They have multiple outstanding rules issues and an incomplete tournament document. Wave 2 was delayed for a fairly long time, there is absolutely no reason these things we're not ready to roll out with release. They are at this point more then aware of the delay LFL approval can have on disseminating information, not being infront of a long standing issue (across multiple products) is just bad business.
Edited by ScottieATFOK FFG!! Where is the updated FAQ and new Margins
Hopefully they'll FAQ Akbar, clearly the additional 2 red dice was a misprint, it should be 3
Apparently this is where trolls come to feed. Don't respond to the troll and it gets bored and wanders off (they have really short attention spans)
I could always come back if you want me to.
Im sure everyone would thank you for provoking me to come back and get more likes on my posts than theirs. (Since Im right)
...and they would have you to thank.
Or you can just be silent and allow the troll to simply bow out when he has instead of attempting "last word" shenanigans.
Whats also funny is all the likes my posts are getting while you all keep whining at me.
Thanks peeps!
That will never be as funny as someone online being genuinely excited about collecting internet points.
Wait. . . these are internet points? I stopped caring after constantly getting 20+ almost every day from the time I go to sleep and wake up. They are just ways to gauge how much people agree with what I think which is nice but I don't need it.
I understand people are upset about this. There was a vassal tournament that modified the points for 400 based on what people think will be the new amount.
In fact I am not sure if the points really need to be changed by too much. It is still an amount based on your kills and tokens vs their kills and tokens.
I'm sorry, what is the confusion with the "contain" token? Isn't the rule there in the insert for the MC80 and ISD? Seemed pretty straight forward to me in that it cancels a standard crit effect...
Also, my psychic powers say that FFG is going to release this stuff reeeel soooon. Personally I have my plastic spaceships (finally) and having been in the business of publishing things, sometimes its just more streamlined and less painful if you compile everything and publish all at once, so an updated FAQ and chart and blah blah blah (especially if they happen to reference each other and depend on several contributors) should be released together and coherently and if taking a little longer to do that saves retractions, republishing and confusion....so be it.
I imagine ScottieATF is right, and FFG is caught up with the Disney/LFL maelstrom of TFA about to be released, that they can't make things happen.
As far as the political-not-political/troll-not-troll, who is/not entitled, please keep that going. It's very entertaining.
I imagine ScottieATF is right, and FFG is caught up with the Disney/LFL maelstrom of TFA about to be released, that they can't make things happen.
If the release of TFA is somehow impeding FFG from releasing, of all things, a scoring table for wave two of a game release, I shudder to think how cumbersome the entire Disney/LFL apparatus must be.
As far as the political-not-political/troll-not-troll, who is/not entitled, please keep that going. It's very entertaining.
It's really not.
I imagine ScottieATF is right, and FFG is caught up with the Disney/LFL maelstrom of TFA about to be released, that they can't make things happen.
Knowing how controlling Disney can be, I'm not surprised. Things will settle down in January once TFA is out in the open.
I could always come back if you want me to.
Im sure everyone would thank you for provoking me to come back and get more likes on my posts than theirs. (Since Im right)
...and they would have you to thank.
Or you can just be silent and allow the troll to simply bow out when he has instead of attempting "last word" shenanigans.
Hopefully they'll FAQ Akbar, clearly the additional 2 red dice was a misprint, it should be 3
Though it was to be 2 black dice
Apparently this is where trolls come to feed. Don't respond to the troll and it gets bored and wanders off (they have really short attention spans)
What?
Oh sorry I got bored and wondered off. 
I imagine ScottieATF is right, and FFG is caught up with the Disney/LFL maelstrom of TFA about to be released, that they can't make things happen.
That could be. But more likely it's as Slugrage said. FFG releases FAQ's based on their own Organized Play schedule, and not based on when a wave is released.
With X-Wing it's pretty well established that waves released between seasons won't get a FAQ update until the next season is getting close.
The fact that people are having casual tournaments or that a new wave has been released doesn't factor into when FFG releases a FAQ or tournament rules.
Then why not simply answer the already pending rules questions?
They don't want to answer questions prior to a products release, OK fine it makes sense. Maybe the previewed cards aren't the correct wording or any number of other reasons.
That stance starts to make less sense when you pre-release material, but ok still it hasn't been released so they won't answer any questions.
So now stuff has been released, so why not just answer? The idea that FFG has put forward that they want to compile all the various questions they been receiving prior to Wave 2's release for the FAQ doesn't work if you are going to release Wave 2 in November but sit on the FAQ until near Store Championships in February.
The Tournament Rules can and should have been updated on release of Wave 2 with the proper MoV Chart. This is a different situation then X-wing as none of X-Wing releases resulted in a shift in game size or a change in scoring (any changes in scoring were independent of any releases). And if they want to hold off on the FAQ until closer to the event season, then they need to be willing to answer the already asked questiins. They should not be leaving abilities and effects up in the air.
It is just bad policy on FFGs part.
Then why not simply answer the already pending rules questions?
I don't know, I don't work for FFG so I'm not privy to their policies and timelines. But I know that they tend to release FAQ's and updated tournament rules based on the OP seasons. So they won't bother releasing anything until it gets closer to the start of 2016's OP's season.
It is just bad policy on FFGs part.
Perhaps, but it does seem to be their policy, so any comments about them being lazy or dropping the ball are completely untrue. It's not that they haven't bothered, it's that they do in fact have a policy in place and they will follow that policy regardless of what we think of it.
