Are torpedo's worth it? I can understand assault rockets vs a swarm, but torpedos?

-One shot

-hard to get re-rolls.

+can roll more attack dice at range 3 without the defensive bonus

Thoughts?

Depends on the torpedo, and I tend to pair them with extra munitions or munitions fail safe.

Right now, they are rarely worth it. Flechette torpedo however is handy. Not for damage, but for the stress. It messes up certain enemies really bad, like interceptors with push the limit, IG88s in any form, and anything else that hates being stressed (Jan Ors for example)

Wave 8 promises to make missiles and torpedoes more worthwhile, but uncertain the future is.

There's also the question of what is carrying these torpedoes? Unique pilots with an Elite slot can take predator which has nice synergy with the proton torpedo.

For me the answer is easy, no. As long as spending points on those secondary weapons, and I would include bombs as well, means spend actions to use them, they does not worth the cost, since most of the good and usual in competitive play upgrades are the ones that grants free actions in several ways, allowing you to have better defense or offense as well as free actions or tokens. As long as secondary weapons needs TL or action to drop a bomb, for me are useless, the only exception is proton rockets since they do not need action to shot them since focus is the usual action and you can decide to use it on defende or on offense, and also hits with 5 die while the Awing only attacks with 2/3 dice, so significantly increases the ship attack for a dangerous one, and I can not say the same for others secondary weapons.

In my opinion, all ordnance is not worth it unless you are using it in very specific circumstances. Those include, and are not limited to:

extra points filler by adding a bomb

Bomber swarm with Jonus and Extra Munitions

Redline with Extra Munitions

Proton Rockets on high Agility ships like Vader and A-Wings

Assault Missiles for specific anti-swarm duty

fun gimmick lists with bomb shenanigans

That is about all I can think of.

There's a few other considerations to torpedoes (both positive and negative).

I feel like outbidding your opponent on PS is an important pre-requisite for using most of the torpedoes: You have to be in the correct range band (which can be quite specific) and you have to (unless you spend extra points on other upgrades) forecast your shot by getting a target lock in the activation phase. The challenge of getting the target lock to line up with the effective range of the torpedo is only that much greater if you have the added difficulty of moving before your intended target.

I've seen torpedoes work reasonably well on specific pilots with well tailored bonuses, or with synergy lists handing out extra actions or focus...

But the fact remains that even in these circumstances, the vast majority of the time you are paying too many points for too little benefit.

So ditch the torpedos and increase the pilot skill or ship count.

So ditch the torpedos and increase the pilot skill or ship count.

Generally speaking, yes.

I don't know. I really love the concept, but outside of plasma torps I've yet to have any luck.

But, plasma on Horton Salm is a great way to strip the shields off a large base or the stealth device (or even whole ship) from an Interceptor.

I don't know. I really love the concept, but outside of plasma torps I've yet to have any luck.

But, plasma on Horton Salm is a great way to strip the shields off a large base or the stealth device (or even whole ship) from an Interceptor.

Try Cluster Missiles on Redline with Fire Control System. She does WORK with Cluster Missiles.

Missiles tend to be more useful than torpedoes, as there are a number of options like homing missiles and proton rockets that don't require an expenditure of tokens to fire. I do like including flechette torpedoes to mess with aces, but other than that I usually leave my torpedo slots blank (or fill them with extra munitions )