Something is bothering me with the latest news release about the Ghost.

"Although the VCX-100 features a special firing arc from which it can fire any torpedoes it equips, and although any VCX-100 can equip a turret weapon, the Ghost is most effective when it is flown to catch foes at Range "1" in its primary firing arc. At that point, its attacks of five dice are as devastating as anything in the game..."

This would seem to indicate torpedoes can be fired from both the primary and special arcs. And since the 'Phantom' cannot carry torps/missles, it doesn't need to be docked to the Ghost. So the "Special" arc is not tied into the 'Phantom'. However, we have this for the 'Ghost's title card':

"While you are docked, the GHOST can preform primary weapon attacks from its special firing arc..."

This would seem to indicate you use the Ghost's primary to fire out thru secondary and not the Phantom's. In so far as the general consensus has been in the forum.

My problem is with the second part of that first quote from the preview.

"...the Ghost is most effective when it is flown to catch foes at Range "1" in its primary firing arc. At that point, its attacks of five dice are as devastating as anything in the game..."

Why is that part phrased that way?

Unless the primary meant to being fired out thru the special arc is really the Phantom's primary and not that of the Ghost's.

This makes sense because how would the Phantom increase its primary fire while docked?

Therioes?

You made my head go hurtsies.

I'm not sure why you're dragging the Phantom into it.

The Ghost has a primary arc, a special arc and a turret slot.

The primary arc at range 1 rolls five dice, that's why it is the most destructive.

This makes sense because how would the Phantom increase its primary fire while docked?

Why would it need to to make the statement correct?

Ghost has 4 attack. +1 Attack at range 1 is 5. It can do this all the time.

With the Phantom docked, it can also do it out the back.

Don't put too much stock in the fact that the author said "primary firing arc." What is written is true, but that statement does not exclude the fact that the rear arc (when activated) will also get +1 die at range 1 with primary weapon attacks.

I'd assume that the Special Arc will have special rules to go with it. This could easily include disallowing range modifiers when attacking from it. After all, you can apparently fire Secondary Weapons from it, which makes it radically different from an Auxiliary arc already.

I'm guessing it works like this:

Front arc is primary, works as advertised.

Rear arc is a new type of arc, notice that it has the Torpedo symbol on it, you can't fire your primary weapon out of it but you can fire torpedoes out of this special rear arc.

The language in the article leads me to believe this may be true, bare minimum it is an aux arc like a Firespray but you can fire torpedoes out of it.

I see it very Easy:

Ghost only: Can fire Primary Weapons from primary arc, and torpedoes fro primary and secondary arcs.

Ghost with phantom docked: The same as above, and also can fire primary weapons from secondary arc, and perform a turret attack at the end of the combat phase with a turret upgrade weapon.

It´s so difficult?

It didn't look like a torp icon when we first say it, but then they fake us out on the dials too~

My guess is - it's even simpler, probably just defined as a Secondary Auxiliary Arc. Sure, you'll only use it for torps or with the title, but I'm betting it's either not restricted to an upgrade type, or is torp+missile only. That way they can put it on ships in the future.

Surronian Stinger?

The more interesting implication is that tactician "should" work in the special arc without need for the phantom to be docked (assuming no rules prevent it, which is also entirely possible).

It seems likely/possible that a torpedo would trigger the tactician in the special arc, but the real question is would the turret also trigger tactician without the phantom docked. Worth it, not sure, but interesting nonetheless. Can't wait to see the rules insert.

I think everyone is missing the point of the quote, I'll box the key spots on it

"Although the [VCX-100] features a special firing arc from which it can fire any torpedoes it equips, and although any [VCX-100] can equip a turret weapon, the [GHOST] is most effective when it is flown to catch foes at Range "1" in its [PRIMARY firing arc]. At that point, its attacks of [five dice] are as devastating as anything in the game..."

The first two parts of the first sentence talk about the GENERIC 'VCX-100', you have a special arc that allows you to fire torpedoes and can equip it with a turret. The third part of that sentence refers to the GHOST, not the generic VCX, specifically. In order to have the GHOST you need to equip it first with the PHANTOM. Once equipped:

"While you are docked, the GHOST can preform primary weapon attacks from its special firing arc..."

Assuming that both arcs will have the same primary number, why does the author go onto say in the quote that: "the GHOST is most effective when it is flown to catch foes at Range "1" in its [PRIMARY firing arc]." A generic VCX will have the same primary number with the same range bonus. The GHOST would have the same primary number thru both arcs.* Yet the sentence refers to Hera, on the GHOST, getting the five dice attack ONLY thru it's primary arc.

*(That is assuming that when the PHANTOM is docked you are suppose to use the GHOST'S primary and not the PHANTOM'S)

Could just be talking about the new turret. Perhaps the article was split into two at some point leaving some odd phrasings.

I think everyone is missing the point of the quote, I'll box the key spots on it

"Although the [VCX-100] features a special firing arc from which it can fire any torpedoes it equips, and although any [VCX-100] can equip a turret weapon, the [GHOST] is most effective when it is flown to catch foes at Range "1" in its [PRIMARY firing arc]. At that point, its attacks of [five dice] are as devastating as anything in the game..."

