Honestly it's the dumbest ability on him. Like... would you honestly choose to NOT activate him just to save him and activate him last via rogue?

Yes. Han comes with the most flexibility of any squadron. Going first isn't always to your advantage in Armada. Lots of reasons not to use his ability. No battle plan survives contact with the enemy. Han gives you the ability to be either re-active or pro-active or both.

I'm thinking, Yavaris, Talon, use rogue in squadron phase, Shoot first and move or move and shoot first next turn. Four attacks and two moves in two turns. End that second move where Yavaris will end up and do it all again. In a six turn game Han can potentially attack 12 times and move every round with Yavaris and Talon.

Might want to give him an extra die by waiting and activating from a ship with flight controllers.

Shouldn't that be "attack 17" times?

Also, kind of off topic, say its a mirror match of rebels, both players are using the falcon and they both want to activate at the start of the ship phase, I assume the player with initiative would get to move his first. Would this be the case?

Page 5, RRG, Effect Use and Timing:

• If both players have effects with the same timing, the first player resolves all of his effects with that timing first.

Hey, at least the OP didn't ask why Han Solo has rouge.

Someone that roguishly handsome has to have Rogue. I think it's in the Geneva convention.

The real tragedy is that members of Rogue Squadron don't have Rogue.

Which brings up a question I'm just going to have to keep asking. Why does ffg hate Wedge Antilles?

They don't hate him, they just are doing their part to ensure he maintains his lead as "Most underrated Star Wars character"

/me sobs in corner

Someone that roguishly handsome has to have Rogue. I think it's in the Geneva convention.

The real tragedy is that members of Rogue Squadron don't have Rogue.

Which brings up a question I'm just going to have to keep asking. Why does ffg hate Wedge Antilles?

I think its because Denis Lawson turned down reprising the role in the Force Awakens...I'm a little upset by that.

I filed that next to "Matrix sequels" under "Things I'll pretend didn't happen"

I came here with the same answer, but it looks like you both have the situation under wraps.

I'm a little bitter about that myself.

Studio: "Hey, you wanna part in the next chapter of the most successful movie franchise in history?"

Denis: "Nah, sounds boring."

My understanding was that the conversation went "hey Dennis do you want a really small cameo in the new movie?

To which, Dennis responded "you known who Wedge Antilles is?"

And was told "Yeah none of that happened anymore"

So he turned it down.

Honestly it's the dumbest ability on him. Like... would you honestly choose to NOT activate him just to save him and activate him last via rogue?

Yes. Han comes with the most flexibility of any squadron. Going first isn't always to your advantage in Armada. Lots of reasons not to use his ability. No battle plan survives contact with the enemy. Han gives you the ability to be either re-active or pro-active or both.

I'm thinking, Yavaris, Talon, use rogue in squadron phase, Shoot first and move or move and shoot first next turn. Four attacks and two moves in two turns. End that second move where Yavaris will end up and do it all again. In a six turn game Han can potentially attack 12 times and move every round with Yavaris and Talon.

Might want to give him an extra die by waiting and activating from a ship with flight controllers.

Shouldn't that be "attack 17" times?

4 attacks every two turns (Two from Yavaris off a squadron command, one in squadron phase from Talon, shoot first next turn) is three sets of four attacks in a six round game for 12 attacks.

If you skip the ability and Yavaris and Talon him every turn it is eighteen assuming you can get in range and keep enough stuff in range and remain in range of Yavaris/Talon.

How were you figuring seventeen? Or did I miss the joke?

Someone that roguishly handsome has to have Rogue. I think it's in the Geneva convention.

The real tragedy is that members of Rogue Squadron don't have Rogue.

Which brings up a question I'm just going to have to keep asking. Why does ffg hate Wedge Antilles?

They don't hate him, they just are doing their part to ensure he maintains his lead as "Most underrated Star Wars character"

/me sobs in corner

Someone that roguishly handsome has to have Rogue. I think it's in the Geneva convention.

The real tragedy is that members of Rogue Squadron don't have Rogue.

Which brings up a question I'm just going to have to keep asking. Why does ffg hate Wedge Antilles?

I think its because Denis Lawson turned down reprising the role in the Force Awakens...I'm a little upset by that.

I filed that next to "Matrix sequels" under "Things I'll pretend didn't happen"

I came here with the same answer, but it looks like you both have the situation under wraps.

