Seriously, nothing?

By Orjo Creld, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

I cannot believe FFG has no Episode 7 tie-in coming this month. Maybe Rancor publishing group will step up like it did for its excellent Rebels sourcebook. WOTC used to be all over the prequels. Come on FFG

What if they do have something ready, but it's a super-secret surprise? Wouldn't you feel a little silly?

I really doubt they do, however.

I just don't think it's feasible.

I would imagine the House of the Mouse wanted to limit how much story stuff they let out prior to TFA's release.

FFG has been pushing announcements of the current game line pretty hard, so I would imagine that's a bit of clearing the decks.

I wouldn't worry too much, once this movie is released I have no doubt FFG will have a book or two related.

Maybe they don't have enough info to do the book as they are being kept in the dark? The only thing they have info on is a few new planets, possible upgrades to a few ships, the Resistance and the First Order are names only with no background, a new style of lightsaber. This all seems rather slim for a new book, so until the movie comes out and they have enough info, I'd say a book isn't worth it at this point. Before you shout out that they should have all the info on the movie, take a step back and relieze that one of the biggest movie reveals ever came out in Empire Strikes Back, where only like 3 peaple knew about Vader and Luke and Mark Hamil wasn't one of them.

I believe that they have x-wing products relating to the new film,but to be honest I can't see an rpg supplement being viable either. The game is based during the civil war period so this would fall in the same category as the Mandelorian sourcebook being discussed in this forum (fine for a fan book but not likely to be an official book).

They don't have any books dedicated to The Republic era, or specifically to any of the movies, so I'm not sure why they would put one out for the new timeframe either.

If you want to play in the new era just reskin some ships or equipment and call it good.

I cannot believe FFG has no Episode 7 tie-in coming this month. Maybe Rancor publishing group will step up like it did for its excellent Rebels sourcebook. WOTC used to be all over the prequels. Come on FFG

What is it that you would like to see in an Ep VII sourcebook? I don't really see much that could fill up an entire book. Some new races, some equipment fluff, and a few planets, but that's not really enough for a whole new book. Like others said, reskinning things is going to be the best route, just like everyone does for Clone Wars erra or Old Republic era games.

I wouldn't mind them eventually putting out a book for the new era, and the old era, and the really old era.

All long term though. In the short term I'd much rather they get teh Splat books out for the assorted careers, and a few more settings and modules for the Civil War Era. Let 's get the source material all filled out for the one era before we start tackling another.

What could they advertise?

"In this new book, we explore all the stuff we're not allowed to disclose! See undisclosed people do undisclosed things to undisclosed enemies on undisclosed planets with undisclosed nouns... all for an undisclosed price!"

There's no doubt it would sell. In fact, considering so many people are setting their games in other times than the published setting, it's logical to conclude that there's a strong desire for products detailing these times. I would not be surprised by an Episode VII setting book... nor would my wallet. I'm reserving the funds now....

I kinda suspect FFG just plain doesn't have the info yet. To put together what you'd need for sourcebook you'd essentially have to watch the whole film, probably at least a few times (once to watch it, a second to take notes, and a third to make sure you saw what you thought you saw). Without knowing all the details of all the locations, factions, events, characters, historical updates, finalized artwork, and so on, writing a sourcebook would be impossible. It's unlikely LFL was willing to share that quantity of detail with one single group prior to release.

Remember, LFL is even issuing DCMA takedowns of photos people took after buying a new action figure before it was scheduled for release. If that's how they feel about an action figure Spoiler, what do you think they'd do if the sourcebook landed early and essentially disclosed the entire film....

I'm assuming once the movie is released a few general Star Wars movie guides will soon follow. And that should have all the background information they need to write a sourcebook. But not before that apparently.

I cannot believe FFG has no Episode 7 tie-in coming this month. Maybe Rancor publishing group will step up like it did for its excellent Rebels sourcebook. WOTC used to be all over the prequels. Come on FFG

What is it that you would like to see in an Ep VII sourcebook? I don't really see much that could fill up an entire book. Some new races, some equipment fluff, and a few planets, but that's not really enough for a whole new book. Like others said, reskinning things is going to be the best route, just like everyone does for Clone Wars erra or Old Republic era games.

Planets they go to, new gear, history and details of the Resistance and the First Order, some new ships, and some modular encounters. Sounds like pretty much every other sourcebook to me.

I cannot believe FFG has no Episode 7 tie-in coming this month. Maybe Rancor publishing group will step up like it did for its excellent Rebels sourcebook. WOTC used to be all over the prequels. Come on FFG

What is it that you would like to see in an Ep VII sourcebook? I don't really see much that could fill up an entire book. Some new races, some equipment fluff, and a few planets, but that's not really enough for a whole new book. Like others said, reskinning things is going to be the best route, just like everyone does for Clone Wars erra or Old Republic era games.

Planets they go to, new gear, history and details of the Resistance and the First Order, some new ships, and some modular encounters. Sounds like pretty much every other sourcebook to me.

After the movie comes out I can see that happening, but until then...

