I am going to get 2 Starvipers and 1 Kihraxz Fighter. I need help with a squad; here is what I was thinking. Guri W/ Lone Wolf (Or PTL + Advanced Sensors.) + Xizor + Any Kihraxz Fighter pilot. Can't wait to hear your advice.

I am looking for some upgrade cards I can use, and what Kihraxz pilot to use.

Just placed my order! They are getting here Monday!!!

I ran Xizor with Sensor Jammers, Autothrusters, Veteran Instincts and Glitterstim on sunday and did really well with it. So far I don't really see using more than one starviper in a squad though. The Kihraxz is pretty awesome, I like the Black Sun Ace with predator and I hear Crackshot+Glitterstim is solid on it.

There are 3Kihraz usages

1. 20-point flying cannon. B-wings are tougher, we are cheaper

2. 25 points Black sun Wingman

3. COBRA TIME. Talonbane + Engine + Push teh Limit + glitterstimms if you have the points.

Here's some list ideas that are not bad at all:

Guri w/ predator, virago, sensor jammer, autothrusters = 40

3 cartel marauders = 20 x 3 (you could swap any number for cartel spacers with manglers since same cost)

100

Xizor w/ push the limit, virago, advanced sensors, autothrusters & flechette torpedo = 42

Guri w/ lone wolf & autothrusters = 34 (use Guri as a flanker or deploy her with everyone else and split her off before engaging)

2 binayre pirates = 12 x 2

100

IG88C w/ lone wolf, sensor jammer & autothrusters = 44 (use IG as bait so they don't kill your vipers early)

2 blacksun enforcers w/ autothrusters = 27 x 2

100

Talonbane cobra w/ crack shot & glitterstim = 31

2 blacksun enforcers w/ autothrusters = 27 x 2 (use vipers as blockers to protect cobra)

1 blacksun soldier w/ feedback array = 15

100

I've been having a lot of success with:

Prince Xizor

-VI

-Autothrusters

-Title

-Inertial Dampners

-Fire Control System

Syndicate Thug

-TLT

-Unhinged Astromech (x2)

Binyare Pilot

It's a really good list. I usually set up the Y's in the back and the Z in front, and keep Xizor off to the side so he can pawn off some damage to the little guys. Then I don't really worry if the formation breaks up a little bit as the game goes on, as long as Xizor stays relatively fresh for the late game. I like FCS on him because if it comes down to Xizor VS. Ace in the late game, there's going to be a lot of K-Turns and S-Loops, so having the Target Lock after you S-Loop is a huge advantage.

Thanks everyone! Does anyone have an good ideas for, 2 Starvipers and 1 Kihraxz Fighter?

Id start with something like

Kihraxz Fighter: · Talonbane Cobra (28)

Predator (3)

Engine Upgrade (4)

StarViper: Black Sun Enforcer (25)

Autothrusters (2)

StarViper: · Prince Xizor (31)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Autothrusters (2)

· Virago (1)

Fire Control System (2)

Wow! That is pretty cool! This is what I was thinking:

-Prince Xizor

?

-Guri

?

-Pilot Skill 5 Kihraxz

Glitterstim

Crackshot

Who do you think would be best with Glitterstim? I am thinking NOT Guri.

Wow! That is pretty cool! This is what I was thinking:

-Prince Xizor

?

-Guri

?

-Pilot Skill 5 Kihraxz

Glitterstim

Crackshot

Who do you think would be best with Glitterstim? I am thinking NOT Guri.

Anybody wanna comment on this?

As much as I dislike the build list subforum, if youre going to make 5 or so threads all for your own sepcific situation, please put most of them in there.

I know its slow. =/

Id start with something like

Kihraxz Fighter: · Talonbane Cobra (28)

Predator (3)

Engine Upgrade (4)

StarViper: Black Sun Enforcer (25)

Autothrusters (2)

StarViper: · Prince Xizor (31)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Autothrusters (2)

· Virago (1)

Fire Control System (2)

Cobra loves the PTL and Wingman kihraz bro

I would probably run this....

Talonbane cobra
Crack shot, engine upgrade glitterstim (35)

Guri
Crack shot Virago Autothrusters, dampeners, fire control system (37)

Black sun enforcer
Autothrusters (27)


Cobra - stim + TL + crack shot will give you a really strong hit, engine gives you positioning and the occasional dodge arcs. It keeps him slightly cheaper than he would be otherwise.

Guri doesn't have to worry about being actionless - she gets focus in the scrum, and she gets target locks on targets that don't immediately explode for rerolls - so the excellent viper dial is completely open without stress issues. Dampeners lets you stop at the moment you need to, and crack shot will help you deal with super hard targets. Guri is also fairly immune to stress because of it.

The Enforcer is a blocker / harasser. It can get in peoples way between its dial and it's boost - and is a pretty good ship when flown in the best role contextually. As a blocker - it denies enemy actions, prohibits movement - this is important in defeating things like PTL dash. When the enemy is fairly focused on guri or cobra though - this ship with its 3 attack, starts to deal quite a bit of damage - and can play in range 1.

It's 99 points this gives you a small point bid for soontir's etc.

