Hey there, so many are talking about hin beeing nasty and i just wanted to know do rerolls also count as modifying dice or is modifying only things like using focus, palpatine? Also the evade token is adding an evade result not midifying a die,or?
Omega Leader Question
"Modify" means anything that changes the dice from what they were when they hit the table. Omega Leader prevents you from doing literally anything except just rolling the dice.
Evade tokens I'm not sure on.
Evade tokens count as a dice rolled that came up with an evade result.
Can't change the dice, no focus, no reroll, no nothing. Evade tokens add one evade result. It's like a die with eight success sides on it. Fairly certain spending evade tokens doesn't work either. Hers going to hit with his 2 dice. It's gonna happen. Especially with the highly recommended Crack Shot or Juke.
well then i think evade tokens are usable to to the fact they add a result not modify a result. otherwise it would mean ATC won´t work against Omega Leader
well then i think evade tokens are usable to to the fact they add a result not modify a result. otherwise it would mean ATC won´t work against Omega Leader
ATC doesn't work against Omega Leader. Modify=change. It says you cannot modify your dice results. I would argue adding results is one of many ways to change/modify them.
erm.. nope. adding/subtracting results has nothing to do with "modifying" (which is changing the dice results you already have). it doesn't change dice, it ADDS just. or subtracts.
*citation needed, but quite sure on this*
see accuracy corrector vs dark curse, for example. or atc vs him.
same here. if I'm wrong (could always be!), please enlighten me 
well then i think evade tokens are usable to to the fact they add a result not modify a result. otherwise it would mean ATC won´t work against Omega Leader
ATC doesn't work against Omega Leader. Modify=change. It says you cannot modify your dice results. I would argue adding results is one of many ways to change/modify them.
The ability says you cannot modify any dice. Adding a result is not modifying any of the dice. Therefore it should work.
Pages 4–5 of the X-Wing Rules Reference Guide (summarized):
Attack
1 - Declare Target
2 - Roll Attack Dice
3 - Modify Attack Dice
Includes Focus (spend focus token), Target Lock (spend target lock to reroll), Card Ability (resolve a card ability that modifies attack dice)
4 - Roll Defense Dice
5 - Modify Defense Dice
Includes Focus (spend focus token), Evade (spend evade token), Card Ability (resolve a card ability that modifies defense dice)
6 - Compare Results
7 - Deal Damage
Therefore, under the Modify Attack Dice or Modify Defense Dice steps, you can do nothing other than roll the dice. No focus, no evade, no target lock, no card abilities (such as Accuracy Corrector). Pretty straighforward, and pretty awesome ability.
step 6. add a result.. (atc, acc, evade tokens)
*digging through the faqs later if it really is an issue..* is it?
Edited by WokeUpDeadevade result is modifying dice, as autoblasters now cut right through that
MODIFYING DICE
Players can modify dice by spending focus, evade,
and target lock tokens and by resolving card abilities.
Dice can be modified in the following ways:
•
Add:
To add a die result, place an unused die
displaying the result next to the rolled dice. A die
added in this way is treated as a normal die for
all purposes and can be modified and canceled.
•
Change:
To change a die result, rotate the die
so that its faceup side displays the new result.
•
Reroll:
To reroll a die result, pick up the die and
roll it again.
•
Dice can be modified by multiple effects, but a die
cannot be rerolled more than once.
to my knowledge, the only exception is adding actual/removing dice (ala range bonsuses) such as
- range bonsuses
- cloaking device
- gemmer
- Cobra
- Strom
- opportunist/expose etc.
- Outmanuever/Wedge
Also, dice can still be canceled (else holy **** he'd be overpowered), so things like Wampa, Crackshot and control cannons will still work
so, what does that leave?
- re-rolls
- focus
- auto-thrusters
- evade
- emperor
- Advanced Targeting
- Accuracy Corrector
- sensor jammer
- juke
- r7
- c3po
remember, he is not Dark Curse (Dark Curse is merely no re-rolling and no focus)
yeah, Omega "el presidente" Leader is stupid good
Edited by ficklegreendice
MODIFYING DICEPlayers can modify dice by spending focus, evade,and target lock tokens and by resolving card abilities.Dice can be modified in the following ways:•Add:To add a die result, place an unused diedisplaying the result next to the rolled dice. A dieadded in this way is treated as a normal die forall purposes and can be modified and canceled.•Change:To change a die result, rotate the dieso that its faceup side displays the new result.•Reroll:To reroll a die result, pick up the die androll it again.•Dice can be modified by multiple effects, but a diecannot be rerolled more than once.
