Guri, Palob, and ???

By Bulgakov, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Guri (30)

Predator (3)

Virago (1)

Sensor Jammer (4)

Autothrusters (2)

Total (40)

Palob (20)

Lightning Reflexes (1)

Twin Laser Turret (6)

Tactician (2)

Moldy Crow (3)

Total (32)

Reamining points: 28

I really like these two ships as a solid base but I can't figure out what to fill the 28 points with. I originally had Guri with wired and Kavil with R4 and blaster turret (30 pts) but I found wired to be ultimately redundant and Guri's firepower somewhat muted. I won the match but I think I can make the list better. Any ideas?

Perhaps a pair of Black Sun soldiers, giving you the initiative bid.

· Serissu (20)

· Bodyguard (2)

"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (2)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

Squishy little bugger, but could keep Guri alive longer, while getting in some good hits of his own.

Nevermind Bodyguard is ps higher,ignore me

Edited by Seraphimtoaster375

There is a list similar to what you listed with the addition of Torkil Mux. I have not tried it yet but it sounds fun and is on my list to try, just haven't bought a second HWK yet.

Talonbane Cobra. Drop some of the upgrades off the others and give them to him. Guri really only needs Autothrusters.

I mean, for the price you are paying for Guri you could have an IG88-C with FCS and Autothrusters.

That's 3 more shields, a better dial, free evade when you boost, free target locks after attacking. A large base which has both detriments and benefits.

Edited by Vulf

Palob likes Lone Wolf. It works with TLT and his ability to horde focus tokens. Guri can hit the gas to boost away from him at the game start.

That'd leave you with 27 points. Sounds like enough for Mux with TLT and Tactician (or Glitterstim), to me.

My guess is Guri is supposed to hang out with Palob, to get the synergy between Palob's ability and Sensor Jammer.

I'd try adding a TLT thug with unhinged Astro. Then maybe change Palob's EPT to Opportunist?

Having run a Torkil Mux, Palob Godalhi and Latts Razzi build (for fun) I think opportunist on Palob is a good idea. I didn't and had real trouble punching through brobots. I like your squad and may dump latts for Guri or IG88. Tactician only works if the target is in arc. That's not easy with a HWK, especially a stressed one.

Torkil Tlt recon. 28 points. Will help out your over all low ps of 5.

I like the idea of using Torkil. One of the things I like most about this list is that it doesn't rely on PS as much and instead opts for board control. This is where tactician comes in (which pairs well with LR).

Guri as built is rock solid if a little pricey.. I wouldn't change much there except maybe the EPT. It can be pretty hard to punch through 3 AGI + AT + SJ + focus.

Kavil is beast I thinks theres definitely worse inclusions you could take and he would take heat off palob. Otoh a pair of feedback array z95s would be decent here too.

id probably add a ywing or ndru decked out

I've been considering the following two lists for this weekend. The first is one I found here in the forum a while back, the second is me meddling.

Worth mentioning that I've used Guri a fair amount (not that I'm great), including in this (Predator version) form. Haven't used the HWKs much, but the idea with the second list is to use Palob to purge Guri's stress if I go Push the Limit. Either way, him stealing focus/evades will let her go to work while Torkil tries to stay at range 2 for his ability and to lob in the TLT.

Thoughts?

Guri (30)

Predator (3)

Virago (1)

Sensor Jammer (4)

Autothrusters (2)

Total (40)

Palob (20)

Twin Laser Turret (6)

Recon Specialist (3)

Moldy Crow (3)

Total (32)

Torkhil Mux (19)

Twin Laser Turret (6)

Recon Specialist (3)

Total (28)

Guri (30)

Predator OR Push the Limit (3)

Virago (1)

Sensor Jammer (4)

Autothrusters (2)

Total (40)

Palob (20)

Wingman (2)

Blaster Turret (6)

Recon Specialist (3)

Moldy Crow (3)

Total (32)

Torkhil Mux (19)

Twin Laser Turret (6)

Recon Specialist (3)

Total (28)

A friend of mine runs VI on Guri and Bodyguard on Palob with Serissu as a 3rd with stealth device. Bodyguard on Palob with VI Guri and Serissu means 4 green + Authothrusters or 5 green, respectively. He has good success for running a 3 small ship scum list.

I've been toying with the idea of a Palob build that would include Talonbane with opportunist. I figure their combination could potentially be brutal but I'm working out specifics.

Alternately, Kaatos might be a good one to work with Palob.

IG-88B — Aggressor 36

Opportunist 4

Sensor Jammer 4

"Mangler" Cannon 4

Tactical Jammer 1

Ship Total: 49

Palob Godalhi — HWK-290 20

Twin Laser Turret 6

Ship Total: 26

Serissu — M3-A Interceptor 20

Swarm Tactics 2

Stealth Device 3

Ship Total: 25

I tried this list yesterday. Was a lot of fun, but the big problem with it was Palob was moving first. I didn't have a chance to play test it, otherwise I would have swapped the Swarm tactics to VI on Palob. It has interesting synergy as palob will steal tokens, Serissu will provide defense bonuses to her buddies and The B becomes surprising tanky with the Sensor jammer and protective of his compadres behind him, adding additional dice of defense.

Edited by Starnite_IV

Interesting build... here are a few ideas:

-Black Sun Ace (Predator, Glitterstim) - 28 points

-Binayre (Feedback Array) x2 - 28 points

-Hired Gun (TLT, R4 Agromech) - 28 points

-Tansarii Point veteran (Lone Wolf, Heavy Scyk title, Mangler Cannon, Hull Upgrade) - 28 points

-Torkil Mux (Ion Cannon Turret, Shield Upgrade) - 28 points

I've been toying with the idea of a Palob build that would include Talonbane with opportunist. I figure their combination could potentially be brutal but I'm working out specifics.

Alternately, Kaatos might be a good one to work with Palob.

I think Push the limit with Target Lock and Focus or Boost would average out to more damage every turn. Boost definitely for getting into range 1 for the extra die, and Push the limit will make sure those 5 die get modified.

karvil

I'd probably drop the Tactician from Palob and go for a 30pt ship as my #3. I like what the card does, but the HWK isn't the most maneuverable ship and it could prove tricky getting much usage out of it vs rebel/imperial small ship lists. Something like...

Guri (30)
Predator (3)
Virago (1)
Sensor Jammer (4)
Autothrusters (2)
Total (40)

Palob (20)
Lightning Reflexes (1)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Moldy Crow (3)
Total (30)

Kavil (24) OR Talonbane Cobra (28)

Twin Laser Turret (6) Glitterstim (2)

Total (30) Total (30)