Looking at the cards in Imperial Veterans, it looks like they aren't planning to include the older generics for the Defender and the bomber. Am I the only one dismayed by that? I remember when imperial Aces came out with no pilot under ps 4. Yeah it thematically made sense but it limited your builds (had one friend explicitly looking forward to a 5 alpha build and was upset that he couldn't).

Likewise I was glad to see that they had learned their lesson with Rebel Aces. But...Now it seems they have reverted back and I don't like that. I'd love to put two deltas together with the x7 title but... then I'd have to buy *another* defender leaving one of them out in the cold.

Am I the only one bothered this?

Yes you are the only one bothered.

Pick one when it comes to the mixed Aces pack.

One of each of the old generics.

Two copies of a new generic.

We are only going to get 8 pilot cards in the Aces packs. So, something has to give.

Likely not. It still bugs me I'll need 4 copies of the t70 single expansion to get all the copies of Integrated Astromech for my t65 xwings.

It's a shame I won't get to have the lower PS generics for tournament play (I'll print out copies for home play), but when it's all said and done I'd much rather get a completely new generic pilot to play with.

They did the same with imp aces

The assumption is you'll never use a generic defender that isn't the glaive ever again because it'll be super economically priced for ps 6 + ept

The bombers idk why, but you can always get just one Vet pack for a named pilot and then go triple scims

Yeah poor sciimitar and gamma squadrons. Though, as tie shuttles, the scimitar might be pretty awesome.

16 pts for scimitar + 3 for mara jade? Stress all day.

I really like that new tie shuttle card.

As for the Defender generics... Onyx still kinda sucks except for PS bidding TLT, but they do get the evade title. Which plus mk2 engine will severely up their power and mobility.

Likely not. It still bugs me I'll need 4 copies of the t70 single expansion to get all the copies of Integrated Astromech for my t65 xwings.

You're going to fly them at official FFG tournaments? Impressive.

Don't look a gift Defender in the cockpit.

I see generic ships in the pool. Now I may miss the cheap Bombers but if the new generic there is efficient enough I don't know what that problem would. Missing the low PS generic Defenders from the expansion; HORRAY! Do people play the original generics? If the new generic is at all efficient it will easily take over the expansion's pilots.

personally don't think the Scimitar is going anywhere. The Omega is lovely, but it gets expensive really quickly and the Tie Bomber has a frame that's about as sturdy as wet breadsticks

already bid adieu to the Delta and Onyx, though. Juke-meister Glaives are simply far too sexy

Outside of the super cheap triple D list now made better by the TIE/D title, I don't really think the generics will be missed.

The lack of Scimitars/Gammas though kind of sucks. If you run a named in the mix you won't be missing out on too much I imagine, at least until you buy your second Imp Vets box.

So uh

What about "Generic" rings "Veteran" there pal?

Yeah poor sciimitar and gamma squadrons. Though, as tie shuttles, the scimitar might be pretty awesome.

16 pts for scimitar + 3 for mara jade? Stress all day.

I really like that new tie shuttle card.

Imperial Panic Attack

Scimitar + Long-Range Scanners + Tie Shuttle title + Tactician (18 pts)

Scimitar + Long-Range Scanners + Tie Shuttle title + Tactician + Intelligent Agent (19 pts)

Scimitar + Long-Range Scanners + Tie Shuttle title + Tactician + Mara Jade (21 pts)

Colonel Vessery + Tie/D title + Twin Ion Engine MkII + Ion Cannon + Ruthlessness (42 pts)

I think Ruthlessness will be my new favorite EPT for Vessery... Hit with the Cannon, deal one damage to another ship. Hit with the Primary, deal one damage to another ship. You don't even have to target the same ship.

Yeah, that is a nice idea. Especially with Biggs around.

They did the same with imp aces

The assumption is you'll never use a generic defender that isn't the glaive ever again because it'll be super economically priced for ps 6 + ept

The bombers idk why, but you can always get just one Vet pack for a named pilot and then go triple scims

It is a shame really. The only way to get a Full TIE Interceptor squadron is to still pick up 5 TIE interceptor packs.

However in this case I can give it a pass because these are not two of the same ships like Imperial Aces but instead two different ships. Yeah why do the Rebels get all their cannon fodder pilots and Imperials don't when they are the cannon fodder faction (well scum feedback deadmans swarm could also work). But unlike Imperial Aces this set will likely not leave you with extra models you can't field in an 100 point list where Imperial Aces did give you models you can't place all down on the tournament mat.

