Buddy of mine asked me are u alowed to use your mamuvertemplates for set up as well? I couldn't think of it off the top of my head and even skimming the rules I can't seem to find anything on it. Any help is great thanks. Also if u do give a reason to why or why not plz tell me the rule page and that so I can't find it me self thanks a lot

Yes. You can use your templates to measure during the initial set-up phase.

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Baaa

As long as your templates remain inside the setup zone (range 1) along your side of the play area... you're cool. I think.

Tournament rules page 2, Squad Deployment Procedure

"6. Players place their ships in ascending order of pilot skill as per standard X-Wing rules. Players cannot use maneuver templates for anything other than measuring distance and spacing within Range 1 of that player’s edge."

(emphasis mine)

Tournament rules page 2, Squad Deployment Procedure

"6. Players place their ships in ascending order of pilot skill as per standard X-Wing rules. Players cannot use maneuver templates for anything other than measuring distance and spacing within Range 1 of that player’s edge."

(emphasis mine)

Which in real speak means yes, you can (since you can't deploy your ships outside Range 1).

Cheers

Baaa

Tournament rules page 2, Squad Deployment Procedure

"6. Players place their ships in ascending order of pilot skill as per standard X-Wing rules. Players cannot use maneuver templates for anything other than measuring distance and spacing within Range 1 of that player’s edge."

(emphasis mine)

Which in real speak means yes, you can (since you can't deploy your ships outside Range 1).

Cheers

Baaa

No, it means you can't have the templates touching space outside of range 1, for example you can't have a ship right at the range 1 line then slot a template into the front of it and move it back and forth. That restriction has nothing to do with where you can put ships.

Tournament rules page 2, Squad Deployment Procedure

"6. Players place their ships in ascending order of pilot skill as per standard X-Wing rules. Players cannot use maneuver templates for anything other than measuring distance and spacing within Range 1 of that player’s edge."

(emphasis mine)

Which in real speak means yes, you can (since you can't deploy your ships outside Range 1).

Cheers

Baaa

No, it means you can't have the templates touching space outside of range 1, for example you can't have a ship right at the range 1 line then slot a template into the front of it and move it back and forth. That restriction has nothing to do with where you can put ships.

Which again, means in real speak, Yes.

You can use any template you want as long as you keep the deployment of your ships in Range 1.

There is absolutely nothing saying that your templates can't overlap Range 1.

Your ships in Range 1? Yes

Your templates? Yes; as long as your ship bases do not exceed the Range 1 template.

Cheers

Baaa

Tournament rules page 2, Squad Deployment Procedure

"6. Players place their ships in ascending order of pilot skill as per standard X-Wing rules. Players cannot use maneuver templates for anything other than measuring distance and spacing within Range 1 of that player’s edge."

(emphasis mine)

Which in real speak means yes, you can (since you can't deploy your ships outside Range 1).

Cheers

Baaa

No, it means you can't have the templates touching space outside of range 1, for example you can't have a ship right at the range 1 line then slot a template into the front of it and move it back and forth. That restriction has nothing to do with where you can put ships.

This. And the OP asked for a source which no one had provided as of yet.

Tournament rules page 2, Squad Deployment Procedure

"6. Players place their ships in ascending order of pilot skill as per standard X-Wing rules. Players cannot use maneuver templates for anything other than measuring distance and spacing within Range 1 of that player’s edge."

(emphasis mine)

Which in real speak means yes, you can (since you can't deploy your ships outside Range 1).

Cheers

Baaa

No, it means you can't have the templates touching space outside of range 1, for example you can't have a ship right at the range 1 line then slot a template into the front of it and move it back and forth. That restriction has nothing to do with where you can put ships.

This. And the OP asked for a source which no one had provided as of yet.

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Baaa

Umm. Yeah I already provided a source. It was the post you needed to translate to "real speak". Learn to play isn't a great source for rulings either. As it's just a learn to play book.

As Otacan said. The templates cannot go outside of range one. It says this very clearly in the source section I quoted and bolded.

Umm. Yeah I already provided a source. It was the post you needed to translate to "real speak". Learn to play isn't a great source for rulings either. As it's just a learn to play book.

As Otacan said. The templates cannot go outside of range one. It says this very clearly in the source section I quoted and bolded.

OMG Paul Heaver cheats in Worlds Win!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm, there were a lot more than Range 1 templates used in the set up of this match.

Moot point?

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Baaa

Umm. Yeah I already provided a source. It was the post you needed to translate to "real speak". Learn to play isn't a great source for rulings either. As it's just a learn to play book.

As Otacan said. The templates cannot go outside of range one. It says this very clearly in the source section I quoted and bolded.

OMG Paul Heaver cheats in Worlds win

NATHAN uses a full-length ruler, but he's clearly only using it to measure R1. The intent of the rule is that you're not meant to use a template outside your deployment zone to, f'rinstance, measure the distance to an asteroid. That's why they specify "FOR ANYTHING OTHER than measuring distance within R1 of the board edge". So it's not quite as cut and dried as "yes you can measure while you're deploying".

I believe before you were allowed to use your maneuver templates to setup you ships. This meant you could pre-measure out your first maneuver since you were allowed to use your templates to set up. They made the ruling more strict as to not allow that.

I believe before you were allowed to use your maneuver templates to setup you ships. This meant you could pre-measure out your first maneuver since you were allowed to use your templates to set up. They made the ruling more strict as to not allow that.

Mind you, he didn't stray from this plan, so his opponent layed the hammer down on him ASAP.

The ruling was: "there's technically nothing in the rules to stop this".

Yeah they updated the tournament rules specifically to disallow that.

Planning out three turns of moves is bad anyway, but you could do things like line up for asteroids and gain lots of other information without telegraphing as badly.

My take on the updated setup ruling is to prevent multiple uses of templates outside of the setup zone. If the templates touch the setup zone you should be go but you can't start out in the middle of an asteroid field and then work backwards to a starting position.

Using the templates to see where you may end up after your first maneuver should be ok as it brings the template back to the starting zone but going further than that....

Apologies all round for my posts they were beginning to become facetious. Half a bottle of vodka and an internet connection are not, it seems, the greatest of combinations. At least where I'm concerned.

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Baaa