I have the TIE Advanced (also bought the title and ATC off eBay), but I can't seem to find a good build to put Vader in with the Imperial ships I currently have. Can anybody suggest a decent squad using Vader and the ships listed in my sig or suggest which Imperial ship I should grab next?
Suggestions for a Vader build?
I'd recommend either a TIE/Phantom or a TIE/Interceptor expansion, as both will allow you to field decent aces pretty much out of the package, with what you already have.
Soontir (Interceptor expansion) likes Push the Limit (a lot), and with Imperial Aces can field two modifications (albeit not the two he usually uses, which are Autothrusters and Stealth Device).
Whisper (Phantom expansion) can be tricky to fly, but with Veteran Instincts, Advanced Cloaking Device and some other stuff can hit hard, then vanish.
With what you have you could also put together a pretty good Ace Hunter Vader:
Vader
X1 title and Advanced Targeting Computer
Engine Upgrade
Veteran Instincts
With two reposition actions at PS 11, Vader can dodge arcs and outfly aces with the best of them. Although, this does take away your access to Veteran Instincts on Whisper...
You could also buy a Decimator, which would allow you to field a decent Vader/Decimator two ship list pretty easily.
A pretty popular list has been Vader + 2 aces, usually Turr and Soontir, but Carnor can work as well.
Vader is possibly the easiest Imperial ship to throw into a list because he's effective as soon as you stick an Advanced Targeting Computer on him. Any EPT works fine with him. Engine upgrade is great (although not essential). Missiles are a bit extravagant and of questionable value, but he's an excellent platform for firing them (if you do take a missile, then you want predator unless its Ion pulse missile, homing missile or advanced homing missile).
Since you really don't have many ships to work with, I would suggest:
Something like:
Vader w/ x-1, ATC, veteran instincts & engine = 35
Soontir Fel w/ push the limit, royal guard title, autothrusters & hull upgrade (or stealth, or target computer) = 35 (or 34 w/ TC)
2 TIE/fo's (epsilon pilots) = 15 x 2
100 (or 99 with target comp)
If you don't have autothrusters, I suggest trying your best to get your hands on it. Interceptors really benefit from that card. In the meantime, you could use something else until you got it.
Warning: this is a bit of a finesse list. Fel especially will die if you don't fly him carefully and avoid potential blocks. Once you get used to him, he's great as a decoy since everyone wants to kill him first, you can have him sucker the opponent's attention and then fly away out of danger. Meanwhile Vader is your killer. ATC means his shots tend to hit hard. The two TIE/fos are there just for blocking and being a nuisance. They will get mostly ignored in all likelihood, which allows them to deal some damage here and there.
This list takes lots of practice, so I suggest getting the models out and try different types of deployment. Your two basic set ups will be all of your ships in one corner (with the TIE/fos in front) or put Soontir on a flank. You can also deploy these guys in a somewhat loose formation in the middle (actually not really a formation per se): TIE/fo's in the centre, flanked by Vader & Soontir. The reason you might try this type of set up is mainly against large-based ships that want to fly towards the middle. By taking the middle, you are hopefully scaring them into a corner where they are much easier to kill because they lose maneuver options and become more predictable.
Edited by blade_mercurialI personally love him with Outmaneuver engine upgrade along with ATC.
but i usually run him with either a Soontir fel and Palpmobile, or just a bunch of Tie Advanceds
Edited by Panic 217Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I'll grab an Interceptor and try some of these builds out.
I had a very successful game using this list:
TIE Advanced
Darth Vader (35)
Squad Leader
Cluster Missiles
TIE Bomber
Major Rhymer (34)
Advanced Proton Torpedoes
Seismic Charges
TIE/FO Fighter
Epsilon Squadron Pilot (15)
Epsilon Squadron Pilot (15)
Total (99)
Vader has been really amazing for me lately, no matter what list he's on. He can kind of take care of himself which makes it easy to add him to any list. Vader-PalpShuttle-Soontir has been great for me, also experimenting with Vader-Redline-TIEs or something similar.
TIE Advanced
Darth Vader
Predator
Proton Rockets
TIE x/1
Advanced Targeting Computer
Engine Upgrade
Get into range one and roll 5 dice with prockets, re-roll with Predator. If Palpatine is on the board, change one more dice. I killed two dif A-Wings on dif occasions with one Proton Rockets attack. And regular attacks give you two dice, a chance to reroll, and a guaranteed crit no matter what.