I was just reading the Enhance Power. The way I had it read it I thought my PCs would be able to use it with Lightsaber but the only skills listed are Coordination, Piloting (Planetary), Piloting (Space), Resilience, and Brawl skill. Would you simply recommend allowing him to do that or just tell him he can't use it with Lightsaber. I haven't let him use it yet, we forgot about it in the first session.

It can also be used to up your Agility or Brawn which is how you would apply it to your Lightsabre (depending on if you took the Agility based fighting form).

Enhance is too powerful to be used with combat skills, IMHO.

Like Kael said, you may still improve your Lightsaber skill a little bit with it by increasing Agility or Brawn.

It locks you into 1 or 2 fighting forms, but in my opinion if you weren't going to use the Ataru Striker or the Shii Cho Knight then you are selling yourself short on the Enhance power.

Unless you're regularly fighting Nexu or Rancors, the Nimian Disciple basically has it's own version of enhance lightsaber, not too far off the path to FR2. It only works on Sil 1 targets, and grants successes but not advantages, but can also be used on targets outside melee range, drawing them in.

You don't need the Enhance power to boost up your Lightsaber attacks.

That's already covered under the Sense power, with the Control Upgrade that enables you to upgrade a combat check once per round. And since you need to purchase the Strength and Duration Upgrades to get there, that means that said Control Upgrade enables you to upgrade a combat check twice and do so twice per round (provided you have some means to obtain the additional action necessary to make that combat check).

Allowing Enhance to also boost Lightsaber attacks is overkill on a weapon that's already treading the line on being overkill, especially once the PCs get around to modifying that lightsaber's crystal. It'd be even worse with a double-bladed lightsaber, as the attacker will have better odds of triggering the Linked quality (due to Enhance offering the choice of successes or Advantages) once they've got two or more Force dice to add to the roll.

In a way, even being able to learn and use the Lightsaber skill is basically using Enhance (Lightsaber). There's the description of the different "schools" of force powers, and the Lightsaber is one of them. In my head, the skI'll even being open to you is a kind of Force power in and of itself.

Most Ataru users tend to pick up enhance to help with the acrobatic moves it has.

Ataru is the style Yoda uses when he's jumping around like he's riding a super pogo stick.

Ataru is also one of two styles that also qualifies as a martial art without a lightsaber.

At later levels (3 force rating and above) the Seek power becomes immensely powerful. Commit 3 force die and every attack that HITS the same target receives an automatic Triumph Until the end of the encounter!!!! I mean HOLY CRAP!

Not only that but you can spend three force points to give your weapons IMMENSE" pierce ability so you practically ignore most of an enemy's soak!!

All my players have begun eyeing it up for future levels.

Enchance has a fantastic range of applications in fights and in rp situations.

Not only that but you can spend three force points to give your weapons IMMENSE" pierce ability so you practically ignore most of an enemy's soak!!

True, although most Force-users will be doing that for free anyway once they get a lightsaber.

Not only that but you can spend three force points to give your weapons IMMENSE" pierce ability so you practically ignore most of an enemy's soak!!

True, although most Force-users will be doing that for free anyway once they get a lightsaber.

Bus non Lightsaber wielding characters can do it with blaster pistols which is just hilarious, I know at least one of my characters will be doing it.

At later levels (3 force rating and above) the Seek power becomes immensely powerful. Commit 3 force die and every attack that HITS the same target receives an automatic Triumph Until the end of the encounter!!!! I mean HOLY CRAP!

First of all this requires three force pips and not 3 force dice, secondly only your attacks get the triumph and not every attack that hits him.

Personally I use seek for the pierce rating myself on non lightsaber weapons.

Its the only way to hunt Rancor.

At later levels (3 force rating and above) the Seek power becomes immensely powerful. Commit 3 force die and every attack that HITS the same target receives an automatic Triumph Until the end of the encounter!!!! I mean HOLY CRAP!

