Also, I really want to put Hera and Sabine crew on Lando's Falcon, just because I know it would aggravate Kanan and Ezra...

Double like!!!

Those dials are powerful....

Holy Cow a 5 speed maneuver on a large ship. The first large ship that says EU is for noobs.

Is it just me or is there starting to be a case of dial creep?

Chopper: Just put a red wig on him and call him Mara Jade. As a crew, he's free, so basically a "Why not" option if you have a slot free.

While I'm a bit annoyed at how good the dials are for these two ships, THIS is really the thing that bugs me most about the expansion.

His ability is good, yet he's free. I can't recall any other times we've seen such a strong 'free' upgrade, outside of maybe the TIE/x1 title, which was described quite clearly as a game rebalancing patch for the TIE Advanced.

What was so weak in the Rebel fleet that they needed a patch this strong?

Chopper is not that strong; 1 damage is a lot to ask for and where are you going to put him, exactly? Will he be replacing c3po or gunner or r2d2 on one of your ships? What about KK on super dash?

also, the dials are not that great. I love the options, but that's a lot of red, especially glaring on the 1 and 2 turns, which translate into a lot of weaknessses. Even Hera, which takes up an essential crew, will not remove the drawback of going actionless (unless you feel like killing yourself with chopper)

to add to it, the **** thing has Z-95 greens...on a large base. That's block ******* city right there, unless you run yourself atop an obstacle first

Chopper: Just put a red wig on him and call him Mara Jade. As a crew, he's free, so basically a "Why not" option if you have a slot free.

While I'm a bit annoyed at how good the dials are for these two ships, THIS is really the thing that bugs me most about the expansion.

His ability is good, yet he's free. I can't recall any other times we've seen such a strong 'free' upgrade, outside of maybe the TIE/x1 title, which was described quite clearly as a game rebalancing patch for the TIE Advanced.

What was so weak in the Rebel fleet that they needed a patch this strong?

It's...not a patch. Rebels had no iconic crew worth their points outside of C-3PO. Lando, Leia, Han, Luke were all garbage. Chewie is just OK.

Meanwhile Imperials and Scum were getting all kinds of amazing crew, even people not on screen or just generic people/droids.

Chopper has a heavy tradeoff. It makes sense to make him 0. That's beside the fact that Rebels lacked decent iconic crew.

Chopper: Just put a red wig on him and call him Mara Jade. As a crew, he's free, so basically a "Why not" option if you have a slot free.

While I'm a bit annoyed at how good the dials are for these two ships, THIS is really the thing that bugs me most about the expansion.

His ability is good, yet he's free. I can't recall any other times we've seen such a strong 'free' upgrade, outside of maybe the TIE/x1 title, which was described quite clearly as a game rebalancing patch for the TIE Advanced.

What was so weak in the Rebel fleet that they needed a patch this strong?

Every time Chopper uses his ability, he deals one damage to your ship. He basically gives you the ability to spend health to get an action. The only times that really works out to a great trade are when you can use it to arc-dodge. It's not like you're going to want to use him to take an Evade action (take a damage to... prevent one damage).

Exactly what ships become overpowered thanks to his presence?

Not over-powered IMAO but I think Miranda makes the most sense. Can still get the SLAM outta dodge even when stressed. Also have the wonderful ability to put that shield right back up next turn.

Not over-powered IMAO but I think Miranda makes the most sense. Can still get the SLAM outta dodge even when stressed. Also have the wonderful ability to put that shield right back up next turn.

Miranda has zero red maneuvers on her dial, though. She's only taking stress from either EI or enemy control lists.

Hera: amazing in every way. As a Ghost Pilot with Intel Agent, she's going to be causing everyone fits if they try to keep her in arc, especially on a red maneuver. As a Phantom pilot, she doesn't even need the Intel Agent unless she takes Stay On Target. And her crew ability is also stupid awesome for 1 point.

Kanan: Kanan, meet Kyle Katarn and Biggs Darklighter. You three are going to have fun together when you're not riding shotgun for Dash Rendar.

Ezra: great shuttle pilot, seems overpriced as crew.

Sabine: Intel Agent and PTL will be annoying as a shuttle pilot. K-Wings will love her as a crew member, but she also adds an unexpected element to everything else with a crew slot. Goodbye, CR-90 aft blind spot!

Zeb: Eh, underwhelmed on him in both forms. His crew is better than his pilot, though.

Chopper: Just put a red wig on him and call him Mara Jade. As a crew, he's free, so basically a "Why not" option if you have a slot free.

Overall, I am going to love this expansion.

