FAQing abilities to the core

By Warpman, in X-Wing

Hello there, fellow reader.

have you ever had a thought "****, this one word, and the ability would be good, and pilots would see some use!"

I have, and the more I dive into the realm of non-competitive funplay, the more such thoughts I get.

In example Torkil Mux. Just change the "end of the " to "beginning of"

and POW, he's the bane of the aces, forcing them to rely on their precognition, and not high PS. In a R2 bubble of confusion and madness.

or Turr Phennir, if he could use his ability before the attack? Or just FAQ the word "action" out of it and he's suddenly the master of rolling!

or Wes Jansen? If he whacks the token before, not after the attack, he's suddenly really is worth the price of Wedge despite PS8

Not saying PETITION, though, just want to hear your thoughts, maybe I'm not the only one?

how do people feel about FAQing abilities not to suit the RAI, but changing the RAI to make them worthwile

Edited by Warpman

Fel's Wrath needs some FAQ love.

At least Night Beast finally got his due.

Never say petition. Never.

Edited by GrimmyV

That Torkil would need to have a substantial cost increase.

Agree about Turr and Wes.

Not a big deal for the health of the game overall though.

That Torkil would need to have a substantial cost increase.

Agree about Turr and Wes.

Not a big deal for the health of the game overall though.

I agree, Torkhil would be ridiculous for his cost if they changed that.

I like Turr's ability how it is. I could see maybe removing 'action', but I think he is fine how he is.

Wes could use the buff. It would make him a bit better/more interesting. I'd bet you would see more Opportunist on him instead of VI that way.

Fels wrath needs... something.

Fels wrath needs... something.

A useful ability?

Fels wrath needs... something.

A useful ability?

extend his ability to all friendly Tie Fighters and Interceptors within range 1-2

Wrath of the 181st!

...and give him an ept for god's sake

Edited by ficklegreendice

Wes Jansen's ability is devastating. Veteran instincts, r3-a2, and engine.

I watched many phantoms fall to that combo, and have seen many interceptors go belly up due to double stress.

Torkil Mux is already good. Doesn't need changing.

If FW is within range 1 of a friendly, he may suffer a <crit> to remove a successful <hit> dice incurred.

or something.

"Wrath" sounds too angry to be that protective

maybe he gets free stuff if he begins combat within range 1 of a friendly with a damage card

then you fly him along a Vadermator

Fel's Wrath would be easy if it simply said 'until the end of the next Combat Phase'

Fel's Wrath needs some FAQ love.

At least Night Beast finally got his due.

Never say petition. Never.

What's your petition against using petition? (please state your petition in a separate new petition thread as it's off topic for this thread so I'd be forced to petition

Turr Phenir is the guy who will shoot you, boost or barrel roll out of the way, and then PTL for either a boost/Barrel roll (whichever he didn't already take), or evade.

His text is _just fine_ as it is. He's a slippery pilot that is hell to pin down.

Lt. Lorrir should not need to stress himself to use his ability, like the more recently designed Blue Ace. An EPT would be nice but not necessary on a low-cost pilot like him; I just want to pull some fancy barrel roll shenanigans and not lock myself into a green maneuver the following turn.

Wes Jansen's ability is devastating. Veteran instincts, r3-a2, and engine.

I watched many phantoms fall to that combo, and have seen many interceptors go belly up due to double stress.

Torkil Mux is already good. Doesn't need changing.

I agree, but I do constantly feel like that is the only way you ever want to fly him. It'd be nice to have a guy that got to make some use of his own ability.

Not saying he needs it, just that I am not against that one. It's a minor buff, but it would make him more attractive.

Wes Jansen's ability is devastating. Veteran instincts, r3-a2, and engine.

I watched many phantoms fall to that combo, and have seen many interceptors go belly up due to double stress.

Torkil Mux is already good. Doesn't need changing.

I agree, but I do constantly feel like that is the only way you ever want to fly him. It'd be nice to have a guy that got to make some use of his own ability.

Not saying he needs it, just that I am not against that one. It's a minor buff, but it would make him more attractive.

I like this. Most people don't want to say there are auto-includes and I guess nothing is exactly that. But there are combinations that most feel are foolish not to take. ;)

I have to disagree about Turr Phennir. You fly into someones face, blast them and then roll out of arc. How is that bad? Because it doesn't work against aces? Well dang.If you took PTL, well then have fun moving in the combat phase like your name is Dash Rendar! Pah!

