TIE preview from Gozanti

By rhs2042, in X-Wing

Everyone take note that Youngster's ability grants them the opportunity to use his action AS THEIR ACTION. It's not like PTL, Vader or Experimental Interface where you do your action AND that.

Pretty sure most everyone here gets that, but just wanted to make sure that was clear, because it greatly reduces his power.

Also, note a fan of the name.

But Wampa? Ya, that's a winner. LOVE that name.

Youngster is definitely anti-fluff, unless it is a callsign given in jest. How could a newbie give his EPT to some other pilot?

I took a lost with an action ept to my first tournament and I know of 2-3 others who did the same. Maybe that's the reference. These were mostly scrub-identification cards before this pilot.

Does anyone have a full list of Action EPT's?

Currently: Expert Handling, Squad Leader, Daredevil, Marksmanship, Expose

Wampa is the Emporer's new best friend

Agreed. Palpmobile, 1 Ace, and a couple of TIEs might become a thing.

Awwwww, poor Corran Horn. It's a shame about that Direct Hit that slipped in under your shields.

Wampa is facedown, so Horn get's to flip him the bird whilst double-tapping the poor TIE fighter into space dust.

Thanks for catching this. Still a scary thought that he can take out Corran w/ Emperor support if only he gets 2 attacks in on him.

I LOVE IT.

Especially with how dominant Corran continues to be, it is fun to see what will likely be a niche pilot be a powerful option as a slayer of a top tier pilot, although it will clearly take fantastic flying/blocking from the Wompa flyer to get 2 shots on him.

Does anyone have a full list of Action EPT's?

Marksmanship

Daredevil

Expert Handling

Squad Leader

Not the best EPTs, that's for sure. If he would have shared his EPT fully... that would have been seriously scary.

edit:and Expose ofc, from the article.

Edited by chilligan

Does anyone have a full list of Action EPT's?

Currently: Expert Handling, Squad Leader, Daredevil, Marksmanship, Expose

We all know we gotta try Daredevil at least once, right? See how fast we can kill our own squad? xD

Awwwww, poor Corran Horn. It's a shame about that Direct Hit that slipped in under your shields.

Wampa is facedown, so Horn get's to flip him the bird whilst double-tapping the poor TIE fighter into space dust.

Until a Phantom, Decimator, Firespray, or Lambda with Saboteur gets a vote.

Edited by Hawkstrike

Does anyone have a full list of Action EPT's?

Currently: Expert Handling, Squad Leader, Daredevil, Marksmanship, Expose

We all know we gotta try Daredevil at least once, right? See how fast we can kill our own squad? xD

I bet Expose will kill your Fighters just as fast. You thought expose only "exposes" one fighter, who will tank all the damage? Wrong! I think it's a "I feel like losing a couple of Ties this round" kind of ability.

Question with Youngster is, if it allowed only actions on cards beginning with Action: header, wouldn't they add on his card "(...)perform the action on your equipped EPT Upgrade card, with the Action: header"

If above is correct, then without said "Action: header", the "action" on his card may refer not to an action in a sense of what you perform in your perfom action step, but to anything that is mentioned on an EPT card, that does something, while not being an action. You following?

Question with Youngster is, if it allowed only actions on cards beginning with Action: header, wouldn't they add on his card "(...)perform the action on your equipped EPT Upgrade card, with the Action: header"

If above is correct, then without said "Action: header", the "action" on his card may refer not to an action in a sense of what you perform in your perfom action step, but to anything that is mentioned on an EPT card, that does something, while not being an action. You following?

No, I'm not, because an action is just that- an action. Why would it be anything else? I wish it was open to use the ability of the EPT, but it is pretty clear that you can perform the action on the EPT card. Nothing else.

Edited by Kdubb

Action is only ever used in X-Wing rules to mean performing an action. It's never used for anything else.

So his ability only works with Action-headered EPTs.

I get what you mean, but if that were the case his card would read " the ABILITY on your equipped EPT card"

Edited by InterceptorMad

From the other thread: EI has much clearer language: "Once per round, after you perform an action, you may perform 1 free action from an equipped Upgrade card with the "Action:" header. Then receive 1 stress token." Emphasis mine.