Keep in mind we are missing the Zeb VCX pilot, That ability has yet to be spoiled.

Okay, is this possible...

Sabine Crew + GR75 = Transport Bomber?

Think crazier: Ordnance Tubes on a CR90. Fill it with Extra Munitions. Sabine and Bombardier crew. Twice the bombing fun at twice the distance!

Extra Munitions: Limited

Thus only 2 bombs.

If you are running Ghost and Phantom, is it worth it to run anything other than a Barebones Zeb? Since the pilot ability and upgrades on the shuttle are useless while docked, it seems like a better choice to make the turret shot more effective via received spec and fcs. Also kitting out the shuttle would also take points away from your 3rd ship.

Hera: amazing in every way. As a Ghost Pilot with Intel Agent, she's going to be causing everyone fits if they try to keep her in arc, especially on a red maneuver. As a Phantom pilot, she doesn't even need the Intel Agent unless she takes Stay On Target. And her crew ability is also stupid awesome for 1 point.

Kanan: Kanan, meet Kyle Katarn and Biggs Darklighter. You three are going to have fun together when you're not riding shotgun for Dash Rendar.

Ezra: great shuttle pilot, seems overpriced as crew.

Sabine: Intel Agent and PTL will be annoying as a shuttle pilot. K-Wings will love her as a crew member, but she also adds an unexpected element to everything else with a crew slot. Goodbye, CR-90 aft blind spot!

Zeb: Eh, underwhelmed on him in both forms. His crew is better than his pilot, though.

Chopper: Just put a red wig on him and call him Mara Jade. As a crew, he's free, so basically a "Why not" option if you have a slot free.

Overall, I am going to love this expansion.

Keep in mind we are missing the Zeb VCX pilot, That ability has yet to be spoiled.

The only unspoiled cards are that generic and the Thermal Detonator.

Was already going to buy this expansion since I enjoy the show and an FFG-modelled Ghost sounds fantastic. This just solidifies that it's a great purchase gameplay-wise

And I also don't think Imperials or Scum are left out this wave, Scum get the remaining bounty hunters, and the Empire get a whole new Huge ship and nifty new Tie Fighters, of both the old and the new.

The real difficulty I'll be having is deciding on builds to use, a lot of good options...

Not over-powered IMAO but I think Miranda makes the most sense. Can still get the SLAM outta dodge even when stressed. Also have the wonderful ability to put that shield right back up next turn.

Miranda has zero red maneuvers on her dial, though. She's only taking stress from either EI or enemy control lists.

Very true. But it costs zero and if it never procs, no worries. But stresshogs are going to be everywhere during store championships and a stressed Miranda is not happy.

Pfaw, Huge ships don't count as part of waves, so the Imperial side in me will only get a TIE Advanced wannabe. ;(.

Not over-powered IMAO but I think Miranda makes the most sense. Can still get the SLAM outta dodge even when stressed. Also have the wonderful ability to put that shield right back up next turn.

Miranda has zero red maneuvers on her dial, though. She's only taking stress from either EI or enemy control lists.

Very true. But it costs zero and if it never procs, no worries. But stresshogs are going to be everywhere during store championships and a stressed Miranda is not happy.

I'd worry

no crew slot means no c3po, no tactician (no Sabine either)

opportunity cost is massive

plus, stressed Miranda doesn't actually care that much. Her crew and her ability give zero ***** about her actions. Relative to Corran, Soontir, or even Poe, she loses very little.

Is Hera (vcx) that strong? I mean, on the VCX you can make a 1/3 turn into a k turn and vice versa, and can make a 1 straight into a 1 bank and vice versa? Can that be made into to a meaningful advantage in game? I can't help but think she should have been at least PS8, both thematically and game play wise. I'm open to being wrong, but I'm cool on her as a first impression.

I think she's amazing. Intel agent lets her decide whether to go left, right or k against swarms and aces. With phantom docked that means probably 5 dice.

Priorities... Ok, I just explained my children why they will not get gifts at christmas this year. I tried hard to explain, but unfortunately they didn´t understand why it´s so important to be able to make red maneuvers when you are stressed.

Hopefully someday they will understand it and forgive me

Okay, so Sabine as pilot... Her ability reads, "Immediately before you reveal a maneuver, you may perform a free boost or barrel roll action." I'm assuming with PTL, this would essentially work the same as the BB-8 combo... Get 3 actions with no stress if you reveal a green? It'd go something like this:

Before revealing the maneuver, Sabine boosts to the right w/ her ability.

Use PTL to assign an evade token. Assign stress from PTL.

Do your GREEN maneuver. Remove stress.

