Screw the E; we need an X-wing fix and a Y-wing with an EPT. If we inadvertently get something that improves generic E's in the process, that's fine.

Corran in an X, Keyan Farlander in a Y would be nice (with different abilities, of course).

I'm hoping for Rogue Squadron theme, personally.

Not sure why'd they'd reprint Corran when you've got a roster of upwards of 12 named pilots to put in Rogue Squadron Xs. Could definitely see Luke in an E though, maybe Jaina.

Y doesn't really need a fix because TLT, though I would like to see more pilots for them down the road (other Gold Squadron pilots, Leia, Wexler maybe...).

Hoping X/E, with some sort of Astromech that gives the E-Wing a boost. A title/modification wouldn't work because Corran would snap it up, unless it were restricted to below PS8. But an Astromech would require Corran to give up R2-D2.

That said, neither the X-Wing nor the E-Wing need nearly as much help as the Defender and Bomber did.

Not sure why'd they'd reprint Corran when you've got a roster of upwards of 12 named pilots to put in Rogue Squadron Xs.

What about Grizz Frix? As one of the few movie pilots without a card (And the first black pilot not named Lando Calrissian), I'd love to see him.

E-wing is a given, and I don't doubt the devs will do anything to make the X-wing somewhat viable at least.

Y-Wings really don't need much love, but I suppose that's the third most likely option. Can't see the HWK getting a spot. And tne Headhunter is fine.

Rebel Veterans? Scummier Scum? Not to mention the probable Scum Epics... And whatever else Force Awakens may yield. I'm going to need a second job.

My bet would be that it definitely had Y wing, because let's face it, no matter how many turrets they add, it won't help the Y too much. The Y would have to be fixed at it's source, just like the Defender. I am hoping we could see a title for the Y that adds a crew slot, since it can really hold two pilots/crew when you look at facts. There could be other fixes that help the Y wing besides a turret, however, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any turret upgrades at all, I'm just thinking there should be an equal ammount of turret-related upgrades.

I speculate that the new "fix" for the X wing (inter grated astromech) may help the T-65 a little, but we probably won't see the T-65 appearing much more often than before.(just like how the twin ion engine came out from the Punisher to help the Defender, but still wasn't a "fix" for the Defender.)

But then again, who knows?

With the release of the Imp Vetrans pack, I was surprised to see a Bomber with the Defender...

Well I guess we will have to wait and see...

I know! Besides the X-wing, the pack will include the other rebel ship that needs to most help ... the Hawk!

Seems like a lot of responses are focusing on a somewhat binary choice - my hope would be that it's sort of like Most Wanted where, regardless of the new repaints (X / E is arguably most likely although X / Y is arguably going to sell more due to higher recognition value), there will be a bunch of new Y pilots and other fixes not strictly tied to the models in the box.

I too am in the X/E camp. X for more copies of integrated Astro as well as the other half of the xwing fix...Ewing to make pilots not named Corran viable.

The suggezrion to replace rhe torpedo tube with a system makes a nice ReconX, but it still needs somerhinf else, l erhaps a tirle thar reduces the cost of torps by 3 points to a minimum of 0.

That said, neither the X-Wing nor the E-Wing need nearly as much help as the Defender and Bomber did.

Really, I'd have to disagree with you there on the e-wing- The bomber was fine- It had a fantastic jousting profile and still had some maneuverability. And while Extra munitions didn't help most bombers on their own, the Tie Bomber was cheep enough that EM was all it actually needed. Don't get me wrong, getting new uniques and more options is great, but the bomber was actually in a pretty good place, although it did suffer from being a square peg when most people have round holes in their lists at the moment.

The defender... Well, it needed help, certainly, but it also had an unpredictable element to it that allowed skilled players to outfly opponents by using the ship's unique advantages.

The e-wing is just a weird, incredibly expensive x-wing. The generics are horridly overpriced, with Corran and to a lesser extent Etahn getting by on fantastic abilities.

While a new title that computers with BTL-A4 (Longprobe! ) would be nice for Y wings, ask they really need are a few new pilots that have EPTs. The E wing generics need more help than that and the X-Wing... well, once IA is taken into account, it doesn't really need a fix so much as a nudge. Like the B Wing in the first Rebel Aces, it needs more options, more diversity, rather than a straight bump. That said, The fact that they only put one copy of IA in the T-70 pack strongly suggests to me that FFG knows that they will have another opportunity to hand out copies of that card in the near future. So, to me, the most likely combo is X/E.

That said, once IA makes it out, and given that Corran is still monstering his way across the top tables, the fact is that the M3-A is the ship that probably needs the most help in the entire game, followed by the StarViper. To me, a scum aces pack seems more necessary - and therefore more likely in the short term - than a Rebel Veterans pack.

I've heard of the "Rogue Squadron" Rumor (****, these things spread fast)

And I dig it, I want an opportunity to buy a 4th X-Wing, but I doubt it

They got recently an mediocre fix with the new Title and I doubt FFG will release another fix this soon.

I also doubt Ys hard, but I started with the originals that weren't in the Aces Boxes.

it could also be that they'll split it Cannon/Legends, would speak for X/E

Alex Davy said in an interview recently that Integrated Astromech is not "the fix" for T-65s. There isn't a doubt in my mind that the real fix he's talking about is in Rebel Veterans, and there's probably two copies of Integrated Astromech in there as well.

That said, once IA makes it out, and given that Corran is still monstering his way across the top tables, the fact is that the M3-A is the ship that probably needs the most help in the entire game, followed by the StarViper. To me, a scum aces pack seems more necessary - and therefore more likely in the short term - than a Rebel Veterans pack.