First of all this requires three force pips and not 3 force dice, secondly only your attacks get the triumph and not every attack that hits him.

Yes, I didn't make that part clear but yes, all of YOUR attacks would get the additional Triumph.

Could you guys help me with the question bellow?

I am playing with a consular and I've bought the talent 'Niman Technique' (when making a check using the Lightsaber Skill, the character may use Willpower instead of Brawn).

If I am using enchance force power with control upgrade to increase my Brawn, can I make a lightsaber willpower check with this 'brawn bonus'?

Thanks.

Bruno.

Seems like an odd thread to put this question in, but I'll answer. If you are using Willpower to make your Lightsaber checks, then you do not get to use any bonuses provided by Enhance (as none of them apply to Willpower) for your lightsaber checks. If you decide not to use Willpower for your Lightsaber checks and instead continue to use Brawn, then you can make use of Enhance's Control upgrade after spending the action to commit the Force die.

No, unfortunately. When you make a Lightsaber attack, you decide which Characteristic you use, and build your pool based on that. So if you've chosen Willpower as the Characteristic you're using, boosts to your Brawn will have no effect.

Of course, unless you're wanting to use a talent that requires a Lightsaber (Willpower) check to use, if your Brawn is better (maybe because you've increased it with Enhance) you can always choose to use your Brawn. Nothing says you HAVE to use Niman Technique once you've bought it.

Could you guys help me with the question bellow?

I am playing with a consular and I've bought the talent 'Niman Technique' (when making a check using the Lightsaber Skill, the character may use Willpower instead of Brawn).

If I am using enchance force power with control upgrade to increase my Brawn, can I make a lightsaber willpower check with this 'brawn bonus'?

Thanks.

Bruno.

No.

If you swap the characteristic used for your Lightsaber combat check from Brawn to something else (such Willpower for Niman, Cunning for Shien, Intellect for Soresu), then your Brawn no longer plays any part in assembling the dice pool for the combat check.

Remember that you don't have to use the Form Technique talent if it'd be more beneficial to use Brawn instead. So if your example PC had a Brawn and Willpower of 3 with the Niman Technique talent, then you could opt to use Brawn to form your combat check's dice pool when boosted up by the Enhance power for your standard lightsaber attacks. But if you wanted to use something like Draw Closer, where you have to use Willpower to make the check (see the sidebar "Lightsaber (Characteristic) checks" on page 152), then your Enhance-boosted Brawn won't be of any help.

It pretty much comes down to this; if you invest in enhance and are not either a lightsaber duellist using either agility or brawn, chances are the character isn't too interested in obtaining the bonus for either of those abilities. Characters who buy into enhance either want the assortment of other related pip uses to improve certain checks by rolling the force dice, or want to invest into jump to gain superior mobility. Or alternatively wants to invest in agility/brawn for the sake of checks, or flexibility since it's not always reasonable to have a Lightsaber e.c.t.

Basically, theres plenty of reasons to invest other then boosting combat stats.

Basically, theres plenty of reasons to invest other then boosting combat stats.

Agreed.

I've had a few PCs that have invested in Enhance to varying degrees, mostly just for the boosts to skill checks with one delving into the Force Leap upgrades. Two of them were Ataru Strikers, so the boost to Agility would have been highly useful, but they never got around to buying that upgrade before the campaigns they were in closed up shop.

Basically, theres plenty of reasons to invest other then boosting combat stats.

Agreed.

I've had a few PCs that have invested in Enhance to varying degrees, mostly just for the boosts to skill checks with one delving into the Force Leap upgrades. Two of them were Ataru Strikers, so the boost to Agility would have been highly useful, but they never got around to buying that upgrade before the campaigns they were in closed up shop.

Aye, as soon as a character gets a force rating 3 or greater, those force powers really do allow people to pull off extra ordinary feats for minimal investment. I guess that makes being a force senstive worth it. the entry fee is really high, but once your in the venue the drinks are cheap.