How are priced for a season kit supposed to be distributed?

By Holmelund, in X-Wing

Is this guess right?

1 Medal (1 for winner)
2 Pilot alt art (1 for winner, 1 for TO)
4 Acrylic sets (1 for top 3, 1 for TO)
4 Dicebags (1 for top 3, 1 for TO)
17 alt art upgrade cards (1 for top 16, 1 for TO)



In our local meta the TO used the same method, but distributed the "1 to TO"

to the player he deemed worthy of one.

the pilot card, for example, also went to runner-up, because he really used that_pilot

and dice-bag went to the last place player, because he was the one who managed to lose 2 dice while transporting (no, really!)

and acrylic set went to the only dude who still used the carboard one.

At ours pilot cards go to top 2, dice bags top 4, medal to 1st, tokens to top 4.

Its really up to the TO. Some places use the kits to run leagues and do prizes totally different.

It says right in the kit there is not a "Gold Standard" to how a Seasonal Kit is to be distributed to players that is up to the individual stores to decide. It gives a couple of recommendations but not a required method.

Ok, thanks for the input.

I might be TO´ing a Winterkit in out community and wanted to know if it was kosher to do the one I outlined. Would at least be a little compensation for not getting to play myself.

From what the announcement sounds like, only the 17th alt art card is for the TO. The rest of the stuff is supposed to be for the players. For the most part, the TO stuff breaks up the even distrubution of stuff, ie Top 2, Top 4, Top 16, etc.

For small events especially, it is OK for the TO to play.

My opinion it's not good for a to to take prizes.

Some kits such as store championship will actually have a extra set of stuff for to

There is no reason why you can't play. So long asvyou have a secondary to that can make calls in your games

That's my opinion, but hey if everyone is cool with that then go ahead

Look at it this way

People are paying to play and it's nice to get something

If you take one if each that only leaves 1 alt art card for another player.

Not a good call in my opinion

Whenever I to I had another person available to make calls in my games and incase of a disagreement they could also help make decisions which was never needed BTW

We always did it top spot got to choose plus medal, then second choose and so on

What you suggest

Could really turn people off from coming back to future events.

Edited by Krynn007

I T.O. events, for normal store events, I typically play and only take prizes if I win.

Medal for first

Alt Art for 1st/2nd

Bags for 1st-4th

Acrylics 1st-4th

Promo for the first 17 to sign up (though one is clearly for the TO)

reality... medal for first and alt art for 1st/2nd.

The top 4 prizes generally get passed down the chain. Often the bags don't get claimed in a 16 man field. If people have it here, they tend to pass it down to someone who doesn't.

I play in normal events and the only thing I take is the participation card. TO deserves some compensation and there's usually enough to go around anyway.

You can and should play in normal events and store championships. Anything higher a TO is not allowed to play. Only way I probably wouldn't play is if it makes the number of players uneven.

Our guy has a bunch of kits from before we had anybody into the game so he'll have mini tournaments at the store on Sundays and pick a number of prizes = to number of players and we each pick one in order of placement. Kinda nice that we can stretch them as far as we can and it is only $5 to play with guarantee you will get something.

The distribution I named on top seemed fair enough in my eyes as a compensation for not being able to play yourself. It may be allowed but I really feel that both playing and TO´ing in the same tournament it a bad idea. I did it once before and in my experience it was not optimal for neither me nor the other players.

Thank you for the input and answers :)

Is this guess right?

1 Medal (1 for winner)

2 Pilot alt art (1 for winner, 1 for TO)

4 Acrylic sets (1 for top 3, 1 for TO)

4 Dicebags (1 for top 3, 1 for TO)

17 alt art upgrade cards (1 for top 16, 1 for TO)

Some kits (including the 2015 Winter) have 5 acrylics.

I think giving the TO the alt art pilot card is a bit much. TOing is appreciated, but he/she shouldn't get more prizes than 2nd place.

IMO prize giveaways should be tiered like this:

Top 1 - medal

Top 2 - alt art pilot card

Top 3 - dice bag

Top 4 - acrylic tokens

Remaining get alt art crew

TO gets dice bag, alt art crew, acrylic token.

Sure TO didn't get to play, but getting the same prizes as 3rd place without paying for entry fees is more than enough compensation.

Edited by zerotc

The distribution I named on top seemed fair enough in my eyes as a compensation for not being able to play yourself. It may be allowed but I really feel that both playing and TO´ing in the same tournament it a bad idea. I did it once before and in my experience it was not optimal for neither me nor the other players.

