I would take her with a blank text box any day.

Yeah, really good stats. Ranged makes it better. The ability can be superb, and especially for all those treacheries that read (and often trigger that way), if there is something/nothing, it gains surge. I like the art as well.

Never mind, my mistake

Yeah, really good stats. Ranged makes it better. The ability can be superb, and especially for all those treacheries that read (and often trigger that way), if there is something/nothing, it gains surge. I like the art as well.

I wonder if it'll count, because she reads "when encounter card with surge is revealed"... Does optional surge counts? Because cards with optional surge are not initially "cards with surge". I would prefer if she would read "after a Surge keyword is triggered".

Also, Ranger of North

Yeah, really good stats. Ranged makes it better. The ability can be superb, and especially for all those treacheries that read (and often trigger that way), if there is something/nothing, it gains surge. I like the art as well.

I wonder if it'll count, because she reads "when encounter card with surge is revealed"... Does optional surge counts? Because cards with optional surge are not initially "cards with surge". I would prefer if she would read "after a Surge keyword is triggered".

Also, Ranger of North

This was my intention to start this topic in the rule section: https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/201414-new-lanwyn-hero-response/

Yeah, really good stats. Ranged makes it better. The ability can be superb, and especially for all those treacheries that read (and often trigger that way), if there is something/nothing, it gains surge. I like the art as well.

I wonder if it'll count, because she reads "when encounter card with surge is revealed"... Does optional surge counts? Because cards with optional surge are not initially "cards with surge". I would prefer if she would read "after a Surge keyword is triggered".

Also, Ranger of North

The cards "gain surge" so it's like they are there form the beginning. Otherwise they would have written "cards with a printed "surge""

I believe they say the card "gains surge", so I would assume it'll count but of course clarifications are helpful.

Idraen and Theoden are both 2/3/2/4. Those are combat stats in Spirit. For me, sphere identity is more about theme and ability. You can't build an entire combat-focused Blue deck without basing it around their core identity - attacking the staging area, threat management to selectively engage, action advantage. Just like a mono-Lore combat deck feels like a sphere-focused control deck.

I don't see why her ability wouldn't happen due to cards that "gain surge". I'm fairly certain Minas Tirith Lampwright's ability can be triggered as a result of cards that gain surge as well, although, I suppose I don't know if that has been officially ruled on or not.

I'm pretty sure you can use her response with a card gaining surge. Otherwise the cards would have been worded like ' When a card with the printed keyword surge is revealed'.

But i don't know when the response triggers. For example, if a treachery with Surge and an effect dealing damage to all exhausted characters is revealed, can I trigger the response and ready Lanwyn before the when revealed effect applies?

Like this one :

http://hallofbeorn.com/Cards/Details/Take-Cover-VoI

First spirit character with ranged

And again a FFG created hero on the 2d AP.
Like Mirlonde, and Idraen and Rossiel :-)

Late to the party, but wow, Lanwyn is bonkers. (Even if her name seems more Rohan than Dale to me.). She is what Idraen should have been.

As far as lamenting tactics I've given up. I think the designers have too.

I'm pretty sure you can use her response with a card gaining surge. Otherwise the cards would have been worded like ' When a card with the printed keyword surge is revealed'.

But i don't know when the response triggers. For example, if a treachery with Surge and an effect dealing damage to all exhausted characters is revealed, can I trigger the response and ready Lanwyn before the when revealed effect applies?

Like this one :

http://hallofbeorn.com/Cards/Details/Take-Cover-VoI

She says "after" a card is revealed, which at the very earliest places it after the When Revealed effect.

Late to the party, but wow, Lanwyn is bonkers. (Even if her name seems more Rohan than Dale to me.). She is what Idraen should have been.

Didn't the Rohirrim originally descend into Rohan from the upper vales of the Anduin? There could be some genetic or cultural similarities there. Unless I'm forgetting where the Men of Dale came from.

Late to the party, but wow, Lanwyn is bonkers. (Even if her name seems more Rohan than Dale to me.). She is what Idraen should have been.

As far as lamenting tactics I've given up. I think the designers have too.

Her name sounds more Celtic-Welsh to me than Old English, but I see the similarity to Eowyn.

Maybe she's another Lannister.

So is Lanwyn going to have a Warden of Arnor-esque unique attachment?

'Response: When an encounter card is revealed but before resolving any of that card's keywords or "when revealed" effects, exhaust this attachment to have that card gain Surge.'

(I just thought I'd design a card that would cause even more grief than Grima...)

So is Lanwyn going to have a Warden of Arnor-esque unique attachment?

'Response: When an encounter card is revealed but before resolving any of that card's keywords or "when revealed" effects, exhaust this attachment to have that card gain Surge.'

(I just thought I'd design a card that would cause even more grief than Grima...)

Sounds like an awful card and I love Grima

Where all those tactics-only enthusiasts were when 2/3/1/3 Ranged Lore Haldir got released? And that one can attack the staging area too, which to me is more of a Spirit thing to do. And speaking of something "tactics only", out of 3 printed ranged Tactics heroes, only legolas is at the threat cost of 9, other two guys are 10 and 11. It won't change one thing: tactics has a lot of stuff to pump that ranged stuff into oblivion, and spirit has little to none. And that's where true sphere identity lies.

I don't see the point in describing the game as is since I was talking about what I would prefer. It seems to me you yourself do that quite often. I think it is a shame that Legolas is the only 9 threat ranged hero in tactics. By the way the Outlands hero is also ranged for 8 threat in leadership, which annoys me. Look, basically I think any stats can be available to any hero in any sphere. I would just prefer if only high threat heroes had off color stats. So, red would have the low threat high attack, spirit would have low threat high wp. I also think ranged should be common in red, but rare and high threat cost in other colors. I don't run the company or the game design so my opinion doesn't matter, but that doesn't mean it's silly or ig oran of the game. I will still probably use her and enjoy the game.

It seems unlikely that she'll have any specific support in this pack. Two Spirit cards from the pack have already been spoiled (Sam and Elevenses) and this pack only has eight (non-hero) player cards. If she had an attachment designed to fit with her, it would almost certainly have to be neutral, which means another sphere would only get one player card. Shadow and Flame is the only previous adventure pack with less than 2 cards in a given sphere: Hands Upon the Bow was the only Tactics card. (Although, to be fair, this is the first adventure pack with only eight player cards. There are also saga expansions with only one card in a given sphere.)

Do we know that Lanwyn comes from this (The Thing from the Depths) pack? How?

She is in a card fan with other Thing in the Depths cards, and the caption at the bottom says The Thing in the Depths.

I love that her "Ranged" attack is her falcon!

Nice catch. An actual falcon attachment that plays on a Scout would be so cool.

I love that her "Ranged" attack is her falcon!

Yep pretty awesome, reminds me of Mordecai in Borderlands!

Her flavour text/quote seems to reference the men of dale using birds or falcons as messengers and having some sort of trick that allowed them to understand the birds. Perhaps this concept of being more connected to animals and the ability to use them (maybe just birds but perhaps birds, oxen, even wolves trained to be guard animals or whatever) more effectively as weapons or tools than say Rohan, Gondor etc is a cool identity they could potentially give to Dale.

This is totally random, but I subscribe to a channel on Youtube called SciShow, and the host Hank Green regularly interviews this woman Jessi from a local zoo who brings on various animals. It's as if she posed for the art of Lanwyn (skip to 12:11). I'm never going to be able to look at Lanwyn without seeing the connection, kind of like Elrond ally and Steven Seagal.