Do your normal one action to assign a focus.

3 actions. No stress. Am I missing something, or is this possible?

Okay, so Sabine as pilot... Her ability reads, "Immediately before you reveal a maneuver, you may perform a free boost or barrel roll action." I'm assuming with PTL, this would essentially work the same as the BB-8 combo... Get 3 actions with no stress if you reveal a green? It'd go something like this:

Before revealing the maneuver, Sabine boosts to the right w/ her ability.

Use PTL to assign an evade token. Assign stress from PTL.

Do your GREEN maneuver. Remove stress.

Do your normal one action to assign a focus.

3 actions. No stress. Am I missing something, or is this possible?

Sounds right to me.

And yet again, another reason to never run any EPT other than PTL, VI, or Pred.

Okay, so Sabine as pilot... Her ability reads, "Immediately before you reveal a maneuver, you may perform a free boost or barrel roll action." I'm assuming with PTL, this would essentially work the same as the BB-8 combo... Get 3 actions with no stress if you reveal a green? It'd go something like this:

Before revealing the maneuver, Sabine boosts to the right w/ her ability.

Use PTL to assign an evade token. Assign stress from PTL.

Do your GREEN maneuver. Remove stress.

Do your normal one action to assign a focus.

3 actions. No stress. Am I missing something, or is this possible?

it can get better.

Put KYle Katarn on the ship. now you go..

Boost or BR

PTL + Action, we'll say Evade

Green move + Clear Stress + Focus from kyle

Other action, either focus or BR.

4 actions, no stress all fun.

Okay, so Sabine as pilot... Her ability reads, "Immediately before you reveal a maneuver, you may perform a free boost or barrel roll action." I'm assuming with PTL, this would essentially work the same as the BB-8 combo... Get 3 actions with no stress if you reveal a green? It'd go something like this:

Before revealing the maneuver, Sabine boosts to the right w/ her ability.

Use PTL to assign an evade token. Assign stress from PTL.

Do your GREEN maneuver. Remove stress.

Do your normal one action to assign a focus.

3 actions. No stress. Am I missing something, or is this possible?

it can get better.

Put KYle Katarn on the ship. now you go..

Boost or BR

PTL + Action, we'll say Evade

Green move + Clear Stress + Focus from kyle

Other action, either focus or BR.

4 actions, no stress all fun.

.....

Well, there's that.

So who wants to make the thread complaining about it being OP? Volunteers?

Okay, so Sabine as pilot... Her ability reads, "Immediately before you reveal a maneuver, you may perform a free boost or barrel roll action." I'm assuming with PTL, this would essentially work the same as the BB-8 combo... Get 3 actions with no stress if you reveal a green? It'd go something like this:

Before revealing the maneuver, Sabine boosts to the right w/ her ability.

Use PTL to assign an evade token. Assign stress from PTL.

Do your GREEN maneuver. Remove stress.

Do your normal one action to assign a focus.

3 actions. No stress. Am I missing something, or is this possible?

it can get better.

Put KYle Katarn on the ship. now you go..

Boost or BR

PTL + Action, we'll say Evade

Green move + Clear Stress + Focus from kyle

Other action, either focus or BR.

4 actions, no stress all fun.

.....

Well, there's that.

So who wants to make the thread complaining about it being OP? Volunteers?

its not OP tho, becuase if you Kyle here, you cant also Kyle on Dash, and everyone knows dash is THE OP, OP

Priorities... Ok, I just explained my children why they will not get gifts at christmas this year. I tried hard to explain, but unfortunately they didn´t understand why it´s so important to be able to make red maneuvers when you are stressed.

Hopefully someday they will understand it and forgive me

Just tell 'em this is Santa's sleigh (hence the turning red).

Okay, so Sabine as pilot... Her ability reads, "Immediately before you reveal a maneuver, you may perform a free boost or barrel roll action." I'm assuming with PTL, this would essentially work the same as the BB-8 combo... Get 3 actions with no stress if you reveal a green? It'd go something like this:

Before revealing the maneuver, Sabine boosts to the right w/ her ability.

Use PTL to assign an evade token. Assign stress from PTL.

Do your GREEN maneuver. Remove stress.

Do your normal one action to assign a focus.

3 actions. No stress. Am I missing something, or is this possible?

it can get better.

Put KYle Katarn on the ship. now you go..

Boost or BR

PTL + Action, we'll say Evade

Green move + Clear Stress + Focus from kyle

Other action, either focus or BR.

4 actions, no stress all fun.

.....

Well, there's that.

So who wants to make the thread complaining about it being OP? Volunteers?

Don't be Para. .