Thank you for the input and answers :)

I think taking almost 30% of the "earned" prizes is probably worse than playing as TO and paying the iron price for them.

Edited by Shadowpilot

One more thing to add. It's probably more the responsibility of the store to compensate the TO than FFG. They paid for the kit and are charging the tourney fee, so it's really their call.

One more thing to add. It's probably more the responsibility of the store to compensate the TO than FFG. They paid for the kit and are charging the tourney fee, so it's really their call.

The stores here dont compensate TO´s and the entry fee is minimal.(Basicly to cover the cost of the Tournament kit)

One more thing to add. It's probably more the responsibility of the store to compensate the TO than FFG. They paid for the kit and are charging the tourney fee, so it's really their call.

The stores here dont compensate TO´s and the entry fee is minimal.(Basicly to cover the cost of the Tournament kit)

In my area, the TOs typically aren't compensated either I was just pointing out where I think the responsibility should be. In my experience, they still only take the "extra" participation card. Though, in the past, I think some kits included an extra of the first and second place card.

Is this guess right?

1 Medal (1 for winner)

2 Pilot alt art (1 for winner, 1 for TO)

4 Acrylic sets (1 for top 3, 1 for TO)

4 Dicebags (1 for top 3, 1 for TO)

17 alt art upgrade cards (1 for top 16, 1 for TO)

This is what I do. I just stash the to extras away until im running a tournament without a kit and use it for that.

Most Tournaments I have been to give the prizes to the top 2/4 and the TO gets the 17th alt art card. I did go to one recently and came 2nd so was very disappointed to miss out on the pilot alt art

The distribution I named on top seemed fair enough in my eyes as a compensation for not being able to play yourself. It may be allowed but I really feel that both playing and TO´ing in the same tournament it a bad idea. I did it once before and in my experience it was not optimal for neither me nor the other players.

Thank you for the input and answers :)

It seems as though, regardless of what been said your going to snag almost half the prizes yourself

So really the input you received here is useless since your doing it your way regardless.

May I ask why it didn't turn out good before?

How is taking almost all the prizes for yourself a good way to host am event

Sorry man but that's pretty sketchy in my eyes and I'm sure I'm not alone on that.

Part of being a TO is doing the job so people can have a healthy environment to play in.

It's a job many don't want, but again there is absolutely nothing stopping you from playing, so I feel whatever is said is more an excuse to grab any goodies for yourself.

As I mentioned earlier if everyone there is fine with that, go ahead.

There is nothing stopping you even if it's not liked among the group, but it's a really poor way to promote something

Plus everyone there is paying to play

A TO who does not pay but gets 30% of the prizes is probably one of the worst ways to host an event.

Again there is absolutely nothing stopping you from playing.

I can't help but think it's more an easy way to get something without having to worry about competition. Even if that's not the case, that's how I'd see it no matter who was TOing

Ffg gives the prizes to promote the game and get players intersted in the game

What your suggesting is not helping in any way.

As a TO you can still receive a alt art card since there is 16-17 or whatever.

Plus you get the satisfaction of knowing people are having dun

fun

What good is it if there is only 1 alt art card and 3 sets of acrylics to hand out

Really nobody cares much for the dice bags their a dime a dozen. The alt cards and acrylics is what people want the most

Even the medal isn't as hot of a item.

Your taking the best prizes for yourself?

Not cool man

I'd say at most an alt art card and dice bag for yourself would be the best way to go if you really feel you should get something.

I suggest how about get another person to TO. That way you can play and don't have to feel it's "owed" to you for your time.

Excluding others who may have received something only to be bumped by a guy who didn't play, because he felt that he should get something for his time

SoRRY but actually that's probably the worst TO or close to it that I've heard of

You don't TO so you can get free prizes. You do it for the love of the game and community

Hell I've seen TO play and give up their prizes to the next player just because. No reason, and even though they didn't have to I thought this guy is very kind and really loves this game

Edited by Krynn007

I've been a TO for other systems before. I've brought the kits hired a venue and set entry price. I only covered cost of the event, and if I got more people than anticipated used the extra cash to purchase additional fun prizes on the day. As a to I would never take any of the prizes as I do it because I love the game and want to grow the community which gives me more people to play- that's my prize.

Also when I have been a TO for a store if they purchased the tournament kits I would sit down with them and agree distribution as its their event and their money. Where a store owner wanted to keep stuff for themselves I always walked away, unless it was to hols back items to use for league prizes and stuff.

As a TO taking prizes away without explaining that some are being held back for say league prizes or stuff foe beginners will do nothing but drive people away from the venue and kill the community

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