I'm a little bitter about that myself.

Studio: "Hey, you wanna part in the next chapter of the most successful movie franchise in history?"

Denis: "Nah, sounds boring."

My understanding was that the conversation went "hey Dennis do you want a really small cameo in the new movie?

To which, Dennis responded "you known who Wedge Antilles is?"

And was told "Yeah none of that happened anymore"

So he turned it down.

Not according to sources:

http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/12/5711780/star-wars-episode-7-wont-feature-wedge-antilles-actor

http://www.dailydot.com/geek/wedge-antilles-turns-down-star-wars/

http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/13/they-asked-me-but-it-just-would-have-bored-me-star-wars-actor-denis-lawson-turns-down-episode-7-role-4726429/

To name a few. Assuming that said reports are accurate naturally (which should never be blithely assumed).

Honestly it's the dumbest ability on him. Like... would you honestly choose to NOT activate him just to save him and activate him last via rogue?

Yes. Han comes with the most flexibility of any squadron. Going first isn't always to your advantage in Armada. Lots of reasons not to use his ability. No battle plan survives contact with the enemy. Han gives you the ability to be either re-active or pro-active or both.

I'm thinking, Yavaris, Talon, use rogue in squadron phase, Shoot first and move or move and shoot first next turn. Four attacks and two moves in two turns. End that second move where Yavaris will end up and do it all again. In a six turn game Han can potentially attack 12 times and move every round with Yavaris and Talon.

Might want to give him an extra die by waiting and activating from a ship with flight controllers.

Shouldn't that be "attack 17" times?

4 attacks every two turns (Two from Yavaris off a squadron command, one in squadron phase from Talon, shoot first next turn) is three sets of four attacks in a six round game for 12 attacks.

If you skip the ability and Yavaris and Talon him every turn it is eighteen assuming you can get in range and keep enough stuff in range and remain in range of Yavaris/Talon.

How were you figuring seventeen? Or did I miss the joke?

No joke, I just figured there is no way to count on Han, with his Biggs escort, is going to get into range turn 1 with out moving.

Someone that roguishly handsome has to have Rogue. I think it's in the Geneva convention.

The real tragedy is that members of Rogue Squadron don't have Rogue.

Which brings up a question I'm just going to have to keep asking. Why does ffg hate Wedge Antilles?

They don't hate him, they just are doing their part to ensure he maintains his lead as "Most underrated Star Wars character"

/me sobs in corner

Someone that roguishly handsome has to have Rogue. I think it's in the Geneva convention.

The real tragedy is that members of Rogue Squadron don't have Rogue.

Which brings up a question I'm just going to have to keep asking. Why does ffg hate Wedge Antilles?

I think its because Denis Lawson turned down reprising the role in the Force Awakens...I'm a little upset by that.

I filed that next to "Matrix sequels" under "Things I'll pretend didn't happen"

I came here with the same answer, but it looks like you both have the situation under wraps.

I'm a little bitter about that myself.

Studio: "Hey, you wanna part in the next chapter of the most successful movie franchise in history?"

Denis: "Nah, sounds boring."

My understanding was that the conversation went "hey Dennis do you want a really small cameo in the new movie?

To which, Dennis responded "you known who Wedge Antilles is?"

And was told "Yeah none of that happened anymore"

So he turned it down.

Not according to sources:

http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/12/5711780/star-wars-episode-7-wont-feature-wedge-antilles-actor

http://www.dailydot.com/geek/wedge-antilles-turns-down-star-wars/

http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/13/they-asked-me-but-it-just-would-have-bored-me-star-wars-actor-denis-lawson-turns-down-episode-7-role-4726429/

To name a few. Assuming that said reports are accurate naturally (which should never be blithely assumed).

"Lawson – who is uncle to prequel trilogy star Ewan McGregor – has previously said he would only be interested in a role that was larger than his original appearances."

And

"Lawson suggested he might have returned if the role was increased in scope, but ultimately rejected the offer."

From what the reporters wrote, it sounds like Cat is right. You don't take the best pilot in the Galaxy and turn him into a cameo.

Wedge had his own series in the now nuked EU. Can't say I blame him for thinking some cameo wasn't worth his time just on a working actor who doesn't need any part he can get principle. Going from blowing up the DSII to sitting at some comm station for don't blink or you'll miss it and you might miss it if you don't blink cause the camera will be shaking has to seem like a waste of time.

