Liberty Class

By mazz0, in Star Wars: Armada

Was it more aggressive than Home One? I'm wondering if it'll have a Weapons Team slot, among other things.

Yes, Liberty Class was the bigger brother of Home One. Can't see why one of our capital class ships wouldn't have Gunnery Teams, since the ISD gets to double-fry from its forward arc.

Because it's a Frakking Imperial-Class Star Destroyer, that's why.

Because it's a Frakking Imperial-Class Star Destroyer, that's why.

I seem to recall that the Liberty-class was focused on front arc but can't find it now. In that case, it'd just be an ISD with less hull and better shields. Not that I'm complaining.

Yes, Liberty Class was the bigger brother of Home One. Can't see why one of our capital class ships wouldn't have Gunnery Teams, since the ISD gets to double-fry from its forward arc.

Gunnery team on an MC-80 would create very real balance issues, IMO.

Gunnery team on an MC-80 would create very real balance issues, IMO.

On the home one? Yes it would. But on the Liberty? We don't know. We don't have stats for it.

Gunnery team on an MC-80 would create very real balance issues, IMO.

Gunnery Teams, Defiance, X17 Turbolasers, NK-7's, Engine Techs, Redundant Shields, and Electronic Countermeasures. . . What a tough ship to Crack. . .

I think the reason they didn't give it a weapons team slot is because they gave it a support slot. It seems like they aren't mixing those two slots.

Yes, Liberty Class was the bigger brother of Home One. Can't see why one of our capital class ships wouldn't have Gunnery Teams, since the ISD gets to double-fry from its forward arc.

the liberty was actually smaller then Home One

Home One: 1,300 meters

Liberty class:

- Standard length: 1,200 meters

- Individual ships: 1,500 meters
Huh, guess we're both right, though you're righter.

Yes, Liberty Class was the bigger brother of Home One. Can't see why one of our capital class ships wouldn't have Gunnery Teams, since the ISD gets to double-fry from its forward arc.

the liberty was actually smaller then Home One

Home One: 1,300 meters

Liberty class:

- Standard length: 1,200 meters

- Individual ships: 1,500 meters

Huh, guess we're both right, though you're righter.

Yea, even the "official" length of home One is so UN clear anyway, who really knows :P

I'd like to know where the basis for the opinions on firepower come from. Far as I know it only carried turbolasers, and had wings, but no specific firing arcs or anything.

From the Wiki:

Canon is inconsistent about the weapons array aboard Home One. The best-known (and apparently most frequently stated) armament consists of 29 turbolasers and 36 ion cannons, arguably a very light armament for a vessel of this cruiser's size and importance. However, the earliest known source to give the ship's armament, the 1984 first edition of A Guide to the Star Wars Universe, describes her as carrying 29 batteries of five turbolaser cannon each, for a more impressive total of 145 turbolasers and 36 ion cannons. Adding to the confusion, the Star Wars Trilogy Sourcebook, Special Edition gives Home One instead an armament of 48 turbolasers and 20 ion cannons, which had previously been given as the armament of a standard MC80 Star Cruiser. The Official Star Wars Fact File 12 cites the two contrasting armaments on consecutive pages. A more recent official source, Starships of the Galaxy, gives the Home One and its subclass 36 turbolasers, 36 heavy ion cannons and six tractor beam projectors.

So at the very least, Home One did have Ion Cannons (though we're not quite sure as to how many), making the Armada dice layouts consistent with the various canon/Legends sources.

Liberty has 48 heavy? turbolasers and 20 ion cannons, most of the weapons located on its wings allowing it to converge most of its firepower forward.

My guess would be:

front 5 red 2 blue

side 2 red 1 or 2 blue

rear 1 red 1 blue

Mc80 goes well with Ackbar while Liberty would be a large ship for a fleet that prefers frontal firepower

Edited by Microscop

it will be interesting to see if we get the AF MKI our the liberty first. Since my understanding is they both are front arc oriented. My guess will be AF mkI medium base then the wave after that liberty large base. Similar with what they did with waves one to two

Because it's a Frakking Imperial-Class Star Destroyer, that's why.