They could have reused that language "from an equipped [EPT] card with the "Action:" header" and eliminated confusion.

Edited by Hawkstrike

Yeah I guess it would say "an effect" or something instead "an action", well, don't mind me then! :unsure:

Everyone take note that Youngster's ability grants them the opportunity to use his action AS THEIR ACTION. It's not like PTL, Vader or Experimental Interface where you do your action AND that.

Pretty sure most everyone here gets that, but just wanted to make sure that was clear, because it greatly reduces his power.

Also, note a fan of the name.

But Wampa? Ya, that's a winner. LOVE that name.

Youngster is definitely anti-fluff, unless it is a callsign given in jest. How could a newbie give his EPT to some other pilot?

Youngster's probably a grizzled old man.

So youngster is the reason they included Expose and Marksman ship in the Gozanti!

This could also mean that they included an EPT with the Action header! There are 3 cards that come in doubles on the top row that I don't recognize (bottom row are the Epic cards, Automated Protocols, Ordnance Tubes and Optimized Generators, along with the titles. The special gun and comms thingy is also on the top. Is it possible we get a few extra cool EPTs?

Synergistic combos in imperial lists?!?!? The sky must be falling!

But since they are only available on ties and mostly for ties it's not a big jump forward.

Wampa is the Emporer's new best friend

Agreed. Palpmobile, 1 Ace, and a couple of TIEs might become a thing.

Awwwww, poor Corran Horn. It's a shame about that Direct Hit that slipped in under your shields.

Wampa is facedown, so Horn get's to flip him the bird whilst double-tapping the poor TIE fighter into space dust.

Ah, you are absolutely correct. If he can get him twice, however.....

I am now officially off the fence on picking this thing up.

wampa, this is horn..

horn, this is ..gonna hurt.

gotta try them all out! some refreshing builds to be discovered - I love it :lol:

Raise your hand if you think there will be more Action: EPTs in Wave 8

Wampa is the Emporer's new best friend

Agreed. Palpmobile, 1 Ace, and a couple of TIEs might become a thing.

Awwwww, poor Corran Horn. It's a shame about that Direct Hit that slipped in under your shields.

Wampa is facedown, so Horn get's to flip him the bird whilst double-tapping the poor TIE fighter into space dust.

Ah, you are absolutely correct. If he can get him twice, however.....
Edited by AlexW

So Youngster could give Squad Leader to a VI Howlrunner, who could then give an action to Darth Vader or Soontir.

I don't think it offers a lot of strategic value outside of a PS10 arc dodge, but the idea of anyone giving orders to those two definitely offers some lulz.

Does anyone have a full list of Action EPT's?

Currently: Expert Handling, Squad Leader, Daredevil, Marksmanship, Expose

We all know we gotta try Daredevil at least once, right? See how fast we can kill our own squad? xD

I bet Expose will kill your Fighters just as fast. You thought expose only "exposes" one fighter, who will tank all the damage? Wrong! I think it's a "I feel like losing a couple of Ties this round" kind of ability.

If we can move off of youngster and action cards for a minute.

WHEN does wampa's ability trigger? During the attacker modifies dice step, I would assume. So he is direct damage onto agile ships, defense roll has no effect?

Does anyone have a full list of Action EPT's?

Currently: Expert Handling, Squad Leader, Daredevil, Marksmanship, Expose

We all know we gotta try Daredevil at least once, right? See how fast we can kill our own squad? xD

I bet Expose will kill your Fighters just as fast. You thought expose only "exposes" one fighter, who will tank all the damage? Wrong! I think it's a "I feel like losing a couple of Ties this round" kind of ability.

Well if you pop expose on two academies who do they shoot? Youngster? Howlie? The academies? That's not an easy choice.

Something I've learned in X-wing is there is a difference between "No good choice" and "No bad choice". In that scenario, I'm not sure I care who I'm shooting, because it's either a) a high level threat, or b) an easy kill.

I probably pop Howl first though. Let Youngster keep Exposing those acadamies if he likes. Just makes them easier for me to kill.

If we can move off of youngster and action cards for a minute.

WHEN does wampa's ability trigger? During the attacker modifies dice step, I would assume. So he is direct damage onto agile ships, defense roll has no effect?