Surviving Without ECM

By Valca, in Star Wars: Armada

Depending on how bad the XI7s get, you need to invest more points in engineering. Not to repair your ship, but to do the 1-point shield moving to bring your shields to the damage, not the other way around. Against an Ackbar wall of fire list like 2AF + MC80 ackbar like to bring that's the first strategy I'd like to try.

There may be no superior defense strategy other than this, other than dodging enemy fire and getting into their un-optimal arcs (by racing ahead of a conga line or trying to get behind them). Since I like running VSD-ISD lists my head is chewing on ideas to try countering it in a shoot-out.

I learned, in my game with doobleg, that that seems to be optimal way for imps to play.

Against rebels, Drive your Flag-SD (ISD or VSD) at them fast and use your picket ships to basiaclly ram their front while your cruiser smashing into their flank.

Against imperials, Drive your Flag-SD in a joust and outflank with your pickets.

Of course that's ultra-general; and Armada is nothing if not the most "specific-situations-trump-all-tactics" game i've ever seen.

Those things look so bland and unimaginative they're almost NASA.

You're an odd duck, Mister Spike.

He's not alone.

I love the straightforward design of the Victory class Star Destroyer and the Carrack Cruiser, too.

I also love the particularly bland Cloakshape fighter. Don't ask me why.

Of course, a childhood spent reading books and playing games featuring the Victory probably gives it nostalgia points for me that some others don't get.

I'm with you on that one. I've always been rather fond of it.

I actually like the Cloakshape too! I also like Y-Wings for the same reason.

It's not really the look, perse, as is the case with Carracks...it's the function.

I like the hardy, reliable, usefullness of the ships. Reading about the Carrack as being such a powerful, but small, warship that was many times more powerful than it's size indicated made me love the little bugger...plus the simple look is something I kinda dig. It's kinda like when people talk about the Falcon and how it's "ugly" but still looks awesome for: reasons.

Well, I find the YT-1300 gorgeous in-and-of-itself...never understood the "hunk of junk" "fugly freighter" views on it.

I really love the "squished" nature of the VSD over the ISD. It looks more "business-like" and menacing with a smaller vertical profile ratio. Coincidentally this is why I've also fallen in love with Vindicators and pray for the days they are implemented into Armada so i can run a "Star Destroyer Light" taskforce with a VSD flag flanked by Vindys.

I feel that way about GSDs and love them for it. I adore that ship. It's compact, sleek, and deadly. I also admire the Raider for the same reason. It's like a flying poignard. It's what I imagine would happen if you fed a TIE Interceptor nothing but steak and bananas for an entire year.

(obviously sleek is a thing I like)

Hyperspace a maxed out Shrimp into point blank of his front arc.

"Hello, from the other siiiiiiide...."

Off the double sides clipping the front arc trick. Ackbar, APT, X17, Foresight Lando, conc fire, ordnance experts.

4red+3black+1black with rerolls

do it again

4red 3black

That ISD or Home One is looking at no shields and 4 or so damage cards, 2 faceup.

Hyperspace a maxed out Shrimp into point blank of his front arc.

"Hello, from the other siiiiiiide...."

Off the double sides clipping the front arc trick. Ackbar, APT, X17, Foresight Lando, conc fire, ordnance experts.

4red+3black+1black with rerolls

do it again

4red 3black

That ISD or Home One is looking at no shields and 4 or so damage cards, 2 faceup.

Someone managed to one-shot an ISD like that: http://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsArmada/comments/3q3vm4/today_i_oneshotted_an_isd/

Those things look so bland and unimaginative they're almost NASA.

You're an odd duck, Mister Spike.

He's not alone.

I love the straightforward design of the Victory class Star Destroyer and the Carrack Cruiser, too.

I also love the particularly bland Cloakshape fighter. Don't ask me why.

Of course, a childhood spent reading books and playing games featuring the Victory probably gives it nostalgia points for me that some others don't get.

I'm with you on that one. I've always been rather fond of it.

I actually like the Cloakshape too! I also like Y-Wings for the same reason.

It's not really the look, perse, as is the case with Carracks...it's the function.

I like the hardy, reliable, usefullness of the ships. Reading about the Carrack as being such a powerful, but small, warship that was many times more powerful than it's size indicated made me love the little bugger...plus the simple look is something I kinda dig. It's kinda like when people talk about the Falcon and how it's "ugly" but still looks awesome for: reasons.

Well, I find the YT-1300 gorgeous in-and-of-itself...never understood the "hunk of junk" "fugly freighter" views on it.

I really love the "squished" nature of the VSD over the ISD. It looks more "business-like" and menacing with a smaller vertical profile ratio. Coincidentally this is why I've also fallen in love with Vindicators and pray for the days they are implemented into Armada so i can run a "Star Destroyer Light" taskforce with a VSD flag flanked by Vindys.

I feel that way about GSDs and love them for it. I adore that ship. It's compact, sleek, and deadly. I also admire the Raider for the same reason. It's like a flying poignard. It's what I imagine would happen if you fed a TIE Interceptor nothing but steak and bananas for an entire year.

