At 19 points you've got a cheaper more maneuverable ride for Vader than the Shuttle.
Only 3 shots max though
Yeah. Might be better to use a shuttle. I can see in some fringe cases where one Vader shot is really good. but meh. I think I'd rather see Mara Jade or Fleet Officer.
At least the two girls get to use the hottub installed in the bomber right?
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I think tactician is the strong play still. 18 points for a tactician boat is unheard of for Imperials and means they can run 36 points for double stress with room for at least 2 aces.
If it's good enough for the Admiral in charge of the Executor, it's good enough for the Emperor in an emergency.Also, they had shields in the EU. FFG just didn't give them any...Under no circumstances will the Emperor be flying without shields. That's for TIE pilots.
I don't remember seeing Ozzel or Piett in any shuttle, much less a TIE.
Poor Captain Needa, on the other hand...
If it's good enough for the Admiral in charge of the Executor, it's good enough for the Emperor in an emergency.Also, they had shields in the EU. FFG just didn't give them any...Under no circumstances will the Emperor be flying without shields. That's for TIE pilots.
I don't remember seeing Ozzel or Piett in any shuttle, much less a TIE.
Poor Captain Needa, on the other hand...
emperor would be broken in this thing
24 points is all you'd have to pay to get him in literally every single list you ever built from that point onward
I don't remember seeing Ozzel or Piett in any shuttle, much less a TIE.
Poor Captain Needa, on the other hand...
Jonus with rebel captive comes to mind. maybe mara. Maybe tactician
emperor would be broken in this thing
24 points is all you'd have to pay to get him in literally every single list you ever built from that point onward
Hey man. They didn't HAVE to give this flying coffin the same number of crew slots as a luxurious white space whale. That was the whole point of making the Emperor take two slots to begin with.
This needs to happen more than ever now:
Agreed with the above. That does need to happen.
Pimperor losts with Palpatine, Mara and Isard.
(Though i'd still take Captive over Mara).
Edited by DariusAPBThis will be such a fun ship to toy around with. Rec spec+Issard would make for a very annoying ship.
emperor would be broken in this thing
24 points is all you'd have to pay to get him in literally every single list you ever built from that point onward
Hey man. They didn't HAVE to give this flying coffin the same number of crew slots as a luxurious white space whale. That was the whole point of making the Emperor take two slots to begin with.
actually, they might've
I'm willing to bet money on the last unspoiled upgrade in Imp Aces being a crew card for the Tie Shuttle
in fact, I'd go so far as to bet it's going to be "Systems Officer"
it's going to give a friendly ship a TL after you complete a green maneuver (like an uber k4)
and it's going to take a seat right next to Fleet Officer
Hey man. They didn't HAVE to give this flying coffin the same number of crew slots as a luxurious white space whale. That was the whole point of making the Emperor take two slots to begin with.emperor would be broken in this thing
24 points is all you'd have to pay to get him in literally every single list you ever built from that point onward
actually, they might've
I'm willing to bet money on the last unspoiled upgrade in Imp Aces being a crew card for the Tie Shuttle
in fact, I'd go so far as to bet it's going to be "Systems Officer"
it's going to give a friendly ship a TL after you complete a green maneuver (like an uber k4)
and it's going to take a seat right next to Fleet Officer
FFG would give the empire some of the Rebels synergy? I would be surprised.
Hey man. They didn't HAVE to give this flying coffin the same number of crew slots as a luxurious white space whale. That was the whole point of making the Emperor take two slots to begin with.emperor would be broken in this thing
24 points is all you'd have to pay to get him in literally every single list you ever built from that point onward
actually, they might've
I'm willing to bet money on the last unspoiled upgrade in Imp Aces being a crew card for the Tie Shuttle
in fact, I'd go so far as to bet it's going to be "Systems Officer"
it's going to give a friendly ship a TL after you complete a green maneuver (like an uber k4)
and it's going to take a seat right next to Fleet Officer
FFG would give the empire some of the Rebels synergy? I would be surprised.
I wouldn't
the Empire already has far superior synergy
Rebel synergy? what, Dutch or Kyle or Garven or Esege? how many of these do you see competitively?
meanwhile, empire: Howlrunner and Palpie
we got the market cornered!