Given that Scum could also use a Huge ship (or two to match the others) FFG could do that as well- say the Star Jewel with a Scyk or two, and a Jabba crew card.

E wings and HWK.

Well there will be a 1-2 point fix for the old xwing T-65. Durability of some kind will be added.

Who says it has to be limited to two ships? They could do something like the Most Wanted box and include cards for ships but not provide models. It's not super likely, but it could happen.

T-65 just needs one title or upgrade card to fix. It will be thrown in with aces pack of E-wing and HWK.

Who says it has to be limited to two ships? They could do something like the Most Wanted box and include cards for ships but not provide models. It's not super likely, but it could happen.

It could... But it won't. Most Wanted was a special case, designed to kickstart the Scum faction. Think of it as less an expansion, and more a scum core set, except instead of movement templates and a damage deck you got conversion kits for existing ships.

FFG have a business model wherein the price you pay at the till is, essentially, based on the ship model, but what you're mostly passing for is R&D, playtesting, balancing etc. (as well as marketing and license fees I guess). If FFG add Y-Wing cards to a theoretical X/E Rebel Veterans, then those playtesting and development costs go up, but they can't charge any more for the pack because it only has two miniatures in it (and remember, the casual market will be what they're considering there - they know all of us are going to buy a copy anyway).

Incidentally, I wouldn't be surprised if that's actually the reason why Most Wanted had that second Z-95 in it in the first place. Developing a whole new faction would have been far costlier than any aces pack, but they wouldn't have been able to have the cost of the pack reflect that unless they added a third ship. It probably also explains why we got multiple copies of Twin Ion Engines Mk 2 with the punisher and two TLTs with the K Wing - these were major changes affecting multiple ships beyond the ones they were sold with, I.e. probably costly to develop. Putting them out along with larger minis allows that cost to be recouped while consumers don't mind paying the premium, because they think they're paying for a bigger ship in a bigger packet.

This isn't the first time this has been discussed, and until it's seen probably won't be the last. The E-Wing is so badly maligned that it's needed fixing since conception. I actually think that Wave 4 in it's entirety was pretty badly cocked up considering all the fixes, FAQ's and generally how ignored the ships have been for over a year.

So what will we see? Likely the E-Wing and T-65 X-Wing. The Rebel Y-Wing is a solid ship with nearly constant new options for every wave but just needs pilots to be really draw people in again, but I'm in serious doubt that we really need yet another Y-Wing (plastic) model out there.Though I could arguably say the same for the X-Wing and the TIE/ln.

I'll put my vote down for an X-wing and Y-wing combo. Add a turbolaser turret and call it a "Battle of Yavin" set. Come on FFG, make it happen and take my money!

This isn't the first time this has been discussed, and until it's seen probably won't be the last. The E-Wing is so badly maligned that it's needed fixing since conception. I actually think that Wave 4 in it's entirety was pretty badly cocked up considering all the fixes, FAQ's and generally how ignored the ships have been for over a year.

So what will we see? Likely the E-Wing and T-65 X-Wing. The Rebel Y-Wing is a solid ship with nearly constant new options for every wave but just needs pilots to be really draw people in again, but I'm in serious doubt that we really need yet another Y-Wing (plastic) model out there.Though I could arguably say the same for the X-Wing and the TIE/ln.

What are you talking about there? Wave 4 Had 2 really good ships with the Phantom and Z-95, one bad ship with a really good pilot and one ship that wasn't good enough. In my book that is a 3/4 success rate. I don't think every pilot for every ship needs to be viable. One way to play a ship is enough, anything additional is great. I am really fine with the E-Wing generics not being seen, since Corran is omnipresent. On that basis they don't warrant a fix.

Quite honestly, I would prefer another A-Wing fix to most of this. Beyond the Prototype as a cheap blocker the A is still largely irrelevant, inefficient and not much like it is in the background material.

Still lots of directions to take it... swivel mounted aux arcs guns, some kind of bombing run thing (free SLAM action after using a missile?), tech/system slot mod, or even just some new pilots with abilities that more directly influence damage output (see: Backstabber, N'dru, Wampa, Scourge, etc.)

E-Wing would still be good news, though.

Can anyone provide a link to the alex davy interview where he says integrated astromech is not the intended fix/boost for the t-65?

The E wing and Defender were sort of out of business with the latest expansions. The Defender is in the Veterans pack and I do expect the E wing to follow suit.

There are more T-65 pilots available and less y wing pilots.

However, y wing is doing great in tournaments, the T-65 Xwing does not and seems to be used less and less. Als because people turn to the newer T-70.

Which reason will sway ffg to put a ship in the veterans pack?

- The need for more pilots? Or,

- The need for viability?

Of course I have voiced my preference many times:

Corsec Green C wing, with Corran Horn and Whistler!

And while we are at it add Tycho, Mynock, Tonin, Pethotel, Myn Donos, Targeting astromech, integrated astromech, generic R2's and R5's and many others

Why can't people just see that a simple E+E Veteran pack is logical and possible?
Nobody used to ***** about aces being Ceptor+Ceptor while rebels got a ton of A-wing and B-wing goodies

I guess HWK-290 and Z-95.

HWK-290 is obvious. mobility of a shuttle, defense of an X-Wing, single die for offense? It needs help.

Z-95 is only good for swarming or filling up 12 spare points right now right? Maybe they'll give it something to make using it fully outfitted a viable option?

I suppose E-Wing would be a possibility too but I really doubt we'll see an X-Wing. We're already getting T-70 X-Wings as well as X-Wings in both core sets, singles, and with the transport. That's a lot of X-Wings!

Frankly I think A-Wings need more help but since they already helped them once I won't hold my breath.