if you're treating the attack as range 1, you aren't interacting at all with the ships' physical distance from one another

Carnor v Inquisitor is incredibly unambiguous. when at range 2-3, the Inquisitor gets his bonus and Carnor's ability does not apply

all that is being affect are effects that trigger based off of range, such as bonus dice and specific upgrades ala Autothrusters.

Similarly, Strom does nothing to keep the Inquisitor from getting his bonus dice from the range 1 bonus, unless Strom is actually within range 1 of the inquisitor

the only abilities that would matter are those that trigger from attacks being made at range 1, as the attack is being treated as if it were made from that range

Carnor/Strom/Gemmer etc. don't care about the range at which the attack is being made, only that an enemy ship is at range 1 of them

I assumed the defender would get their extra green die at range 3

The inquisitors ability only influences his side of the attack - so, HE treats the attack as range one but the defender treats it as range 3.

I'm surprised so few others interpreted it this way.

I assumed the defender would get their extra green die at range 3

The inquisitors ability only influences his side of the attack - so, HE treats the attack as range one but the defender treats it as range 3.

I'm surprised so few others interpreted it this way.

thats the difference between treating YOUR attack as range 1 and treating THE attack as range 1. the attack involves attacker and defender while your attack only involves the attacker.

Sorry didn't mean to stir up quite a mess with that question.

the question here is if getting a blue TL token from jendon counts as aquiring a target lock for the sake of the v1 title or just getting passed a blue token.

If you get a targetlock, while you previously didn't have one, what else than "aquire" is it?

I'd wager that the V1 title triggers anytime a rules interaction takes place in which the text reads "acquire." This is the case with most cards and abilities that give target locks. However, Jendon does not say "acquire," he says assign. Could be wrong, and in fact I think it should work in my opinion, but rules as written I think this is one interaction that doesn't work.

I do think the Inquisitor's card ability is clearer than many are trying to make it, but that's another post.

Based on the FAQ, I believe the V1 would trigger off of Jendon's ability:

Acquiring a target lock

When an ability instructs you to acquire a target lock, this is different than performing an ‘acquire a target lock’ action. It is possible to acquire a target lock while stressed, and a ship can acquire a target lock multiple times during the same round. A ship can only perform one ‘acquire a target lock’ action per round. Each ship is able to maintain one target lock, unless stated otherwise by a game effect.

Assigning a token to your ship

When an ability instructs you to assign a token to your ship, this is different than performing a free action that provides the same token. For example, Kyle Katarn’s (pilot) ability allows you to “assign 1 of your focus tokens to another friendly ship at Range 1–3.” A ship that has a focus or evade token assigned to it can still perform that action during the round.

Surprise surprise, this wave just keeps on giving when it comes to ambiguous card text.

And the Inquisitor is the one stirring up the most trouble.

The Inquistor is only complicated with his interaction with Carnor.

In and of himself it seems very straightforward.

The attack (reds/greens/defence bonuses) is range 1. Regardless of what that pesky range ruler says.

Nothing about the Inquisitor is ambiguous. Even the interaction with Carnor is straight forward:

"Enemy ships at Range 1 cannot perform focus or evade actions and cannot spend focus or evade tokens."

When a ship tries to spend a token, you measure distance from Carnor to the ship that wants to spend the token. Nothing about the what the target is doing with the token comes into play here.

Your right.

"The attack is treated as range 1" is not the same as "the inquisitor is treated as range 1", which it would have to be to come under Carnors influence.

Based on the FAQ, I believe the V1 would trigger off of Jendon's ability:

Acquiring a target lock

When an ability instructs you to acquire a target lock, this is different than performing an ‘acquire a target lock’ action. It is possible to acquire a target lock while stressed, and a ship can acquire a target lock multiple times during the same round. A ship can only perform one ‘acquire a target lock’ action per round. Each ship is able to maintain one target lock, unless stated otherwise by a game effect.

Assigning a token to your ship

When an ability instructs you to assign a token to your ship, this is different than performing a free action that provides the same token. For example, Kyle Katarn’s (pilot) ability allows you to “assign 1 of your focus tokens to another friendly ship at Range 1–3.” A ship that has a focus or evade token assigned to it can still perform that action during the round.

Cool, thanks So my plan works!

Now all rebel players will be like "wait, what? Your Empire list has synergy? How is that possible?!"

Based on the FAQ, I believe the V1 would trigger off of Jendon's ability:

Acquiring a target lock

When an ability instructs you to acquire a target lock, this is different than performing an ‘acquire a target lock’ action. It is possible to acquire a target lock while stressed, and a ship can acquire a target lock multiple times during the same round. A ship can only perform one ‘acquire a target lock’ action per round. Each ship is able to maintain one target lock, unless stated otherwise by a game effect.

Assigning a token to your ship

When an ability instructs you to assign a token to your ship, this is different than performing a free action that provides the same token. For example, Kyle Katarn’s (pilot) ability allows you to “assign 1 of your focus tokens to another friendly ship at Range 1–3.” A ship that has a focus or evade token assigned to it can still perform that action during the round.

Cool, thanks So my plan works!

Now all rebel players will be like "wait, what? Your Empire list has synergy? How is that possible?!"

The empire is surrounded with synergy. you just need to be searching for it.