I cannot believe FFG has no Episode 7 tie-in coming this month. Maybe Rancor publishing group will step up like it did for its excellent Rebels sourcebook. WOTC used to be all over the prequels. Come on FFG

Thanks for the kind words re RPG :)

I can confirm that we have other stuff well in progress, but it's continuing on from the Rebels sourcebook (a "beginner" style adventure + follow-up). Given that anything we did for TFA would be 99.9% pure invention at this point, it's be out of date faster than our post-Season 1 speculation on Rebels! ;)

We did hope to have our next project ready for release to coincide (but not related to) the new movie, but a few key people have been unavoidably more busy with other more mundane, but I suppose more essential work. But it's still scheduled for "Soon" :)

Before you shout out that they should have all the info on the movie, take a step back and relieze that one of the biggest movie reveals ever came out in Empire Strikes Back, where only like 3 peaple knew about Vader and Luke and Mark Hamil wasn't one of them.

That's not true.

Precisely 4 people knew the Vader reveal before it hit theaters. George Lucas, who had written it in however long ago, Irvin Kershner who directed Episode V, and Mark Hammil, whom Irvin told shortly before shooting that scene.

That's why his delivery of the reaction seems to fit so well. David Prowse delivered the "Obi-Wan killed your father" line and was genuinely confused about Mark's reaction, thinking it was a horrible over-reaction to the line.

Then James Earl Jones was told before a private recording session. Because it would be weird if the voice of Vader didn't deliver the line, right? lol

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I cannot believe FFG has no Episode 7 tie-in coming this month. Maybe Rancor publishing group will step up like it did for its excellent Rebels sourcebook. WOTC used to be all over the prequels. Come on FFG

They have X Wing stuff. But they have stated before that they aren't given advance information on Ep VII stuff. Soooooooo unless you want them to just make up a bunch of stuff and slap an label on it we will have to wait till after they've seen the movie (this Friday) before we can expect anything.

But that's not a bad thing. It's December, they've had about 3 to 5 books drop since November and people are spending money on Christmas stuff. So not having a new book to buy in addition to other stuff is a win in my book.

What have they done that ties directly to any movie as yet? Other than centering the system around the time of the Original Trilogy no book has directly tied to anything close to one particular source. They borrow from every medium where it will help them. Anything from the movie(s), such as races, equipment, vehicles, planets, etc. will be more likely to show up in books here and there. Not one "movie" sourcebook. There is a reason we haven't heard word one about a Rebels sourcebook because it doesn't fit their methodology. They'll throw stuff in here and there where it suits.

Before you shout out that they should have all the info on the movie, take a step back and relieze that one of the biggest movie reveals ever came out in Empire Strikes Back, where only like 3 peaple knew about Vader and Luke and Mark Hamil wasn't one of them.

That's not true.

Precisely 4 people knew the Vader reveal before it hit theaters. George Lucas, who had written it in however long ago, Irvin Kershner who directed Episode V, and Mark Hammil, whom Irvin told shortly before shooting that scene.

That's why his delivery of the reaction seems to fit so well. David Prowse delivered the "Obi-Wan killed your father" line and was genuinely confused about Mark's reaction, thinking it was a horrible over-reaction to the line.

Then James Earl Jones was told before a private recording session. Because it would be weird if the voice of Vader didn't deliver the line, right? lol

The Point I was making is still there, Hammil was told right before shooting and was the last to know.

"In this new book, we explore all the stuff we're not allowed to disclose! See undisclosed people do undisclosed things to undisclosed enemies on undisclosed planets with undisclosed nouns... all for an undisclosed price!"

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Before you shout out that they should have all the info on the movie, take a step back and relieze that one of the biggest movie reveals ever came out in Empire Strikes Back, where only like 3 peaple knew about Vader and Luke and Mark Hamil wasn't one of them.

That's not true.

Precisely 4 people knew the Vader reveal before it hit theaters. George Lucas, who had written it in however long ago, Irvin Kershner who directed Episode V, and Mark Hammil, whom Irvin told shortly before shooting that scene.

That's why his delivery of the reaction seems to fit so well. David Prowse delivered the "Obi-Wan killed your father" line and was genuinely confused about Mark's reaction, thinking it was a horrible over-reaction to the line.

Then James Earl Jones was told before a private recording session. Because it would be weird if the voice of Vader didn't deliver the line, right? lol

I think I read somewhere that they told some of the cast the line would be "you killed your own father" and that the next movie would be about time travel. Don't really believe that, but it's a hiliarious rumour.

Before you shout out that they should have all the info on the movie, take a step back and relieze that one of the biggest movie reveals ever came out in Empire Strikes Back, where only like 3 peaple knew about Vader and Luke and Mark Hamil wasn't one of them.

That's not true.

Precisely 4 people knew the Vader reveal before it hit theaters. George Lucas, who had written it in however long ago, Irvin Kershner who directed Episode V, and Mark Hammil, whom Irvin told shortly before shooting that scene.