Also not getting the Fels Wrath hate. The guy doesn't die until the end of the round. Why is that bad? Is that bad? Or is it bad by virtue of not being PTL?

I think a lot of pilots get glossed over once people read that orange number.

Wes Jansen's ability is devastating. Veteran instincts, r3-a2, and engine.

I watched many phantoms fall to that combo, and have seen many interceptors go belly up due to double stress.

Torkil Mux is already good. Doesn't need changing.

I agree, but I do constantly feel like that is the only way you ever want to fly him. It'd be nice to have a guy that got to make some use of his own ability.

Not saying he needs it, just that I am not against that one. It's a minor buff, but it would make him more attractive.

I like this. Most people don't want to say there are auto-includes and I guess nothing is exactly that. But there are combinations that most feel are foolish not to take. ;)

There are things pilots_were_meant_to_use

Like poe and focus-eater regen droid, Horn and FCS, Ceptor and PTL, Kath and Mangler, Horton and TLT+Prottorp, Rental and smiley droid

autoincludes? yes. Because efficiency is the key word.

maybe some pilots could use a hand and get the synergic abilities that would make them viable

Edited by Warpman

I picked 3 that I think could use a little love and wouldn't need much re-wording.

Elusiveness

Main Issue: 1 dice reroll, can't use while stressed.

Simplest fix: remove the 'can't use while stressed' restriction. Keep the '1 dice per attack' restriction.

Thoughts: It's still not great, but it might have a place on Tycho, or something like that. Exchanging potentially a lot of future actions for a slight defensive increase now might be worth 2 points.

Marksmenship

Main Issue: The problem with marksmanship is that it is a slightly better focus on the attack, and not a focus on the defense, which is arguably neutral overall, while costing about as much as a free action.

Simplest fix: add the text "Perform a free target lock action"

Thoughts: If we go by the approximation 3 points = free action, then we add a free action to the EPT. This would help action economy with ordnance, pairs well with cluster missiles, and is thematically in line with the offensive nature of the name. Might be broken with ships that do not have the target lock action available, though given it forces them into offense only, I don't think it's that big of a deal.

Arvel Crynyd

Main Issue: Against high PS, he needs to try and block them, against low PS, he is effectively actionless if he is using his ability.

Simplest fix: Add text "You may perform actions if you overlap enemy ships"

Thoughts: Can use actions only against enemy ships, so you couldn't bump your own ship to still get actions. Allows him to actively crash into enemy ships and not lose anything for it.

Edited by Rividius

Fels wrath needs... something.

didn't it get nerfed last FAQ?

I disagree about Turr. He's an amazing pilot, and his ability is killer (Joust a Squint into an enemy formation and then use ability + PtL to get out of arc?? Yes please!). His main problem is lack of PS but I think as we start to see a PS drop, he will become extremely useful again.

Now if I could get my EPTs and re-worked abilities on Lorrir and Wrath.........

This got me thinking.

Should every name pilot have an EPT? Interceptor or otherwise.

Now, We all love our EPTceptors with autothrusters, royal guard title and extra cream, with a side order of a cookie. Maybe a bagel if you are at Tims.

But is this the only way an interceptor should be run? It's the most efficient and effective sure, but maybe an alternative should be created, a price efficient non EPT straight-ceptor.

It Fel's and Lorrir can be faq'ed to just be lower price... possibly even alphaceptors and avengerceptors down a point or two...

This got me thinking.

Should every name pilot have an EPT? Interceptor or otherwise.

Now, We all love our EPTceptors with autothrusters, royal guard title and extra cream, with a side order of a cookie. Maybe a bagel if you are at Tims.

But is this the only way an interceptor should be run? It's the most efficient and effective sure, but maybe an alternative should be created, a price efficient non EPT straight-ceptor.

It Fel's and Lorrir can be faq'ed to just be lower price... possibly even alphaceptors and avengerceptors down a point or two...

Either Lorrir needs to be cheaper, or he needs to get an EPT, and the stress generated from his ability has to go either way. I'm not even gonna try and figure out how to re-work Wrath.

-currently-, ints don't do very well without PTL, do they..?

there might be other ways to see them on the table; increase their health, lower their price, further increase mobility.. many roads that lead to rome.

the thing is: ATM there is little reason to grab an int without ept (read: ptl), and that's a pity. -some way- that should (and probably will) be changed.

ept/ptl is just one easy and obvious avenue - but it's not the only hope. there is another..

(several actually) :P