I seem to recall that the Liberty-class was focused on front arc but can't find it now. In that case, it'd just be an ISD with less hull and better shields. Not that I'm complaining.

I'd love to see a layout like some of the DA's Custom ships, with a front/side designed for extremely easy and powerful double-arcs. We haven't seen any ships really try to take advantage of that yet.

Im guessing Liberty/Finalizer as the next two big ships and an Interdictor/Resistance TFA medium ship to go with them, giving both factions at least two ships in every size class.

it will be interesting to see if we get the AF MKI our the liberty first. Since my understanding is they both are front arc oriented. My guess will be AF mkI medium base then the wave after that liberty large base. Similar with what they did with waves one to two

I agree

We might see dp20 and Af mkI in wave 3, Liberty and escort carrier in wave 4 would be my bet

Liberty has 48 heavy? turbolasers and 20 ion cannons, most of the weapons located on its wings allowing it to converge most of its firepower forward.

My guess would be:

front 5 red 2 blue

side 2 red 1 or 2 blue

rear 1 red 1 blue

Mc80 goes well with Ackbar while Liberty would be a large ship for a fleet that prefers frontal firepower

I don't really like how rebels outperform star destroyers at long range as it stands, seems counter to what we know of the ISD (heaviest long range frontal firepower of any ship of its size class). 5 red dice for the Liberty would be ridiculous when the ISD-II only has 4.

Liberty has 48 heavy? turbolasers and 20 ion cannons, most of the weapons located on its wings allowing it to converge most of its firepower forward.

My guess would be:

front 5 red 2 blue

side 2 red 1 or 2 blue

rear 1 red 1 blue

Mc80 goes well with Ackbar while Liberty would be a large ship for a fleet that prefers frontal firepower

I don't really like how rebels outperform star destroyers at long range as it stands, seems counter to what we know of the ISD (heaviest long range frontal firepower of any ship of its size class). 5 red dice for the Liberty would be ridiculous when the ISD-II only has 4.

I'd agree with that. 4 reds and 2 blues seems like a more realistic idea. That's pretty brutal as is.

I dont think we will be getting Large ships for 1 or 2 waves. I would not mind if they make the liberty just a larger medium base

It kind of makes sense that the rebel caps would be more comfortable at range, right? Isn't that why Ackbar was hesitant to close with the star destroyers at Endor?

Liberty has 48 heavy? turbolasers and 20 ion cannons, most of the weapons located on its wings allowing it to converge most of its firepower forward.

My guess would be:

front 5 red 2 blue

side 2 red 1 or 2 blue

rear 1 red 1 blue

Mc80 goes well with Ackbar while Liberty would be a large ship for a fleet that prefers frontal firepower

I don't really like how rebels outperform star destroyers at long range as it stands, seems counter to what we know of the ISD (heaviest long range frontal firepower of any ship of its size class). 5 red dice for the Liberty would be ridiculous when the ISD-II only has 4.

Give the Liberty those attack dice... Don't let it have Gunnery Teams... The ISD still has more frontal firepower, in a "Technical" way.

Technically correct. The Best Kind of correct. :D

I dont think we will be getting Large ships for 1 or 2 waves. I would not mind if they make the liberty just a larger medium base

I hope we're not stuck with only one large ship on each side for that long. Still a few interesting choices there. When those are exhausted we can get whatever is introduced in #8.

I like the idea of it having a wide front and rear arcs with 5-6 dice in the front. Give it shields similar to a Home one and maybe one less hull. I was toying with the concept of it having 2 support teams.

It kind of makes sense that the rebel caps would be more comfortable at range, right? Isn't that why Ackbar was hesitant to close with the star destroyers at Endor?

In a way...Rebel ships are most comfortable out of range ;) In the initial battle they hold back, and are only under attack by the Imperial fighters. They only (reluctantly) engage the Imperial fleet when forced to by the second Death Star turning out to be operational. And when they do engage the Star Destroyers, you see them close to almost point blank range.