New "Factions"?

By ajd1019, in X-Wing

Does anybody find it mildly amusing that FFG have wholeheartedly embraced new ships from a new period set 30+ years after the OT, but are unwilling to even entertain the thought of anything from the prequel trilogy?

I know there's some massive hate for the movies, but some of the ships could be interesting additions to the game. It's not like they can say the ships are too old. The Firespray and the YT-1300 date back to then and appeared in those movies.

Actually no considering the direction the Star Wars franchise has taken both FFG and Disney. The Star Wars franchise has propelled FFG to 2nd place on the table top gaming miniatures market only being bested by Warhammer 40k. That's rather astonishing in a few short years they have almost caught up to leading competitor over a decade old. As for Disney they are doing what they do best, buy an IP with a cult following (such as Marvel) and make it have a broad appeal to general audiences all while collecting their cut from the merchandising. For Disney they see X-wing as another way to make some additional money through royalties while generating more hype and promotion for their new movies. Since they own the Franchise FFG has to get within Disney's good graces to continue the X-wing series, and if that means making ships from Disney movies/shows (TFA, Rebels, Clone Wars) then FFG will do exactly that. Even if FFG has to pay royalties to Disney they still make alot of profit from product sales.

So will FFG make more ships from the new movies, of course because that's what Disney wants and as long as they have the licenses from Disney they will continue to do whatever Disney tells the to do. Will FFG start making prequel ships, only if Disney wants it and that depends if Disney thinks they could make some money from the prequels (such as releasing a complete overhaul of episodes 1 through 3).

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Will all the subfactions be split and there be an alliance wheel in which factions can take ships from a neighbor but not from both, so like a Galactic empire can take First Order ships while Rebel alliance can take a Galactic Republic ship. Again these questions are quite some time away before they need an answer but they are questions that will come up and who knows what the answer will be.

I could see a couple years from now when there would be a New Republic sub faction (The New Republic does exist in episode 7, and it is a separate thing from the Resistance). And the rule might be that the New Republic and Resistance ships can partner with Rebel ships, but not one another.

I don't merely hate the prequels, I loathe them. Releasing prequel ships would put me in a terrible position: do I buy a ship just for the cards and then smash it with a hammer, or just never get those cards?

X-Wing would cease to be fun.

I can live without prequel ships, but posts like this really make me hope they're included as soon as possible.

Since this turned into a prequel thing

1.) Prequels sucked BAD as movies. The ships would remind everyone of that, and it's not the best idea to attatch a successful project to those horrid things

2.) The aesthetic doesn't match at all, outside of ships taken from the OT (firespray) or not actually seen in the movies (scyks)

Those would be the two big arguments against them.

The argument for them is "who cares? Cool ships!"

I'm of the opinion that theres nothing in there particularly worth bringing over, what with ep 7 and REBELs filling in the need for more ships

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I could see a couple years from now when there would be a New Republic sub faction (The New Republic does exist in episode 7, and it is a separate thing from the Resistance).

While we know it does exist after Endor we don't know if it exists by the time of TFA yet.

Since this turned into a prequel thing

1.) Prequels sucked BAD as movies. The ships would remind everyone of that, and it's not the best idea to attach a successful project to those horrid things

Says you. Not everyone thinks that. While I don't see it happening this is a stupid reason for it not to.

Says anyone with a basic understanding of narrative

Those were NOT good movies by any standard other than spectacle

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Prequel fan here. I can't afford prequel ships at the moment, but I wouldn't mind seeing them in 2-3 years when I've graduated and have a steady job. The prequels are fine. Do I smack my head at some of the missed opportunities? Yes. But if given a chance to watch any non-Star Wars movie, I would choose to watch any of the prequels over that non-Star Wars movie (unless it's a movie I haven't seen before, in which case I will watch it once before going back to my beloved Star Wars films).

Along these same lines, how long will it be until we start to see "prequel trilogy" ships/ factions?

Don't hold your breath. FFG CEO himself has said their focus is the civil war forward, not backwards.

There's a thin line between FOCUS and "to hell with all the rest"

p.s. they will run out of ships in a couple of waves

Along these same lines, how long will it be until we start to see "prequel trilogy" ships/ factions?

Don't hold your breath. FFG CEO himself has said their focus is the civil war forward, not backwards.

There's a thin line between FOCUS and "to hell with all the rest"

p.s. they will run out of ships in a couple of waves

So far they have said to "hell with all the rest" and he was very clear in what he said. I recommend watching the video. It is on Team Covenants YouTube channel, interview with Christian from Worlds 2014.

P.S. People have been saying that for a few waves now, hasn't come true yet.

Says anyone with a basic understanding of narrative

Those were NOT good movies by any standard other than spectacle

Don't forget continuity!

After seeing Force Awakens, it doesn't seem like the Resistance and Rebels should be in the same faction.

Stop reading if you want to avoid spoilers.

The Rebellion, aka, the Alliance to Restore the Republic, became the New Republic. As the New Republic, they tolerated the Resistance. But according to sourcebooks, they were not one and the same.

As for the First Order, they seem more fanatical than the Galactic Empire. The First Order emerged from the hardliners that were the Imperial Remnants. The First Order and Galactic Empire would not necessarily see eye-to-eye on many things.

Putting these groups together would be like putting the Old Republic of the Clone Wars with the Galactic Empire of Galactic Civil War. And the Separatist with the Rebels.

Officially there will be FO/Empire and Rebel/Resistance forever in this game at tournament level and in the playbook.

You can do whatever you want at your house. Have them be separate factions if you like at home. Whatever makes you happy.

There would need to be A LOT more Resistance / FO ships than there are now.

Remember the last 2 Trilogies represented large inter-galactic factions: the Republic vs the CIS and the Empire vs the Rebel Alliance. The First Order vs the Resistance is more like 2 warlords going out after each other - granted one is much better funded than the other.

Remember the Empire, Scum (In particular the Hutts) and Rebel Alliance are the largest 3 galactic factions. Unless something changes in future stories the Resistance / FO are going to remain sub factions.