Maybe I should add V-19 TORRENT to my immediate list of wants. It's not in the prequels and I don't hear anyone hating on it particularly but I wants it! It reminds me a bit of my beloved GUNBOAT, folding wings and all.
This is the ship I most want a toy of in this game.
The Lego model of it is awesome.
This is the ship I most want a toy of in this game.The Lego model of it is awesome.Maybe I should add V-19 TORRENT to my immediate list of wants. It's not in the prequels and I don't hear anyone hating on it particularly but I wants it! It reminds me a bit of my beloved GUNBOAT, folding wings and all.
I know, it's such a solid build and feels like a slightly scaled down UCS set.
TORRENT
Oh man the V-19 Torret is so badass.
is there a link to this teaser anywhere?
It's a galaxy with hundreds of thousands of civilized worlds.
Do people really, honestly believe that everything should follow the same aesthetic?
Not at all. I actually think the N-1 design is fine. Naboo having a fluid ship design is a neat trait that gets more hate than it deserves certainly. The issue was mostly that they weren't what anyone expected, which isn't an inherently bad thing, but it makes people defensive. Had they gone on to star in an exciting, memorable space battle, they'd probably be as loved as the Y-Wing at least, but instead people's already negative impression of them is reinforced by the auto pilot battle where spinning is a good trick. The most negative thing about the ship is what people associate with it.
What on earth does time have to do with whether you hate the prequels or not? They were terrible movies a decade ago and they remain terrible movies today just as they will be terrible movies in a hundred years.
I believe the implication is not that they get less bad. Just that people should get the **** over it.
the first true canon appearance of The Hound's Tooth, was prequel era.
Lo and behold... Here it is. In XWMG.
Actually, the first true canon appearance of the Hound's Tooth was in Tales of the Bounty Hunters, published in 1996. It was considered canon back then, since it was in a published work, and it's considered an OT-era ship even if it appeared in TCW, because Bossk was introduced in the OT. The same can't be said of the N-1, the ARC-170, V-wing, etc. because they are exclusive to the prequel era. Also, the Z-95 in the Clone Wars wasn't the same ship as seen in the XWMG. It's a much older ship that is, frankly, uglier than the original design that was based off X-wing concept art.
You can see now the N-1 in The Return of the Jedi:
I'm sorry, but it's the only image I found of them.
That's the 2005 DVD version of RotJ, not the 1997 Special Edition. As I said, you can't say that the N-1 originated in the original trilogy, because it originated in Episode I. Talk about a stretch...
It's a galaxy with hundreds of thousands of civilized worlds.
Do people really, honestly believe that everything should follow the same aesthetic?
Not at all. I actually think the N-1 design is fine. Naboo having a fluid ship design is a neat trait that gets more hate than it deserves certainly. The issue was mostly that they weren't what anyone expected, which isn't an inherently bad thing, but it makes people defensive. Had they gone on to star in an exciting, memorable space battle, they'd probably be as loved as the Y-Wing at least, but instead people's already negative impression of them is reinforced by the auto pilot battle where spinning is a good trick. The most negative thing about the ship is what people associate with it.
Tell me about it... that is such a beautiful ship. I would love to have that full-size version they used in the movies, just so I can sit in her.
It's a galaxy with hundreds of thousands of civilized worlds.
Do people really, honestly believe that everything should follow the same aesthetic?
Not at all. I actually think the N-1 design is fine. Naboo having a fluid ship design is a neat trait that gets more hate than it deserves certainly. The issue was mostly that they weren't what anyone expected, which isn't an inherently bad thing, but it makes people defensive. Had they gone on to star in an exciting, memorable space battle, they'd probably be as loved as the Y-Wing at least, but instead people's already negative impression of them is reinforced by the auto pilot battle where spinning is a good trick. The most negative thing about the ship is what people associate with it.
Which is damned unfortunate, since the N1 is a **** fine ship at that.
What on earth does time have to do with whether you hate the prequels or not? They were terrible movies a decade ago and they remain terrible movies today just as they will be terrible movies in a hundred years.
I believe the implication is not that they get less bad. Just that people should get the **** over it.
Exactly what I was trying to say..! THANK you..!
That's the 2005 DVD version of RotJ, not the 1997 Special Edition. As I said, you can't say that the N-1 originated in the original trilogy, because it originated in Episode I. Talk about a stretch...
I don't think he was saying that it originated in the original trilogy.
He's saying that the ship has appeared in the GCW era. And is therefor fair game for XWM.
Doug Chiang did great work on the Star Wars films. It surpasses most EU design work I see in my various SW guides.