I like this baby with Fleet Officer and Ion Engine, I like it with Tactician, and I like it with Mara Jade.
I like it in the morning, I like it in the evening. This title is fun on a bun.
I like this baby with Fleet Officer and Ion Engine, I like it with Tactician, and I like it with Mara Jade.
I like it in the morning, I like it in the evening. This title is fun on a bun.
I'm with you, my mind is reeling with all the possibilities. This will be one annoying little ship.
Funny thing is, it's even better than I'd hoped. I figured they'd make it one crew slot... instead they make it two crew slots and a price cap.
Given the only two crew they restrict are the ones that wouldn't have been of any use with one crew slot to start with (Gunner isn't fun without tactician, Palpie wouldn't fit anyway)... I'm more than OK with this trade 
Thunderdome
Scimitar Squadron Pilot (16)
Darth Vader (3)
Moff Jerjerrod (2)
Hull Upgrade (3)
TIE Shuttle (0)
Total: 24
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emperor would be broken in this thing
24 points is all you'd have to pay to get him in literally every single list you ever built from that point onward
Hey man. They didn't HAVE to give this flying coffin the same number of crew slots as a luxurious white space whale. That was the whole point of making the Emperor take two slots to begin with.
actually, they might've
I'm willing to bet money on the last unspoiled upgrade in Imp Aces being a crew card for the Tie Shuttle
in fact, I'd go so far as to bet it's going to be "Systems Officer"
it's going to give a friendly ship a TL after you complete a green maneuver (like an uber k4)
and it's going to take a seat right next to Fleet Officer
That might be enough to get Kir Kanos out of retirement.
Kir Kanos with Autothrusters and a Scimitar Shuttle with 2 x 3-point crew and Mk. II Engines comes out to 49 points. Leaves enough room for something like the Inquisitor and a TIE/fo.
Edited by WWHSDThe Shuttle's arc is larger than the Bomber's which makes a considerable difference when trying to Vader.
And beyond the amount of hit points it has to sacrifice, it throws out 3 attack dice versus 2 in a joust.
Doomshuttle is by far the better choice IMO.
The Shuttle's arc is larger than the Bomber's which makes a considerable difference when trying to Vader.
And beyond the amount of hit points it has to sacrifice, it throws out 3 attack dice versus 2 in a joust.
Doomshuttle is by far the better choice IMO.
However flies like a brick compared to the Bomber.
The Shuttle's arc is larger than the Bomber's which makes a considerable difference when trying to Vader.
And beyond the amount of hit points it has to sacrifice, it throws out 3 attack dice versus 2 in a joust.
Doomshuttle is by far the better choice IMO.
However flies like a brick compared to the Bomber.
True - it takes some getting used to, but it's not nearly as bad as it's made out to be. Self-blocks and stop maneuvers can keep it back for a long time.
I do think the key advantage in the TIE Bomber's favour is that K-turn.
If you have it for Vader, it almst doesnt matter what dice it's attached to. It's "shoot me or Soonter/Whisper gets it!", which makes the endgame aces filling the rest of your list happy.
Vader/Jerjerrod Shuttle- two enter, 1 leave. 21 points, 79 left for the rest of the list.
Edit: even if you never have a worthwhle Vader shot, like vs Thug Life, its still 8 health (jerjerrod vader and himself) behind 2 agility.
Edited by RakaydosWhy would you ever want jerjerrod, that crit still remains as a hit. you still die fast.
The only place I can see Vader is if you have 19 points with nothing left to use. Just like the doom shuttle there is no reason to add extra weight to a ship you are going to kill. I don't think I would ever run Vader on a ship that has any other upgrade. I see the shuttle being a lot of fun with stress crews.
Why would you ever want jerjerrod, that crit still remains as a hit. you still die fast.
My mistake. 22 points for 4 shots of vader, with a hull upgrade.
Let's try keeping it cheap and painful:
Scimitar with tactician x3 ... leaving you 46pts for a really nice Whisper, Vessery, or a barebones oicunn...
The naked scimitar is a pretty nice swarm ship, and three or four all rocking tacticians could be the basis for some horrible lists...