Lone wolf for crack shot OR glitterstim for dampeners on Guri could be a good call There's also a good argument for dropping FCS and Dampeners for sensor Jammer - but you'll probably want to find the (drop the thrusters on the enforcer - to swap out crack shot for predator) You could also go to expert handling on Cobra. PTL on cobra is ok - but it's gonna limit you without turns, and when you want to come around you need to lay off, or boost + ptl, which puts you in the same place. the best moves on the dial are Red (5K) or white (1 turn) - and you'll want access to those additionally, ptl gets shut down by rebel captive, stress bots and other things - crack shot and stim will still function though.

Xizors ability is not so great here - as he doesn't want to fly information - and you don't want to sacrifice your other ships for him - they are too fragile, and your list is low on overall HP - so Xizor would be just for the pilot skill bid - and that could be good - but I find Guri with double focus from her ability to be more survivable in this type of list, though it takes more skill to read opponents to out fly the soontirs of the world with lower p.s. Guri will destroy p.s. 4 and below pretty well.

Finally - you're weak to TLT's (hence the above sensor jammer substitution call) you'll need to descend on them early , and hope you don't eat too much damage on the way in - you'll need to drop them before going after opposing aces etc - otherwise they will pick the squad apart given enough time.

In my squad, I am going to be running Prince Xizor, Guri, and 1 of the Kihraxz pilots, should I run Guri with lone wolf? Or should I keep them together? It would be pretty fun to have a lone wolf Guri, but I know since I only have 1 other ship with Xizor, that I should be putting Guri with him. What do you guys think?

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In my squad, I am going to be running Prince Xizor, Guri, and 1 of the Kihraxz pilots, should I run Guri with lone wolf? Or should I keep them together? It would be pretty fun to have a lone wolf Guri, but I know since I only have 1 other ship with Xizor, that I should be putting Guri with him. What do you guys think?

I really need to know soon. I need to know by Monday, cause I can't figure it out. XD

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Generic Starvipers are overpriced and generally suck nerf... something

*Nerf sounds heard in the distance*

Virago is nice, but requires you to be Guri at least.

And when you start kitting the starviper it's hard to stop.

and it starts eating half of your roster.

While still being a rather flimsy low-PS construct.

Xizor is useless without cannon fodder.

Guri requires tons of upgrades.

And both want Virago, and it's unique.

???

Don't fly 2 starvipers.

In my squad, I am going to be running Prince Xizor, Guri, and 1 of the Kihraxz pilots, should I run Guri with lone wolf? Or should I keep them together? It would be pretty fun to have a lone wolf Guri, but I know since I only have 1 other ship with Xizor, that I should be putting Guri with him. What do you guys think?

I can only join Warpman in this. Do not fly 2 starvipers. The second Viper is an investment into the Autothrusters you get with it, nothing more!

Guri is easily the best choice. Put Virago on him, then season to your playstyle. In the TLT meta i have tried Sensor jammer on him which is really a great choice. If you don't face TLTs then probably go with FCS or Advanced sensors. PTL if you took Semsor jammer or FCS, predator is good with Advanced sensors. I don't think he needs any illicit stuff, but others love Glitterstim on him.

Xizor is not worth it, especially in a 3 ship squad. If you run him, run cheap stuff with tons of shields alongside. Z-95 swarm or a Trandoshan slaver come to mind.

Cobra is probably a good choice for the Kihraxz. Keep him cheap. No missiles. Lone Wolf or Predator are great on him. If you go very ham on him take Engine upgrade and Push the limit. On him, Glitterstim can be worthwile on your 5 attack dice turn you basically take your drugs and Target lock, so you will probably hit 5, which is something alike to Vader firing Proton Rockets

If you dont like Cobra, take the 20 point naked ship and fly something else expensive alongside Guri. Not Xizor Though!

For the rest, take other ships with Cobra and Guri if you chose to do so. I will be right back with a pretty good list.... Gimme a minute!

Talonbane Cobra (28)

Predator (3)

Glitterstim (2)

Guri (30)

Push the Limit (3)

Fire-Control System (2)

Virago (1)

N'Dru Suhlak (17)

Lone Wolf (2)

Binayre Pirate (12)

Total: 100

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For the combined cost of Suhlak and the Binayre you could also take another ace, just as you wish.

Guri is either a "she" or an "it" as she is a droid.

Personally I don't think I'd run 3 small base with 2 StarVipers, but if I did, here's what it would look like:

[34] Xizor, VI, Autothrusters

[35] Guri, Predator, Autothrusters

[31] Talonbane, Predator

You've got a Defender and Firespray, and the Kihraxz gives you a second copy of Predator, so it's runnable.

Xizor's ability doesn't matter so much as his PS here. I'd have given him the title and FCS but Talonbane needs the rerolls for his lotto-cannon. Optimally, Guri and Talonbane get stuck into a furball and Xizor jumps around it as fast as possible to cause bad choices.

Now, if I was running dual StarVipers I'd probably swap the Kihraxz for a pair of BSS Zs and give Xizor FCS.

Talonbane Cobra (28)Predator (3)Glitterstim (2)Guri (30)Push the Limit (3)Fire-Control System (2)Virago (1)N'Dru Suhlak (17)Lone Wolf (2)Binayre Pirate (12)Total: 100View in Yet Another Squad Builder

For the combined cost of Suhlak and the Binayre you could also take another ace, just as you wish.

Forgot the thrusters on Guri so no Glitterstim for Cobra... Sadface

You can say 2 Starvipers suck all you want. But look at this.

http://www.xwingminiaturesgame.com/squad-list-rebels/store-championships-scum-allowed/

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