What I consistently see is that people judge the ships by whether they 'look good' rather than if they are good designs. These are two different thing, and ultimately the second is more important.
That Naboo fighter also suffered hugely from all the grievances people have from The Phantom Menace being so CGI-y - what with it being so clean and shiny. Plus I can't think of it without hearing young Anakin's voice screaming in my head. 
It's a galaxy with hundreds of thousands of civilized worlds.
Do people really, honestly believe that everything should follow the same aesthetic?
Not at all. I actually think the N-1 design is fine. Naboo having a fluid ship design is a neat trait that gets more hate than it deserves certainly. The issue was mostly that they weren't what anyone expected, which isn't an inherently bad thing, but it makes people defensive. Had they gone on to star in an exciting, memorable space battle, they'd probably be as loved as the Y-Wing at least, but instead people's already negative impression of them is reinforced by the auto pilot battle where spinning is a good trick. The most negative thing about the ship is what people associate with it.
Tell me about it... that is such a beautiful ship. I would love to have that full-size version they used in the movies, just so I can sit in her.
They used to have a 1/1 scale model hanging from the ceiling at the Boston Science Museum. wonder if it's still there.....
S'been 15 years, you know. Since The Phantom Menace. We're less than a week away from a brand new era of Star Wars. Y'think maybe, just... Maybe, it's time to let go of the hatred?
If your a true Star Wars fan you accept Episode 1-2 and 3 for what they are, another Star Wars story put on film for us. Good or bad I'd rather have as many stories as possible on film to watch this saga we all have grown to love. Otherwise it's like your just a bandwagon Star Wars fan.
Let's say Disney makes 40 more Star Wars movies in my lifetime. Yes some will be garbage some will ok but then there will be a handful that are as enjoyable or as epic to watch as the original trilogy.
Please, don't use a no true Scotsman fallacy:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
You can be a "true" Star Wars fan and like or dislike whatever you please. No one has the right to dictate what others do or do not enjoy.
The Star Wars fan base is as large and diverse as the Star Wars Galaxy. Everybody should be able to enjoy it the way it makes them happy. If that includes exorcizing less popular elements from their headspace, then so be it.
Quoted because it was worth having it plastered on every movie theater billboard this week. #letgoofyouranger
Edit: don't know why quote tags aren't working for me lately. Sorry.
Edited by ForceSensitiveDoug Chiang did great work on the Star Wars films. It surpasses most EU design work I see in my various SW guides.
What I consistently see is that people judge the ships by whether they 'look good' rather than if they are good designs. These are two different thing, and ultimately the second is more important.
Well, the N-1 doesn't have a functional design either, but like most things wrong with the prequels, that too is GL's fault.
Doug Chiang did great work on the Star Wars films. It surpasses most EU design work I see in my various SW guides.
What I consistently see is that people judge the ships by whether they 'look good' rather than if they are good designs. These are two different thing, and ultimately the second is more important.
Well, the N-1 doesn't have a functional design either, but like most things wrong with the prequels, that too is GL's fault.
perfect example, the Astromech slot. 
Doug Chiang did great work on the Star Wars films. It surpasses most EU design work I see in my various SW guides.
What I consistently see is that people judge the ships by whether they 'look good' rather than if they are good designs. These are two different thing, and ultimately the second is more important.
Well, the N-1 doesn't have a functional design either, but like most things wrong with the prequels, that too is GL's fault.
Doug Chiang did great work on the Star Wars films. It surpasses most EU design work I see in my various SW guides.
What I consistently see is that people judge the ships by whether they 'look good' rather than if they are good designs. These are two different thing, and ultimately the second is more important.
Well, the N-1 doesn't have a functional design either, but like most things wrong with the prequels, that too is GL's fault.
perfect example, the Astromech slot.
But there's nothing wrong with the astromech slot. It just pulls the innards out of the chassis.
That's hardly a crazy thing.I mean you can't really think that, as modular and multi-purpose as Astromechs are, that they SERIOUSLY can't just... Pop out of the case a bit?
Because as with all similarly made machines, the real frame is under the plating. It's never been a stretch for me, I don't get why everybody else thinks its so ridiculous.
Eta-2, V-wing and ARC-170 show up in imperial colors I multiple OT stories and media and everyone goes crazy.
Slave 1 is all over AoTC and no one bats an eye.
Prequel hat(t)er: "Wanna know how I got these scars?"
If your a true Star Wars fan you accept Episode 1-2 and 3 for what they are, another Star Wars story put on film for us. Good or bad I'd rather have as many stories as possible on film to watch this saga we all have grown to love. Otherwise it's like your just a bandwagon Star Wars fan.S'been 15 years, you know. Since The Phantom Menace. We're less than a week away from a brand new era of Star Wars. Y'think maybe, just... Maybe, it's time to let go of the hatred?
