Why take sensor jammer?

By Edrahil135, in X-Wing

I guess I just miss the point of sensor jammer. Roll one of the attacker's <hit> to a <focus>. Why would that be good, when they can just spend a focus (or ability,or marksmanship)to put it back. 4 points to incentivize the attacker taking a focus action over other actions, which is already a really popular action. And only when attacking that ship.

Enlighten me please.

Edited by Edrahil135

Because each time your attacker doesn't have a focus, you save a hit.

If it procs twice, it was worth 6 points.

It hurts ships that rely on rerolls.

Wes, Carnor, and Palob synergize with it.

It forces them to use it on offence and prevents it from being used on defence. They may be blocked and unable to focus, or arc dodged and didn't focus, or any other reason they dont have a focus (asteroids, Wes Janson)

It tends to neuter the crap out of TLT Y-wings since they're not going to have a focus for both shots (and might not have it for either depending on vars conditions).

The Palpmobile becomes surprisingly tank with the addition of the jammer.

when you have 8 ships K turn facing right at you with and you have Sensor Jammer its like there not throwing dice

They get better the more ships you are facing, and are therefore particularly excellent in Epic.

Here's a post I wrote a week ago saying why Sensor Jammer is awesome:

photo-thumb-142507.jpg?_r=1431263076 Posted by Red Castle on 21 November 2015 - 08:30 AM

WWHSD, on 20 Nov 2015 - 8:56 PM, said:snapback.png

Sometimes an upgrade like sensor jammer may not have an obvious benefit in a game but actually ended up being effective anyways. Sure, your opponent may have a focus token to change the eyeball back to a hit but if they only spent the focus token because of the sensor jammer, the upgrade essentially negated their action for the turn. Further, the token they spent isn't available to them on defense.

Exactly this. That why Sensor Jammer is so wonderful.

The full benefit of Sensor Jammer is of course if your opponent doesn't have a focus to modify his roll: TLTs I'm looking at you!

But the real benefit is forcing your opponent into an action and spending a token he could have otherwise kept for defense.

Let's say you're up against IG-B and C. Usual tactics of those ship is to boost into range for the Evade, shoot at you, then shoot again if they missed with the TL from FCS. If you have Sensor Jammer, will they still boost to get the evade or just Focus? They have to make a choice, offense or defense? Same if going against a Fat Han that usually either Boost or Evade as an action, now what should he do? If he doesn't take a Focus, he's pretty much down to a 2 attack dice turret and no token to help defend himself. Same goes for pretty much any ship. ''Forcing'' an action can really mess with your opponent plan.

Now to actually spending the token. Like WWHSD said, maybe they would not have needed to spend it in the first place and still have it for defense (say against a ship with Juke). Against ship with multiple attack, like TLTs, unless it's a Recon Hwk, they won't have a Focus for both attack, so Sensor Jammer will help you negate at least one hit. If they have gunner, on which attack to spend the token? The first or the second? Let's say they roll a perfect 3 hit roll, you then change a hit to a Focus, so 2 hit+1F. From your side you still have your 3 agility and Focus (and Autothrusters if against a turret) to defend yourself. Should they spend the focus right now, or hope that you need to spend yours to defend now and then roll another roll without blanks with gunner.

Sensor Jammer role might not always be obvious, sometimes you might feel like that you just wasted 4 point on a useless upgrade. But believe me, it will mess with your opponent. Action economy is a big part of this game and having some kind of control on the economy of your opponent can be huge!

Hmm, the only bleh thing about it is it only comes with a Lambda.

Been using it on Guri with Autothrusters, title and Predator and she just shrugs off TLT's :)

A lot of players lock when they need to focus, esp in "casual" games where you get people who don't play as often or only play Alliance. It also punishes people who do red manuevers in situations where they don't really need to, or who call primary on the starviper when they really should be shooting at something else.

Whisper with a sensor jammer...4 green dice + focus/evade and one shot down from sensor jammer. Same for any ship with a stealth device. Tough to break through, but not impossible.

These are all fantastic examples. Thanks. I'll have to pull it out and see how I can get in my opponents' heads in new and exciting ways.

Hmm, the only bleh thing about it is it only comes with a Lambda.

Been using it on Guri with Autothrusters, title and Predator and she just shrugs off TLT's :)

If you plan on playing Imperials, the Lambda also has Rebel Captive and Vader crews which are some of the best upgrades in the game.

remember, if the opponent gets bumped, he cant focus

then SJ is just a free better-than-evade

Sensor jammer is worth it's weight in gold in Epic. Not only because it works against all ships shooting, so the defensive effects elongate, but Epic ships can't focus and they can't reroll the eye now, so unless they've Kallus'd you or have Han solo crew, you can effectively get a free miss from any Epic ship shot.

Hmm, the only bleh thing about it is it only comes with a Lambda.

Been using it on Guri with Autothrusters, title and Predator and she just shrugs off TLT's :)

Nonsense, Lambdas are even more awesome than sensor jammers. Everyone should have three of them.

Hmm, the only bleh thing about it is it only comes with a Lambda.

Been using it on Guri with Autothrusters, title and Predator and she just shrugs off TLT's :)

Nonsense, Lambdas are even more awesome than sensor jammers. Everyone should have three of them.

The alabaster nebular cow is awesome, and the look on your opponent's face when you jump into combat range on the first move is funny

It's actually an ATTACK upgrade, it forces the for to use up Focus on attack, downing his defense green dice from 5\8 to 3\8

It's actually an ATTACK upgrade, it forces the for to use up Focus on attack, downing his defense green dice from 5\8 to 3\8

Pretty old myth. Its defensive if they don't have/can't spend focus. Its especially good against multiple attacks for the same reason. It effectively turns 1 TLT attack into 2-dice roll.

It's actually an ATTACK upgrade, it forces the for to use up Focus on attack, downing his defense green dice from 5\8 to 3\8

Pretty old myth. Its defensive if they don't have/can't spend focus. Its especially good against multiple attacks for the same reason. It effectively turns 1 TLT attack into 2-dice roll.

Nothing is better than forcing that filthy Interceptor to use the focus on it's attack and almoust double your chance to scratch it's hull.

p.s. Still I love my advanced sensors more.

It's actually an ATTACK upgrade, it forces the for to use up Focus on attack, downing his defense green dice from 5\8 to 3\8

Pretty old myth. Its defensive if they don't have/can't spend focus. Its especially good against multiple attacks for the same reason. It effectively turns 1 TLT attack into 2-dice roll.

It's both. It just depends on how they choose to use their focus. If you're trading shots with a ship that has higher PS, they're inclined to use their focus for offense so they won't have it for defense--thus making it an attack upgrade.

If you're trading shots with a ship with lower PS, they're more likely to use their focus defensively, so they won't have it for offense--thus making it a powerful defensive upgrade.

If you think of it as either an attack or defensive upgrade, it's easy to think it's not worth the 4 points and the use of a very valuable system slot.

Hmm, the only bleh thing about it is it only comes with a Lambda.

Been using it on Guri with Autothrusters, title and Predator and she just shrugs off TLT's :)

Nonsense, Lambdas are even more awesome than sensor jammers. Everyone should have three of them.

Don't get me wrong I love my space cow... the tough part is finding another one in stock in the outer rim of X-Wing distribution land so I can have multiple sensor jammers :)