That's why his delivery of the reaction seems to fit so well. David Prowse delivered the "Obi-Wan killed your father" line and was genuinely confused about Mark's reaction, thinking it was a horrible over-reaction to the line.

Then James Earl Jones was told before a private recording session. Because it would be weird if the voice of Vader didn't deliver the line, right? lol

The Point I was making is still there, Hammil was told right before shooting and was the last to know.

Not that he was the last to know.

Which is also untrue. He was second to last. :3

But your other point does stand. The House of Mouse isn't going to reveal their hand too soon. As I understand, there's a lot of fairly substantial reveals in this movie, especially considering that it is only the first of a new trilogy. Even IF FFG knows, they aren't going to give a hint that they do. That's a pretty heavy license they have there, with everything Star Wars that they do, and doing anything to risk losing the license (either effective immediately or when it comes time to renew) is not something I think anyone there would ever consider.

I'd like to think they love what they do too much.

And that's a pretty big IF to consider. Most likely, they know nothing more than we do. They're probably sitting on their thumbs as anxious as we, hoping that this movie doesn't tank as hard as Episode 1 did. FFG has a lot to lose if Disney blows it, and investing anything into a book for the new trilogy would be for naught if it crashes.

They're probably sitting on their thumbs as anxious as we, hoping that this movie doesn't tank as hard as Episode 1 did. FFG has a lot to lose if Disney blows it, and investing anything into a book for the new trilogy would be for naught if it crashes.

I think Disney would love for it to "Tank" at the Box Office like Episode One did. How TFA performs Critically and most importantly how the Fans react to it are where the Mouse/LucasFilm have their Focus. They know that the better they do there will make or break the Box Office and their chance to take on Avatar for the Record.

As for FFG, they are not anxious about TFA's Performance at the Box Office, but if they are anxious it is about when they can really develop the content from TFA.

To be honest I would think they have some hints on what is coming, not necessarily TFA, but in Star Wars Cannon in general.

They're probably sitting on their thumbs as anxious as we, hoping that this movie doesn't tank as hard as Episode 1 did. FFG has a lot to lose if Disney blows it, and investing anything into a book for the new trilogy would be for naught if it crashes.

I think Disney would love for it to "Tank" at the Box Office like Episode One did. How TFA performs Critically and most importantly how the Fans react to it are where the Mouse/LucasFilm have their Focus. They know that the better they do there will make or break the Box Office and their chance to take on Avatar for the Record.

As for FFG, they are not anxious about TFA's Performance at the Box Office, but if they are anxious it is about when they can really develop the content from TFA.

To be honest I would think they have some hints on what is coming, not necessarily TFA, but in Star Wars Cannon in general.

I didn't say the movie didn't make a lot of money.

I'm saying the prequels upset a lot of fans, and the sequels following suit will not show well for growth in this market.

People will give 0 ***** about getting into new star wars things when they can be disappointed by the movies

I'm sure FFG's RPG wing would rather complete all the source and career books for the Edge of the Empire and Age of Rebellion AND Force & Destiny lines before they go full speed ahead into other timeframes and alt campaigns.

There's something to be said about finishing the candy bar you're eating before you start unwrapping another one.

They're probably sitting on their thumbs as anxious as we, hoping that this movie doesn't tank as hard as Episode 1 did. FFG has a lot to lose if Disney blows it, and investing anything into a book for the new trilogy would be for naught if it crashes.

I think Disney would love for it to "Tank" at the Box Office like Episode One did. How TFA performs Critically and most importantly how the Fans react to it are where the Mouse/LucasFilm have their Focus. They know that the better they do there will make or break the Box Office and their chance to take on Avatar for the Record.

As for FFG, they are not anxious about TFA's Performance at the Box Office, but if they are anxious it is about when they can really develop the content from TFA.

To be honest I would think they have some hints on what is coming, not necessarily TFA, but in Star Wars Cannon in general.

I didn't say box office.

I didn't say the movie didn't make a lot of money.

I'm saying the prequels upset a lot of fans, and the sequels following suit will not show well for growth in this market.

People will give 0 ***** about getting into new star wars things when they can be disappointed by the movies

Actually you implied Box Office, cause normally when you refer that a movie Tanks it means that the movie failed at the Box Office. Of course Tank could mean a Critical Failure or how it let down fans, but you did differentiate. So yeah I called you out. Critically, TPM is not terrible but not great. When it comes to Fans it really is split. It is hated by some, like by others. Loved by a few and most just enjoy it for what it is.

As for people getting new Star Wars things because the new movies are disappointing.. Of Course people will. Star Wars is much bigger than TFA or the Prequels. Did TPM cause people to stop buying anything Star Wars, Of Course Not! Star Wars is hugely popular without TFA, regardless of what you think of the Prequels. TFA didn't create that, it is just another part of what Star Wars is a whole now.

If you are one of those people that in the end TFA is disappointing you in some way that you will not buy anything else Star Wars. Just give away your Star Wars stuff now cause you will find something in the Movie to be Disappointed with.