Likely not. It still bugs me I'll need 4 copies of the t70 single expansion to get all the copies of Integrated Astromech for my t65 xwings.

You're going to fly them at official FFG tournaments? Impressive.

I totally would but honestly it just bugs me to not have enough copies of an upgrade card for the amount of ships I have/will have.

They did the same with imp aces

The assumption is you'll never use a generic defender that isn't the glaive ever again because it'll be super economically priced for ps 6 + ept

The bombers idk why, but you can always get just one Vet pack for a named pilot and then go triple scims

It is a shame really. The only way to get a Full TIE Interceptor squadron is to still pick up 5 TIE interceptor packs.

However in this case I can give it a pass because these are not two of the same ships like Imperial Aces but instead two different ships. Yeah why do the Rebels get all their cannon fodder pilots and Imperials don't when they are the cannon fodder faction (well scum feedback deadmans swarm could also work). But unlike Imperial Aces this set will likely not leave you with extra models you can't field in an 100 point list where Imperial Aces did give you models you can't place all down on the tournament mat.

well see, these guys are elite fodder

Yeah poor sciimitar and gamma squadrons. Though, as tie shuttles, the scimitar might be pretty awesome.

16 pts for scimitar + 3 for mara jade? Stress all day.

I really like that new tie shuttle card.

Imperial Panic Attack

Scimitar + Long-Range Scanners + Tie Shuttle title + Tactician (18 pts)

Scimitar + Long-Range Scanners + Tie Shuttle title + Tactician + Intelligent Agent (19 pts)

Scimitar + Long-Range Scanners + Tie Shuttle title + Tactician + Mara Jade (21 pts)

Colonel Vessery + Tie/D title + Twin Ion Engine MkII + Ion Cannon + Ruthlessness (42 pts)

I think Ruthlessness will be my new favorite EPT for Vessery... Hit with the Cannon, deal one damage to another ship. Hit with the Primary, deal one damage to another ship. You don't even have to target the same ship.

As much as I like that list, sadly Scanners and the shuttle title are mutually exclusive, Scanners needs you to have a missile and torp slot, the shuttle title takes all your missile, torp & bomb slots away.

Likely not. It still bugs me I'll need 4 copies of the t70 single expansion to get all the copies of Integrated Astromech for my t65 xwings.

Unless Rebel Veterans comes with a few copies...

Yeah poor sciimitar and gamma squadrons. Though, as tie shuttles, the scimitar might be pretty awesome.

16 pts for scimitar + 3 for mara jade? Stress all day.

I really like that new tie shuttle card.

Imperial Panic Attack

Scimitar + Long-Range Scanners + Tie Shuttle title + Tactician (18 pts)

Scimitar + Long-Range Scanners + Tie Shuttle title + Tactician + Intelligent Agent (19 pts)

Scimitar + Long-Range Scanners + Tie Shuttle title + Tactician + Mara Jade (21 pts)

Colonel Vessery + Tie/D title + Twin Ion Engine MkII + Ion Cannon + Ruthlessness (42 pts)

I think Ruthlessness will be my new favorite EPT for Vessery... Hit with the Cannon, deal one damage to another ship. Hit with the Primary, deal one damage to another ship. You don't even have to target the same ship.

As much as I like that list, sadly Scanners and the shuttle title are mutually exclusive, Scanners needs you to have a missile and torp slot, the shuttle title takes all your missile, torp & bomb slots away.

Likely not. It still bugs me I'll need 4 copies of the t70 single expansion to get all the copies of Integrated Astromech for my t65 xwings.

Unless Rebel Veterans comes with a few copies...

And it's almost guaranteed it will to go along with the almost guaranteed X/E pairing.

I did have to get 5 blisters of Tie Interceptors without getting an Imperial Aces package because I wanted to try 5 Alpha Squadrons w/ Interceptors. It totally wasn't worth it and I miss some of those cards.

Hoping for promo cards for the bottom-PS pilots in future tournament packs.

That'd be... well, half the problem? Dangit, I want my 33pt PS1 Defenders.

I did have to get 5 blisters of Tie Interceptors without getting an Imperial Aces package because I wanted to try 5 Alpha Squadrons w/ Interceptors. It totally wasn't worth it and I miss some of those cards.

Have you tried them with Autothrusters?