(obviously sleek is a thing I like)

I, too, love the Gladiator and Raider. I only wish they had updated the very top of the Gladiator to look more like a SD, as the top looks like a buncha knobs you would play with on some high-tech-gizmo instead of technical-gadgets on the VSD and ISD bridge...though the main bridge platform is perfect as-is.

Those things look so bland and unimaginative they're almost NASA.

You're an odd duck, Mister Spike.

He's not alone.

I love the straightforward design of the Victory class Star Destroyer and the Carrack Cruiser, too.

I also love the particularly bland Cloakshape fighter. Don't ask me why.

Of course, a childhood spent reading books and playing games featuring the Victory probably gives it nostalgia points for me that some others don't get.

I'm with you on that one. I've always been rather fond of it.

I actually like the Cloakshape too! I also like Y-Wings for the same reason.

It's not really the look, perse, as is the case with Carracks...it's the function.

I like the hardy, reliable, usefullness of the ships. Reading about the Carrack as being such a powerful, but small, warship that was many times more powerful than it's size indicated made me love the little bugger...plus the simple look is something I kinda dig. It's kinda like when people talk about the Falcon and how it's "ugly" but still looks awesome for: reasons.

Well, I find the YT-1300 gorgeous in-and-of-itself...never understood the "hunk of junk" "fugly freighter" views on it.

I really love the "squished" nature of the VSD over the ISD. It looks more "business-like" and menacing with a smaller vertical profile ratio. Coincidentally this is why I've also fallen in love with Vindicators and pray for the days they are implemented into Armada so i can run a "Star Destroyer Light" taskforce with a VSD flag flanked by Vindys.

I feel that way about GSDs and love them for it. I adore that ship. It's compact, sleek, and deadly. I also admire the Raider for the same reason. It's like a flying poignard. It's what I imagine would happen if you fed a TIE Interceptor nothing but steak and bananas for an entire year.

(obviously sleek is a thing I like)

I, too, love the Gladiator and Raider. I only wish they had updated the very top of the Gladiator to look more like a SD, as the top looks like a buncha knobs you would play with on some high-tech-gizmo instead of technical-gadgets on the VSD and ISD bridge...though the main bridge platform is perfect as-is.

Lol, I had the same notion, but that's how I figure you're supposed to crank it up to eleven when that thing gets in black dice range

Those things look so bland and unimaginative they're almost NASA.

You're an odd duck, Mister Spike.

He's not alone.

I love the straightforward design of the Victory class Star Destroyer and the Carrack Cruiser, too.

I also love the particularly bland Cloakshape fighter. Don't ask me why.

Of course, a childhood spent reading books and playing games featuring the Victory probably gives it nostalgia points for me that some others don't get.

I too like the VSD, because it makes the ISD look even bigger by providing a scale :D

the ISD is definite nostalgia fodder, but the phenomenon of habituation exists even there. For that reason, a fleet of 2 VSDs and 1 ISD looks so much cooler than 3 ISDs to me

Imperial I-Class Star Destroyer (159pts) [Gunnery Team (7pts), XI7 Turbolasers (6pts), •Darth Vader (36pts)]

Victory II-Class Star Destroyer (104pts) [Gunnery Team (7pts), Phylon Q7 Tractor Beams (6pts), XI7 Turbolasers (6pts)]

Victory II-Class Star Destroyer (104pts) [Gunnery Team (7pts), Phylon Q7 Tractor Beams (6pts), XI7 Turbolasers (6pts)]

+ Squadrons (32pts) +

Aggressor Assault Fighter (16pts)

Aggressor Assault Fighter (16pts)

+ Objectives +

Assault Objective [Precision Strike]

Defense Objective [Fire Lanes]

Navigation Objective [superior Positions]

Or, play against an opponent who's smart enough to bring Home One but dumb enough to forget to use it. (I have no idea what you're talking about)

Not sure if it's just my local meta but are XI7's that popular? I haven't seen much use of them, most of us go for the turbolasers that increase damage output. I will admit to having a CR90B + ICBs specifically for targeting braces.

They're extremely important on Imperial ships. Rebels have so many shields and several Rebel ships now don't have braces. Those XI-7s are the only option for getting through shields on monsters like the MC80 and MC30.

several Rebel ships now don't have braces.

Indeed. CR90s and MC30s.

Same number of Ships don't have Redirects, either... Imperial Raider and Nebulon-B.

It all balances out. Against those targets, you might be better served with Heavy Turbolaser Turrets...

several Rebel ships now don't have braces.

Indeed. CR90s and MC30s.

Same number of Ships don't have Redirects, either... Imperial Raider and Nebulon-B.

It all balances out. Against those targets, you might be better served with Heavy Turbolaser Turrets...

What do you mean?

Spend any other Defense token, and your Brace is reduced to a Single point... This includes Evades, which the others have in spades... Or even a Contain token!

What do you mean?

Spend any other Defense token, and your Brace is reduced to a Single point... This includes Evades, which the others have in spades... Or even a Contain token!

Exactly this. This allows me to generate regular crits with my VSD not using APTs since if they brace my 3red5black attack they can't contain the crit that WILL happen (screed)...I love HTTs.