The first two parts of the first sentence talk about the GENERIC 'VCX-100', you have a special arc that allows you to fire torpedoes and can equip it with a turret. The third part of that sentence refers to the GHOST, not the generic VCX, specifically. In order to have the GHOST you need to equip it first with the PHANTOM. Once equipped:

"While you are docked, the GHOST can preform primary weapon attacks from its special firing arc..."

Assuming that both arcs will have the same primary number, why does the author go onto say in the quote that: "the GHOST is most effective when it is flown to catch foes at Range "1" in its [PRIMARY firing arc]." A generic VCX will have the same primary number with the same range bonus. The GHOST would have the same primary number thru both arcs.* Yet the sentence refers to Hera, on the GHOST, getting the five dice attack ONLY thru it's primary arc.

*(That is assuming that when the PHANTOM is docked you are suppose to use the GHOST'S primary and not the PHANTOM'S)

I keep telling you that you're reading too much into the article. The articles are gaming journalism, not rules documents. The writer is using "Ghost" to refer to the ship because the expansion is named after the ship, just like almost every other large ship in the game. It's just switching from VCX-100 to Ghost in order to make the paragraph read more interestingly and less monotonously.

I think everyone is missing the point of the quote, I'll box the key spots on it

"Although the [VCX-100] features a special firing arc from which it can fire any torpedoes it equips, and although any [VCX-100] can equip a turret weapon, the [GHOST] is most effective when it is flown to catch foes at Range "1" in its [PRIMARY firing arc]. At that point, its attacks of [five dice] are as devastating as anything in the game..."

The first two parts of the first sentence talk about the GENERIC 'VCX-100', you have a special arc that allows you to fire torpedoes and can equip it with a turret. The third part of that sentence refers to the GHOST, not the generic VCX, specifically. In order to have the GHOST you need to equip it first with the PHANTOM. Once equipped:

"While you are docked, the GHOST can preform primary weapon attacks from its special firing arc..."

Assuming that both arcs will have the same primary number, why does the author go onto say in the quote that: "the GHOST is most effective when it is flown to catch foes at Range "1" in its [PRIMARY firing arc]." A generic VCX will have the same primary number with the same range bonus. The GHOST would have the same primary number thru both arcs.* Yet the sentence refers to Hera, on the GHOST, getting the five dice attack ONLY thru it's primary arc.

*(That is assuming that when the PHANTOM is docked you are suppose to use the GHOST'S primary and not the PHANTOM'S)

The articles are gaming journalism, not rules documents.

Isn't that an insult to the articles?

(sorry, had to crack it, carry on)

The articles are gaming journalism, not rules documents.

Isn't that an insult to the articles?

(sorry, had to crack it, carry on)

Yes, it is. I despise journalism.

Alright, I can go along with the article being "gaming journalism". I'd never claim all my theories are accurate, I wouldn't even go so far as say 25% could be accurate. I just read an article about something new added to a game and used what was presented to come up with, what I thought as a possible idea to a different style of play to the game.

Could you explain why my theory is so far out there that it's not worth considering to be feasible. While others ideas, using the same information given, are responsible for the huge amount of discussion generated today? For example, from the same quote I used, nobody on the forums before today knew what a "special" arc was. Everyone believed that it only allowed the "Ghost"to fire its primary out the back of the ship only after docking with the "Phantom". But after reading the quote, everyone now believes that the special arc is so for a generic VCX to be able to fire missles/torps out the back of the ship. If it is a case of "Gaming Journalism" wouldn't it be just as crazy to believe that?

I couldn't even understand what your theory supposedly was from reading what you wrote.

The "special" arc uses the Phantom's primary when docked to the Ghost.

The "special" arc uses the Phantom's primary when docked to the Ghost.

The Phantom title card states "...the Ghost can perform primary weapon attacks from its special firing arc...". Given that the subject is the Ghost and not the Phantom in that text, I read that as the Ghost primary. If it were the Phantoms primary I'd expect the text to specify that as "...the Ghost can perform primary weapon attacks from its special firing arc using the Phantoms primary weapon value..." or something to that effect.

I do agree that the article phrasing is awkward in that it specifies the primary firing arc at range 1 instead of primary weapon at range 1.

Therioes?

FFG is trolling us, like they did with the 4 forward green dial in the preview pic.

That is nowhere to be seen on the dial

and yeah, BASICALLY, without docked phantom, it can use special arc for torpedoes only.

dock it and you can dish 4-attack primary out of it as well

What if they made a new rule that you could fire secondary weapons from auxiliary firing arcs?

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Heck, how about not secondaries, but just Missiles and Torps? Would be AWESOME. Imo.

Hounds tooth gets 180 missles and torps. (whoopie honestly. That doesn't do that much game breaking).

Firespray gets rear missiles and torps! Heck yes! Sign me up. Firespray buff!!!