Let's say Disney makes 40 more Star Wars movies in my lifetime. Yes some will be garbage some will ok but then there will be a handful that are as enjoyable or as epic to watch as the original trilogy.
Please, don't use a no true Scotsman fallacy:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
You can be a "true" Star Wars fan and like or dislike whatever you please. No one has the right to dictate what others do or do not enjoy.
The Star Wars fan base is as large and diverse as the Star Wars Galaxy. Everybody should be able to enjoy it the way it makes them happy. If that includes exorcizing less popular elements from their headspace, then so be it.
Quoted because it was worth having it plastered on every movie theater billboard this week. #letgoofyouranger
Edit: don't know why quote tags aren't working for me lately. Sorry.
All I saw was '#let goof you ranger'
Edited by GrimmyVIf your a true Star Wars fan you accept Episode 1-2 and 3 for what they are, another Star Wars story put on film for us. Good or bad I'd rather have as many stories as possible on film to watch this saga we all have grown to love. Otherwise it's like your just a bandwagon Star Wars fan.S'been 15 years, you know. Since The Phantom Menace. We're less than a week away from a brand new era of Star Wars. Y'think maybe, just... Maybe, it's time to let go of the hatred?
Let's say Disney makes 40 more Star Wars movies in my lifetime. Yes some will be garbage some will ok but then there will be a handful that are as enjoyable or as epic to watch as the original trilogy.
Please, don't use a no true Scotsman fallacy:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
You can be a "true" Star Wars fan and like or dislike whatever you please. No one has the right to dictate what others do or do not enjoy.
The Star Wars fan base is as large and diverse as the Star Wars Galaxy. Everybody should be able to enjoy it the way it makes them happy. If that includes exorcizing less popular elements from their headspace, then so be it.
Quoted because it was worth having it plastered on every movie theater billboard this week. #letgoofyouranger
Edit: don't know why quote tags aren't working for me lately. Sorry.
All I saw was '#let goof you ranger'
#EmbraceThePrequels #LetGoOfYourAnger
What on earth does time have to do with whether you hate the prequels or not? They were terrible movies a decade ago and they remain terrible movies today just as they will be terrible movies in a hundred years.
I believe the implication is not that they get less bad. Just that people should get the **** over it.
Get over what? I don't understand this at all. How can you 'Get over' something being a bad movie? Are you suggesting that people should refrain from disliking something just because it's been out awhile? How long exactly should it be before we "get over" the horror that was Vanilla Ice for instance?
edit: I secretly liked the ninja rap... Don't tell anyone. Go ninja, go ninja, go!
Edited by stabbald
That's the 2005 DVD version of RotJ, not the 1997 Special Edition. As I said, you can't say that the N-1 originated in the original trilogy, because it originated in Episode I. Talk about a stretch...
I don't think he was saying that it originated in the original trilogy.
He's saying that the ship has appeared in the GCW era. And is therefor fair game for XWM.
Yes, but the point I was originally making was that you can't put something in the original trilogy era and call it an original trilogy ship in order to justify having it in a game that is dedicated only to the original trilogy era.
Doug Chiang did great work on the Star Wars films. It surpasses most EU design work I see in my various SW guides.
What I consistently see is that people judge the ships by whether they 'look good' rather than if they are good designs. These are two different thing, and ultimately the second is more important.
Well, the N-1 doesn't have a functional design either, but like most things wrong with the prequels, that too is GL's fault.
perfect example, the Astromech slot.
But there's nothing wrong with the astromech slot. It just pulls the innards out of the chassis.
That's hardly a crazy thing.I mean you can't really think that, as modular and multi-purpose as Astromechs are, that they SERIOUSLY can't just... Pop out of the case a bit?
Because as with all similarly made machines, the real frame is under the plating. It's never been a stretch for me, I don't get why everybody else thinks its so ridiculous.
There is a LOT wrong with the astromech slot in the N-1. R-2 supposedly pulls in his shoulders a bit to fit, but geometrically this is still a completely impossible fit. It's not a matter of his head telescoping; it's that his body is physically incapable of fitting in the space allotted to it. Doug Chiang originally made the droid socket wide enough to accommodate the legs, but George Lucas didn't like it and insisted the socket be exactly the same diameter as the head top to bottom... At least they were able to get away with putting a lip around it.
The Millennium Falcon has a similar problem with its deckplan, but at least it has the excuse of being rushed into design and production for the first film.
