The ISD made me. . .

By Lyraeus, in Star Wars: Armada

Drybrush some carbon scoring over those slashes and baby, you've got a stew going.

**** it, I cut out your actual quote. The plain Jane one.

Well, I accidentally cut out your whole post so that sucks.

Anyway, I have given all of my ships a custom paint job so far. I'm going to do it with the ISDs too, I just haven't settled on what.

You monster.

That is the closest to what I see as "realistic" battle damage I have seen so far at least the scale of the damage. If you consider the relative speed of the ships involved with the fact that most engagements happen on the plane of whatever system they are in along with the typical 'MO" of rebel tactics, especially at the time of the rebellion, I think it is more reasonable to assume damage would look more along the lines of "///, ||||, \\\" or something similar.

In essence, the rebels are playing a game of "survive until its shields are down" (usually due to TRS) at which point their bigger ships move in to concentrate fire on the ISD batteries. After all ISDs are huge and just straight blowing the thing up would require a lot of energy, however stripping the thing of it's teeth is a much more attainable goal.

That is for Imperial damage anyway, representing Rebel damage is to my mind a bit trickier. If I recall correctly the Empire went with a more "shoot every gun at everything till it is dead" approach.

Well you have to consider that you have smaller ships going up and over and down and under. This is space after all so situations like that occur. The damage is minimal or looks that way but the way I did the damage was to make what would look like major damage on a GSD or VSD would look pitiful on the ISD. So I used a lapel pin instead of the drill bit I used on these ships.

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You monster.

The Grim Justice squadron is on a special mission from Palpatine himself. They were given this scheme so that their authority is paramount in their area as well as to be a frightening sight to those running from them. The black hull and the blood red plates inspire fear and visions of death in those who gaze upon them as they flee the Justice these ships deal out.

**** it, I cut out your actual quote. The plain Jane one.

Well, I accidentally cut out your whole post so that sucks.

Anyway, I have given all of my ships a custom paint job so far. I'm going to do it with the ISDs too, I just haven't settled on what.

I don't trust myself not to make it just terrible, instead of potentially cool. I'll stick to just paint for now.

I don't trust myself not to make it just terrible, instead of potentially cool. I'll stick to just paint for now.

99120101088_StormravenNEW_02.jpg This was back when they were $20 cheaper. . . I did it to do melta damage and acid damage as well as traitior Lasguns. I went overboard but it turned out fine. Learned from that.

Since then I have mutilated a Baneblade, my Scars of Freedom space guppy, the GSD, VSD and now the ISD.

If you are worried about over doing it, use the smallest needle possible. It helps a lot.

Oh, and DON'T use a torch lighter. It keeps the metal heated too long. You want shorter heat times so you do t overdo it.

Edited by Lyraeus

Smaller ships have smaller guns. The scoring you put on the ISD is more appropriate to turbolasers than it is laser cannons. Which, at the scale we are looking at you really wouldn't see cannon hits. The bigger turbolaser hits are coming from the bigger capital ships, and they don't over and under. They keep their plane relative to other capital ships for a variety of reasons.

This mind you is all relative to opinion and taste and ultimately arbitrary. More a comment on scale than anything.

Smaller ships have smaller guns. The scoring you put on the ISD is more appropriate to turbolasers than it is laser cannons. Which, at the scale we are looking at you really wouldn't see cannon hits. The bigger turbolaser hits are coming from the bigger capital ships, and they don't over and under. They keep their plane relative to other capital ships for a variety of reasons.

This mind you is all relative to opinion and taste and ultimately arbitrary. More a comment on scale than anything.

In fact I did that lady night against a VSD 2 who was directly in front of my ISD. I cranked speed up to 3 and shot right behind it.

Hi all I don't post very often so not well known hear.

I know that this will be unpopular but I'm not impressed with the ISD at all. I've played for the Empire since the game came out and came second at my local Sullust event. I have been using the VSD on a regular basis since this time and I've found it to be lacklustre at best. I think the rebel wave 2 stuff has been much easier to take advantage of but I'm struggling to get to grips with the Empire's reinforcements.

The ISD just seems to be outgunned by the rebel's and not fear inducing at all.

Hi all I don't post very often so not well known hear.

I know that this will be unpopular but I'm not impressed with the ISD at all. I've played for the Empire since the game came out and came second at my local Sullust event. I have been using the VSD on a regular basis since this time and I've found it to be lacklustre at best. I think the rebel wave 2 stuff has been much easier to take advantage of but I'm struggling to get to grips with the Empire's reinforcements.

The ISD just seems to be outgunned by the rebel's and not fear inducing at all.

Odd. I've loved my VSD ever since release. I love, even more, the raider which gives me a cheaper, faster, flanker to help block those ackbar conga lines and smash my puttering VSD into their flanks.

Hi all I don't post very often so not well known hear.