Why does Han Solo have Rogue?

Because he is one.

Why does Han Solo have Rogue?

Because he is one.

The internet is no place for logic. Bad, bad DWRR!

Looking at Hans wording again "you may activate as if you were activated by a squadron (symbol) command". Does this allow the use of Adar Tallon before the ship phase? The wording seems quite specific, using the squadron symbol as well. Surely they could have just said, you may activate before ships in the ship phase, since Han has rogue anyway?

Looking at Hans wording again "you may activate as if you were activated by a squadron (symbol) command". Does this allow the use of Adar Tallon before the ship phase? The wording seems quite specific, using the squadron symbol as well. Surely they could have just said, you may activate before ships in the ship phase, since Han has rogue anyway?

No. Adar Talon's ability has the word "you" in it, and that has the rather paradoxical meaning of "this ship or squadron" when it comes to upgrade cards, per the FAQ. So Adar Talon's ability only triggers if you (the player) use you (the ship) to activate the squadron.

Ah yes - it's easy to get which 'you' mixed up ! ****, I so want Han to be worth his cost!!!

It's just there to ensure that whenever you want to use him (when Han Shoots First, Squadron command, or Squadrons phase) he gets the "full" activation. There can be some niche situations where you'd want to. Best example I have for when you might want to is Adar Tallon him with a squadron command and then activate him again during the Squadrons phase for two full activations. Lulz.

I was going to say exactly this, but Snip as usual beat me to it.

Han is awesome.

You can still activate Han later in the phase with a squadron order with Tallon.

Pair that with a Yavaris for 4 attacks with Han on some poor fighter ball. (1 with Tallon, 2 with Yavaris w/out moving, 1 at the beginning of the next turn)

I dont quite understand the discussion of Han and Yavaris. My understanding of Han is he is at his best in a fleet that is light on squadrons, so you need a soloer to flank alone.

I dont quite understand the discussion of Han and Yavaris. My understanding of Han is he is at his best in a fleet that is light on squadrons, so you need a soloer to flank alone.

Well the discussion began with why Han has Rogue when he can give himself a squadron command. Yavaris comes up as a reason for Han not to give himself a squadron command at the beginning of the ship phase - so he might attack twice. You could use Han as you suggest but what he's "best at" wasn't really the question.

He has Rogue because he is the most flexible squadron out there.

Someone that roguishly handsome has to have Rogue. I think it's in the Geneva convention.

The real tragedy is that members of Rogue Squadron don't have Rogue.

Which brings up a question I'm just going to have to keep asking. Why does ffg hate Wedge Antilles?

Unless he's also meh in the LCG I wouldn't say FFG hates him. His ability is definitely...lacking, shall we say, in Armada, but his X-wing ability is awesome; he's just stuck in a ship that's behind the curve design wise and will likely still be touched up.

Being a squadron heavy player, I haven't tried Solo yet, but being able to be used as a wildcard at the optimal moment is pretty awesome in my book.

Han offers an easy double tap. With no upgrades in effect, he can move at the end of the squadron phase, hit his target of choice, then activate again at the start of the ship phase, firing and possibly withdrawing from harm's way. The Falcon has the ultimate advantage of activation flexibility.

Han offers an easy double tap. With no upgrades in effect, he can move at the end of the squadron phase, hit his target of choice, then activate again at the start of the ship phase, firing and possibly withdrawing from harm's way. The Falcon has the ultimate advantage of activation flexibility.

That double tap is indeed pretty darn impressive when you look at the damage he throws. 2 Blues, 2 Black is one dead TIE Fighter on average and 1 blue 1 black is 1.25 damage against ships on average (too bad he doesn't have Bomber, he'd have been overpowered )

Especially considering the fact that he can move then shoot, or shoot then move. With the double tap, he gets in, shoots twice, gets out of the way as a big fat distraction that can take a punch with 7 hull points and 2 braces

Honestly it's the dumbest ability on him. Like... would you honestly choose to NOT activate him just to save him and activate him last via rogue?

Because if you look "Rogues in Star Wars" in a dictionary the first two things you'll see will be Han's face and Lando's face

Honestly it's the dumbest ability on him. Like... would you honestly choose to NOT activate him just to save him and activate him last via rogue?

Because if you look "Rogues in Star Wars" in a dictionary the first two things you'll see will be Han's face and Lando's face