This is absolutely correct. Omega Leader disallowes anything with the ADD, CHANGE, or REROLL keywords. Notably, CANCEL is not included in the list of dice modifications. Which means that Crackshot will work against Omega Leader.
yup, was gonna post more or less that now. anyone wondering: it's in the current rules reference, page 13.
the important part is:
"Modifying dice: ..... Add: To add a die result..."
so, adding falls under modifying.
I was convinced it was otherwise (maybe because of dark curse? I don't know. doesn't matter anyway).
that makes this tie-fighter-pilot really good
evade result is modifying dice, as autoblasters now cut right through that
MODIFYING DICE
Players can modify dice by spending focus, evade,
and target lock tokens and by resolving card abilities.
Dice can be modified in the following ways:
•
Add:
To add a die result, place an unused die
displaying the result next to the rolled dice. A die
added in this way is treated as a normal die for
all purposes and can be modified and canceled.
•
Change:
To change a die result, rotate the die
so that its faceup side displays the new result.
•
Reroll:
To reroll a die result, pick up the die and
roll it again.
•
Dice can be modified by multiple effects, but a die
cannot be rerolled more than once.
to my knowledge, the only exception is adding actual/removing dice (ala range bonsuses) such as
- range bonsuses
- cloaking device
- gemmer
- Cobra
- Strom
- opportunist/expose etc.
- Outmanuever/Wedge
Also, dice can still be canceled (else holy **** he'd be overpowered), so things like Wampa, Crackshot and control cannons will still work
so, what does that leave?
- re-rolls
- focus
- auto-thrusters
- evade
- emperor
- Advanced Targeting
- Accuracy Corrector
- sensor jammer
- juke
- r7
- c3po
remember, he is not Dark Curse (Dark Curse is merely no re-rolling and no focus)
yeah, Omega "el presidente" Leader is stupid good
I stand corrected in my interpretation thank you.
My no mods list
No mods (100)
Dark Curse (16)
Zertik Strom (27)
Veteran Instincts (1), TIE/x1 (0), Sensor Jammer (4)
Carnor Jax (31)
Push The Limit (3), Autothrusters (2)
"Omega Leader" (26)
Juke (2), Comms Relay (3)
Strum should be AC + juke
you don't want dead weight
Let's not forget that this ONLY for the ship that Omega Leader has a target lock on. OL will die quickly to focussed fire.
myes
Omega isn't going to carry your list like an ace would, he's a high PS juke FO that also counters action/modifier dependent aces which normally are an absolute pain for Ties to deal with normally
think he's more of a filler for his point range. he won't replace your ace, but he'll be a pain in the butt, think dark curse / backstabber. just a tiny bit beefier, more dangerous and costlier.
(only that now I see some value in him; even soontir (when in arc) is 3/4 naked green dice against against him (which -you- CAN modify 
; not gonna kill him, but makes him think twice if that tie in his back matters or not)).
Sorry if its a dumb question, but when did we decide to call omega leader el presidente?
Strum should be AC + juke
you don't want dead weight
That's a great combo on him. Forces your opponent's higher PS ships to decide whether to shoot at him over more appealing targets to strip his evade or to just let him use Juke to make those two hits more likely to get through.
Sorry if its a dumb question, but when did we decide to call omega leader el presidente?
Yeah no one cc'd that memo.
Sorry if its a dumb question, but when did we decide to call omega leader el presidente?
Yeah no one cc'd that memo.
idk, I wasn't aware of any decision
It's just something I call him (Omega "el presidente" Leader) because he's the coolest **** thing ever
another acceptable moniker is "Big Daddy Dark Curse"
Edited by ficklegreendice
Sorry if its a dumb question, but when did we decide to call omega leader el presidente?
Yeah no one cc'd that memo.
idk, I wasn't aware of any decision
It's just something I call him (Omega "el presidente" Leader) because he's the coolest **** thing ever
another acceptable moniker is "Big Daddy Dark Curse"
No I totally love the name el presidente, I was just wondering how you came up with it
Sorry if its a dumb question, but when did we decide to call omega leader el presidente?
Yeah no one cc'd that memo.
idk, I wasn't aware of any decision
It's just something I call him (Omega "el presidente" Leader) because he's the coolest **** thing ever
another acceptable moniker is "Big Daddy Dark Curse"
No I totally love the name el presidente, I was just wondering how you came up with it
no idea, it was pure instinct and it clicked
might be because his authority trumps the emperor's (can't use emperor on the TLed ship when attacking or being attacked by Omega leader 
)
because 'Murica! (except in spanish, for some reason)
Edited by ficklegreendice