Hi everyone, I have a different post on IG-88 squad building, but I need some help. I like using B and C, but I only have 1 Advanced Sensors, meaning, I can't make a B,C. This is my new squad, B,D. Tell me what you think. If you have anything to make it better, tell me. Just remember, I don't have many expansions . . . Yet.
-Iggy B
Opportunist
HLC
Inertial Dampners
Autothrusters
IG-2000 (Title)
-Iggy D
Opportunist
HLC
Inertial Dampners
Autothrusters
IG-2000 (Title)
Another option would be to, replace Opportunists with Predators, and then add a Seismic Charge.
The Predator build is more standard. Typically you don't want your Aggressors stressed (says the current group-think), but they do have plenty of green ...
The thing is, you do have to strip their tokens first. That means you need to attack with your normal HLC first and hope that it doesn't deal damage. If they spend their tokens to negate your attack, you get a second attack with B's ability and can use Opportunist on that one to get your 5 dice.
The problem I foresee is that people have learned not to spend tokens if it will negate all damage, thus preventing a second attack from the Aggressors. They'd rather take 1 hit than risk taking 4. With Opportunist, you push that even more. And you'd have to choose whether to spend your focus/target lock on the first attack or just hope they spend a token and hope your first attack misses so you can spend your tokens on the second attack.
All things considered, it seems to situational. I think I'd much prefer to go the Predator route. Predator will work on both attacks and it won't leave you stressed.
One question, what about spending the card on the first attack instead? If you roll 5 attack dice on attack one, that might put more pressure to block it, then attack again with 4.
Anybody?
This guy has had an incredible win streak with brobots and he does not play them at all like anyone I've seen but it works incredibly well - though he himself said the list wasn't fun to be on the receiving end - though that doesn't mean he won every single game (though he went 4-0 at our local store tournament today) Its got incredible control options and flexibility
IG88-B & IG88-C both with the same upgrades as follow:
IG-2000
Predator
Advanced Sensors
Ion Cannon
Ion Bombs
Inertial Dampeners
Autothrusters
As for card availability - I don't think it really matters unless you go into a tournament so print some out/proxy them until you can have the real cards in your collection?
Edited by KalandrosOne question, what about spending the card on the first attack instead? If you roll 5 attack dice on attack one, that might put more pressure to block it, then attack again with 4.
With 5 dice (and if you spend your focus token or target lock) you're not likely to miss. Even if they have a steallar defensive roll, you may end up dealing 1 damage and then you're stressed without a second attack and not much to show for your first attack.
If you roll average, you're getting 3-4 damage with a modified 5-dice attack. A 3-agility defender with a focus token is likely to roll 1-2 natural evades. If they spend the focus token, they're more likely to hit 2, but it's still no guarantee. You can see that you likely won't get your second attack. And if you roll poorly, they just won't spend the focus token to ensure they take just a single damage.
Anybody?
When you were posting in the general forum, I could understand posts like these because if you didn't bump your own thread, it would get lost. Now that you're posting in the proper section, you don't have to worry about that as much. This subforum moves much slower, so it's not likely that your thread will get buried. It could take a week or more.
With that said, I think a general rule of thumb is that you should give people about 24 hours to respond to your post before you start begging for replies. This is especially true in the Squad building subforum because people just don't come here as often. But when they do, they're interested in threads like this, whereas threads like this just clutter up the main forum.
Pay close attention to the wording of IG-88b's ability as it is "gunner like" not actually gunner:
"Once per round, after you perform an attack that does not hit, you may perform an attack with an equipped Cannon secondary weapon." (emphasis added)
this means there might be crits in your first attack that they want to avoid, but more likely you'll have to do the stripping with one ship's guns to get the opportunity for the other to do his thing. Which leads into my suggestion for you...
Why not fly asymmetrical? An illustration of different builds for the two bots like so:
IG-88B
- Opportunist
- Autoblaster
- Heavy Laser Cannon
- Autothrusters
- IG-2000
(54pts)
IG-88C
- Predator
- Mangler Cannon
- Advanced Sensors
- Autothrusters
- IG-2000
(46pts)
This particular list might not be viable ( let me know if you try it out! ) but it illustrates my point that the two don't have to be identical. It would require using an asymmetrical strategy since the two ships are not interchangeable in the way they engage enemies. That alone might surprise a couple people enough to give an edge, but most of the time it would be making you work harder too. Just make sure you get them equipped in ways that they still advantage each other's abilities.
Anybody got any good ideas with the cards I have?
http://xwing-miniatu...X-Wing_Core_Set
http://xwing-miniatu..._Expansion_Pack
http://xwing-miniatu..._Expansion_Pack
http://xwing-miniatu..._Expansion_Pack
http://xwing-miniatu..._Expansion_Pack
http://xwing-miniatu..._Expansion_Pack
http://xwing-miniatu..._Expansion_PackX2
http://xwing-miniatu..._Expansion_Pack
http://xwing-miniatu..._Expansion_PackX2
Look through there and tell me what you think would work.
Can you guys help me out, please?
No one?
Epixca, relax. You'll get a reply. It may take a while. As for me I have flown the IG only twice so I can't offer much in the way of valid information. Some of the best minds are either working or sleeping right now so give them 24 hrs.
I feel like you're practically swimming in good ideas. I think the next step is for you to fly them and then report back to us on what did and didn't work. Did you face any problems? Did something seem underpowered or not pulling its weight? The time for theorizing is coming to a close. It's time to spread your wings, little fledgling. Fly on! Fly on!
[seriously, though, I am looking forward to hearing how these squads work for you.
Also, one of these days I'd like to see you post a list and then explain and justify why you included each pilot and each upgrade in the list. What is it doing in the list? How will you use it? Beginning to think through these things for yourself will help you develop squad-building skills on your own and give you more satisfaction from your games as you see your plans come to fruition.]
Thanks, man! I will report back.
Think I got something here!
-B
HLC
Autothrusters
Predator
Dampners
Title
-C
Mangler
Autothrusters
PTL
Advanced Sensors
Seismic Charges
Dampners
Title
Tell me if you like it, I can replace both Dampners with 1 Glitterstim on 1 of them.
Anybody wanna comment?
Think I got something here!
-B
HLC
Autothrusters
Predator
Dampners
Title
-C
Mangler
Autothrusters
PTL
Advanced Sensors
Seismic Charges
Dampners
Title
Tell me if you like it, I can replace both Dampners with 1 Glitterstim on 1 of them.
I don't see why it wouldn't work. Keeping your IG-88 builds different makes it tougher on your opponent, I think. It can also make it tough for you, but if you practice a few times, you'll get used to how to fly it and your opponent may not know how to tackle it. That said, both are pretty typical builds, so having them different may not give you too much of an advantage.
I think I might take Seismic Charges off IG-88C and put Glitterstim on IG-88B instead. Glitterstim will work well with Predator and it also means you can shore up B's defenses for a round if he gets cornered by the opponent.
Overall, though, I really like the list.