Don't like the policy? Then email the OP people and let them know.
Hopefully they'll FAQ Akbar, clearly the additional 2 red dice was a misprint, it should be 3
That's not funny. We expressly forbid the rebels to have anything bigger than water pistols.
For making such a heinous suggestion...
A policy can still be lazy, and you can still be dropping the ball with that policy. Because they are dropping the ball that is why I described it as a bad policy. Just having a policy doesn't absolve you from the ramifications of that policy.
Additionally emailing OP is not the only effective way to communicate with FFG, they do also read these forums. Though they won't respond on here. Not that you will get anything of substance in response to emails.
Edited by ScottieATFBecause they are dropping the ball that is why I described it as a bad policy.
Since neither of us know the reason behind the policy, we can't actually judge it. They may have a very good reason for doing what they do.
Given FFG's track record I'm more than willing to give them the benefit of a doubt, on why they do things they way they do. So no they're not dropping the ball, they just aren't doing what you want.
Because they are dropping the ball that is why I described it as a bad policy.
Since neither of us know the reason behind the policy, we can't actually judge it. They may have a very good reason for doing what they do.
Given FFG's track record I'm more than willing to give them the benefit of a doubt, on why they do things they way they do. So no they're not dropping the ball, they just aren't doing what you want.
I can appreciate your diplomatic standpoint, but I must disagree strongly.
400 point tournaments are happening and there is no official MoV chart for them.
Winter tournament kits are in hand... and there is no 400 pt MoV chart.
That is the very definition of dropping the ball. (in this context)
Edited by Tvayumat400 point tournaments are happening and there is no official MoV chart for them.
But there aren't any official tournaments happening. It's clearly FFG's stance that they release FAQ's and tournament rules updates only when needed to support the OP season.
That means they won't release it until it's closer to start of the store championship season. It is not a matter of dropping the ball when they have a completely valid reason for doing something a given way.
Dropping the ball is when you should've done something and didn't. In this case they shouldn't release the FAQ and new MoV chart until their policy says to do so. If you don't like or agree with the policy that's fine. But that doesn't mean they're doing anything wrong, or worse lazy.
400 point tournaments are happening and there is no official MoV chart for them.
But there aren't any official tournaments happening. It's clearly FFG's stance that they release FAQ's and tournament rules updates only when needed to support the OP season.
That means they won't release it until it's closer to start of the store championship season. It is not a matter of dropping the ball when they have a completely valid reason for doing something a given way.
Dropping the ball is when you should've done something and didn't. In this case they shouldn't release the FAQ and new MoV chart until their policy says to do so. If you don't like or agree with the policy that's fine. But that doesn't mean they're doing anything wrong, or worse lazy.
So, the argument is that, regardless of the release of wave two, their intent is for people to continue playing tournaments at 300 pts until the arbitrarily set date when they release updated tournament rules?
I'm still struggling to define that as anything other than the dropping of one or more balls.
Calling it wrong opens up a huge debate about what constitutes wrong in a business sense, lazy implies knowledge we can't have, so let's just call it "Bad for the players".
This policy is bad for the players.
Edited by TvayumatIf someone chooses to run a 400 point tournament right now, then it's still outside of the official FFG schedule. The Winter 2016 kits specifically list January 1st through March 31st for their run time. I get that folks are eager to get going with them, and that's entirely understandable, but it's not January 1st yet. I'm sure they'll be out in time. In the mean time, go fly casual and get ready to celebrate Wookie Life Day.
From: https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/10/2/2016-star-wars-armada-store-championships/
Retailers are invited to apply now for next year’s Store Championship season, running from January 1st through March 31st, 2016. Store Championships are local events with a competitive atmosphere and serve as the first step toward our annual World Championships in November.
Slugrage, good point! I didn't know that the current tournaments were unofficial. So the new MOV chart isn't really late until 2016.
So, the argument is that
No, you clearly aren't getting my point.
My point is that FFG doesn't care how you score non-sanctioned games, or how many points they are. As far as they seem to care, the OP events are the only ones that they are going to worry about supporting.
I'm still struggling to define that as anything other than the dropping of one or more balls.
Dropping a ball would be for the FAQ and new MoV chart to be released after the OP season begins. Because until then all tournaments are effectively casual friendly events.
This policy is bad for the players.
Why? Tournaments played now doesn't really mean anything. So who cares if they aren't scored perfectly? For FFG to have dropped the ball, would require that there was some sort of condition they haven't met when it was due.
But per FFG policy the new FAQ and MoV chart isn't due yet, in fact it's not due until the OP season starts. You or I may not care for that policy but that does seem to be the policy. It's a fairly constant issue with X-Wing as well this time of the year.
So this whole notion that FFG is late with the FAQ and MoV change is quite simply incorrect, like a Wizard it is neither early or late, but arrives exactly when it means to. The fact that you don't like the timing doesn't actually change anything.
Yes, yes.
I get it.
Arbitrary dates have been set and, apparently, questioning the will of the almighty FFG is tantamount to blasphemy.
I guess it just seems silly to me to release the wave a full month in advance of the rules that will allow us to play with said wave in any official capacity.
You'd have to have wool in your ears to be unaware that 400 pt wave 2 tournaments have been eagerly awaited since release.