Based on the FAQ, I believe the V1 would trigger off of Jendon's ability:

Acquiring a target lock

When an ability instructs you to acquire a target lock, this is different than performing an ‘acquire a target lock’ action. It is possible to acquire a target lock while stressed, and a ship can acquire a target lock multiple times during the same round. A ship can only perform one ‘acquire a target lock’ action per round. Each ship is able to maintain one target lock, unless stated otherwise by a game effect.

Assigning a token to your ship

When an ability instructs you to assign a token to your ship, this is different than performing a free action that provides the same token. For example, Kyle Katarn’s (pilot) ability allows you to “assign 1 of your focus tokens to another friendly ship at Range 1–3.” A ship that has a focus or evade token assigned to it can still perform that action during the round.

Cool, thanks So my plan works!

Now all rebel players will be like "wait, what? Your Empire list has synergy? How is that possible?!"

The empire is surrounded with synergy. you just need to be searching for it.

I know, I'm just joking. The Dark side has it all. Except for TLT's...

Based on the FAQ, I believe the V1 would trigger off of Jendon's ability:

Acquiring a target lock

When an ability instructs you to acquire a target lock, this is different than performing an ‘acquire a target lock’ action. It is possible to acquire a target lock while stressed, and a ship can acquire a target lock multiple times during the same round. A ship can only perform one ‘acquire a target lock’ action per round. Each ship is able to maintain one target lock, unless stated otherwise by a game effect.

Assigning a token to your ship

When an ability instructs you to assign a token to your ship, this is different than performing a free action that provides the same token. For example, Kyle Katarn’s (pilot) ability allows you to “assign 1 of your focus tokens to another friendly ship at Range 1–3.” A ship that has a focus or evade token assigned to it can still perform that action during the round.

Cool, thanks So my plan works!

Now all rebel players will be like "wait, what? Your Empire list has synergy? How is that possible?!"

I don't agree with this interpretation. It's clear that "acquiring a target lock" is not the same as taking the "acquire a target lock" action. However, it is also clear that Jendon does not allow friendly ships to "acquire a target lock." As Engine25 pointed out, Jendon says to "assign 1 of your target lock tokens." This means that the shipp would not "acquire a target lock" and therefore the v1 title would not trigger. That's how I read it.

I don't think the issue with Carnor is that crazy. If your ship is at R1, then you can't use a Focus. The Inq.'s attacks are at R1. Doesn't mean his ship is.

Besides, Carnor means you can't use a Focus. The V1 title gives you an Evade for a TL. When will the Inquisitor actually do a Focus?

What EPT's do you guys like for the Inquisitor? I'm thinking VI is best. He's going to be doing TL most turns to get the Evade. PTL is probably overkill. Predator isn't needed. If he were using his Boost and Barrel Roll to get around, I'd think Outmaneuver, but I feel like he will just TL every turn and face ships head on (with the Evade) - OK...not a whole formation, but a single ship is probably OK.

Carnor also shuts down evades (both taking and spending), but not Juke if you have it before he gets in range

Carnor also shuts down evades (both taking and spending), but not Juke if you have it before he gets in range

Correct, it effectively Stops V1's action economy benefit from TL if he's at R1

Carnor also shuts down evades (both taking and spending), but not Juke if you have it before he gets in range

Correct, it effectively Stops V1's action economy benefit from TL if he's at R1

Except he's not at R1. It's only the Inq. attack that counts as R1. When Carnor (or anyone) fires back, he gets to use the Evade.

Carnor also shuts down evades (both taking and spending), but not Juke if you have it before he gets in range

Correct, it effectively Stops V1's action economy benefit from TL if he's at R1

Except he's not at R1. It's only the Inq. attack that counts as R1. When Carnor (or anyone) fires back, he gets to use the Evade.

in my scenario he would have ended movement at R1, sorry i didnt make that clearer.

if he's within R1 of Jax and performs a TL he does not get an Evade.

Based on the FAQ, I believe the V1 would trigger off of Jendon's ability:

Acquiring a target lock

When an ability instructs you to acquire a target lock, this is different than performing an ‘acquire a target lock’ action. It is possible to acquire a target lock while stressed, and a ship can acquire a target lock multiple times during the same round. A ship can only perform one ‘acquire a target lock’ action per round. Each ship is able to maintain one target lock, unless stated otherwise by a game effect.

Assigning a token to your ship

When an ability instructs you to assign a token to your ship, this is different than performing a free action that provides the same token. For example, Kyle Katarn’s (pilot) ability allows you to “assign 1 of your focus tokens to another friendly ship at Range 1–3.” A ship that has a focus or evade token assigned to it can still perform that action during the round.

Cool, thanks So my plan works!

Now all rebel players will be like "wait, what? Your Empire list has synergy? How is that possible?!"

I don't agree with this interpretation. It's clear that "acquiring a target lock" is not the same as taking the "acquire a target lock" action. However, it is also clear that Jendon does not allow friendly ships to "acquire a target lock." As Engine25 pointed out, Jendon says to "assign 1 of your target lock tokens." This means that the shipp would not "acquire a target lock" and therefore the v1 title would not trigger. That's how I read it.

Jendon's token passing, not target lock acquisition. I believe the FAQ does clarify this somewhere.