Where do you Needa?

By Norsehound, in Star Wars: Armada

Building lists recently and thinking about defensive things to do with Raiders to keep them from instantly dying. Since Montferrat is driving one, the thought occurred to me to put Needa on the other one. "To replace the brace."

"Why would you ever want to replace Brace?"

"Because in a universe of accuracy and Home One, you'll never get to use that Brace token."

It also gave me the idea of putting Needa on a Victory Star Destroyer.... to replace the brace token you'll never get to use there, either.

Has anyone else used Needa? I know ISDs take him (replacing contain) to fire Turbolaser Reroute circuits, but where else have you used him and to what effect?

Makes no sense.

You NEED that brace to live

What makes you think that the evade will be targeted less than the brace? I wouldn't replace it, you already have two evades.

Makes no sense.

You NEED that brace to live

Even if you never get to use it?

Seriously, VSDs are hosed right now because any amount of accuracy and they never get to use it. With Home one on the table in a gun line, unless you can break a ship away from it, that ship will always accuracy away your brace. Merhf.

What makes you think that the evade will be targeted less than the brace? I wouldn't replace it, you already have two evades.

I was just wondering if three evades was one of those things that everyone scoffs at but could be great to use. especially, as I see it, with the rebellion having accuracy out the eyes now. The only other way I can see it being useful is if you're defending against any two-dice bomber... and they probably have friends.

I gotta wanta Fanta,

But I reala need a Needa.

Goofiness aside, I roll it on my ISD. Long range protection (or a competing accuracy target with Brace), and I just don't want that Contain.

I don't think I could replace a Brace. Not every opponent runs Home One, not every ship is another ship friendly to Home One, and not every roll generates accuracy.

Try it out though, if it works that would be pretty cool.

Makes no sense.

You NEED that brace to live

Even if you never get to use it?

Seriously, VSDs are hosed right now because any amount of accuracy and they never get to use it. With Home one on the table in a gun line, unless you can break a ship away from it, that ship will always accuracy away your brace. Merhf.

What makes you think that the evade will be targeted less than the brace? I wouldn't replace it, you already have two evades.

I was just wondering if three evades was one of those things that everyone scoffs at but could be great to use. especially, as I see it, with the rebellion having accuracy out the eyes now. The only other way I can see it being useful is if you're defending against any two-dice bomber... and they probably have friends.

If you're up against bombers, much better to have a brace than a evade. I just see more situations where a brace would be useful than ones where it'd be handy to have a third evade. If Raiders came with a turbolaser slot for TRCs, might be a different story.

I Needa catch my breath!

I like Needa on VSD's because I can turn it's defense tokens into a replica of the GSD.

Since there is only one of him I put him on my ISD.

The contain token is damned near useless with all the critical upgrades running around (looking at you APTs). If I could, I would toss the MC80's contain in the dumpster and rock Needa every chance I got. Sadly, they gave it to you damned Imperials.

I suffer the "no defense token" syndrome and I understand your point but three evades make no sense. If he get 1 2 or 3 accuracy having 3 evades doesn't change anything and if there isn't an accuracy you will love the brace.

The VSD is different and I ask myself the same but not with brace!!!

Redundant Redirect on a VSD at the moment... I find with me, its mostly XI-7s that are lettering people punch through the shields of my ISD to lay 1 or 2 damage on the Hull at a time, so I'm able to use Contain to restrict that to a Face Down, instead of a Face Up... So I'm loving my Contain.

Building lists recently and thinking about defensive things to do with Raiders to keep them from instantly dying. Since Montferrat is driving one, the thought occurred to me to put Needa on the other one. "To replace the brace."

"Why would you ever want to replace Brace?"

"Because in a universe of accuracy and Home One, you'll never get to use that Brace token."

It also gave me the idea of putting Needa on a Victory Star Destroyer.... to replace the brace token you'll never get to use there, either.

Has anyone else used Needa? I know ISDs take him (replacing contain) to fire Turbolaser Reroute circuits, but where else have you used him and to what effect?

I'm not sure you should replace your best token so that you can triple down on evades. I mean, maybe if you could spend more than one per attack.

I mean, if you make your second best token your best token, they'll just universally lock it down instead and you get exactly nowhere.

The contain token is damned near useless with all the critical upgrades running around (looking at you APTs). If I could, I would toss the MC80's contain in the dumpster and rock Needa every chance I got. Sadly, they gave it to you damned Imperials.

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The contain token is damned near useless with all the critical upgrades running around (looking at you APTs). If I could, I would toss the MC80's contain in the dumpster and rock Needa every chance I got. Sadly, they gave it to you damned Imperials.

I'm just happy we can bracedirect - just in time for XI7s to dominate the meta.

On my ECM-less VSD so it has a bit better survivability.

Edited by Lord Tareq

Thus far I've stuck with the boring answer of what FFG intended for me to do with Needa: I put him on an ISD to replace the Contain token and I've been happy with that. Replacing the Brace on a VSD feels suicidal. I could see replacing one of the Redirects on a VSD with an Evade provided I was running a VSD-II (giving me the Gladiator/Assault Frigate token suite). Given I'm not very impressed with the VSD-II now that ISDs exist (I still :wub: you, VSD-I, don't fret) I don't see that happening very often.

Needa works great on a ship that has a Turbolaser reroute Circuit. Now you can use that evade both offensively as well as defensively.

As a Rebel I am happy to hear that ISDs are taking Needa and dropping Contains. I want Luke to be able to land those sweet, sweet Dodonna fueled crits forever.

You Needa when:
> You have redundant defense tokens or a defense token you don't feel that you need.

> When you don't need the Officer slot.

The more I thought about it the more I think Needa on any ISD/VSD could be used to replace one of the spare redirects actually. I feel like trying the GSD's defense suite on any VSD that has to start in the setup zone and is expected to fight its way to the target.

Good thing about Needa is you can wait to decide which token (if any).

Bad thing: he's easy to forget :P

The more I thought about it the more I think Needa on any ISD/VSD could be used to replace one of the spare redirects actually. I feel like trying the GSD's defense suite on any VSD that has to start in the setup zone and is expected to fight its way to the target.

Depends on what you're facing. You decide on the defence token swap after you've seen your opponents fleet. Playing a dude rocking 4 x x17? Swap that redirect. 4 x APT ? Bye bye Contain.

You have tactical options with Needa, it should never be an "always do this" option.

The more I thought about it the more I think Needa on any ISD/VSD could be used to replace one of the spare redirects actually. I feel like trying the GSD's defense suite on any VSD that has to start in the setup zone and is expected to fight its way to the target.

You're just jealous of our Assault Frigates.

I use it to replace a redirect usually. X17s make it a rather pointless defense token to have. Still the most broken card in the game.