I know that this will be unpopular but I'm not impressed with the ISD at all. I've played for the Empire since the game came out and came second at my local Sullust event. I have been using the VSD on a regular basis since this time and I've found it to be lacklustre at best. I think the rebel wave 2 stuff has been much easier to take advantage of but I'm struggling to get to grips with the Empire's reinforcements.

The ISD just seems to be outgunned by the rebel's and not fear inducing at all.

Odd. I've loved my VSD ever since release. I love, even more, the raider which gives me a cheaper, faster, flanker to help block those ackbar conga lines and smash my puttering VSD into their flanks.

Anyone know where I can get a precut rebel stencil?

Hi all I don't post very often so not well known hear.

I know that this will be unpopular but I'm not impressed with the ISD at all. I've played for the Empire since the game came out and came second at my local Sullust event. I have been using the VSD on a regular basis since this time and I've found it to be lacklustre at best. I think the rebel wave 2 stuff has been much easier to take advantage of but I'm struggling to get to grips with the Empire's reinforcements.

The ISD just seems to be outgunned by the rebel's and not fear inducing at all.

Odd. I've loved my VSD ever since release. I love, even more, the raider which gives me a cheaper, faster, flanker to help block those ackbar conga lines and smash my puttering VSD into their flanks.

I think Tactics play the biggest part here. I will figure it out I guess.

Anyone know where I can get a precut rebel stencil?

My brother is having the same issues with Rebels. He hated Wave1 rebs and he's not really happy with his lists even in wave 2...I think it's just finding what fits for you. Guess I'm lucky in that I had a nice list I liked for Wave 1 and I just added more bells and whistles with 2.

I think the best bet is to either:

A. Figure out what you want you list to do, and make it happen.

or

B. Play stuff till you see something you like/that clicks.

It takes a lot of practice and testing.

For instance, who knows we that Superior Positions is a great Objective for multi Nebulon-B lists.

Going to go home from work and do some painting before going back to work 7 hours from now. . .

So I bought 2 ISD's today and I wanted to be the first to fly them before letting others try them out (because I am nice like that). . . And I used just 2 heavily upgraded ISD's to destroy a GSD and 2 VSD's. . . I am getting drunk on all this power. . . The Imperial side is so tempting to play now. . . I could paint a rebel symbol on it but I need to find a rebel stencil. . .

now you know why mikael hates rebels so much :P

My disgust for the Rebel cause is not quite so incidental.

Ordnung muß sein, meine Herren, and the Rebellion stands for chaos and nihilism.

Also, as Cubanboy Lyraeus shows, they have no regard for the sacred integrity of the Imperial models. When Imperial models fall into the vicious hands of the Rebellion, you can see what they do to them. They mercilessly apply pins and torches, and not even to extract information from the prisoners, but just out of their perverse sense of "aesthetic", and probably for their own sadistic fun.

Discuss the ISD?? What is there to discuss?? It's an ISD. End of discussion. I don't see myself ever flying without one. Or two. Or all three I've got. Or the fourth one I'm getting.....

Love the battle scars - or as I like to call them, foreshadowing.

Imps always have the rebels outgunned, and the Rebels have the imps outmaneuvered. Wave two gave us some more guns and the imps can now turn a bit.

I feel so loved.

You monster.

Judging me before you even hear the story behind this? You wound me sir.

The Grim Justice squadron is on a special mission from Palpatine himself. They were given this scheme so that their authority is paramount in their area as well as to be a frightening sight to those running from them. The black hull and the blood red plates inspire fear and visions of death in those who gaze upon them as they flee the Justice these ships deal out.

The Empire has legions of slaves who work tirelessly for their very lives, and nearly infinite resources to pay the workers we can't kill, yet you leave your fine ships damaged and scarred in the high service of the Emperor? Your fellows don't feel intimidation, they feel shame for leaving such beautiful effigies of Imperial might as easily vanquished decrepit hulks. This does not suggest the might, the uniformity, and insurmountably that the Empire must exude. It shows carelessness and a mock attitude that no Imperial commander could imagine the Emperor endorsing.

:P

Sorry Lyeris, couldn't help belt out as-character, and It's a little shocking to see you gleefully scarring up a $50 model. Still, I think it could use a little work if you wanted to make it really pop. Accentuate the battle damage with some silver around the scars, get some blackening (or grey?) around the blast craters, and try to off-color some of the panels by a few shades. Highlighting (or at least drybrushing) can help bring out the accents.

Going mono-color loses a lot of the detail, I have some of that problem with my ships that I rendered in standard Imperial grey. I'm close to putting a wash on it to help the panel lines stand out a little more but I also want to avoid the contrast present on unpainted models and want more of a movie look.

For me, If I get a third ISD I'm considering configuring it as an ISD-I. I asked Mel if he's up to creating conversion kits, though I am curious if anyone else has had that idea and started a conversion already.

Have you seen the paint job yet? It's not done. No where near.