One thing not mentioned in this thread is that TRC's themselves are less effective when firing at ships with Evades - as so much of the shot's output is based on a single dice, cancelling that single dice in turn is very effective.

I will once again disagree with this idea. If the ship has an Evade and uses it to nullify the die you've altered with TRC, then technically he has negated a die you've modified as you say. But, if the die was a blank before, then that evade would be nullifying another die if you didn't use the TRC, and if you changed a single to a double then it's a die that might have already been nullified before.

Example, my NebB rolls three red dice and gets a Crit & single Hit & Miss, I use my TRC to change the miss to a double Hit, the enemy evades my double Hit, and the end result is two damage with a Crit being delivered. Same example without the TRC, I get the same Crit/Hit/Miss result on three dice, my opponent nullifies the Crit, and I deliver a single damage point without a Crit.

Example two, my NebB rolls three red dice and gets a Crit & a double Hit & single Hit, I change the single to a double Hit with TRC, my enemy removes one double Hit die with Evade, and I deliver three damage and a Crit to him. Or, I don't have the TRC, m opponent Evades the double Hit, and I deliver two damage and a Crit to him.

Now, please explain why the TRC is wasted, given my above examples, because the enemy uses an Evade token? Even if he uses the Evade, I will always be doing at least one more point of damage to him with the TRC in every example I can come up with, over not using the TRC.

By the way, I'm not debating the merits of using Turbolasers over going naked upgrade wise, I'm just debating the merits of the TRC for the NebB.

why are you debating the merits of it for a neb?

It seems to me it is Auto-include on a corvette, kinda meh on a neb (only 1 evade) but potentially good depending on list composition

The NebB is a long range sniper, unlike most ships it doesn't get more dice as it gets closer, and the TRC is one way to not only increase but actually insure extra damage at any range for it. How is that "meh?"

Only having a single evade won't matter at long range, as a NebB with TRC at long range pumps out more damage than a VSD or GSD, and that single Evade can't even be counted on if the enemy gets an Accuracy effect.

The argument becomes "take a Turbolaser upgrade or don't", and not so mch "which Turbolaser for the NebB" to me. Those three red dice don't pump out enough damage for the X17 to really shine. Unless you're using the Support variant, the Slaved Turret seems straight out, and even with the Support I would rather take the guaranteed +1 to +2 damage of the TRC over an extra red die. And the other Turbolasers just keep dropping from there to me, an HTT versus other NebB's is about it, but how many times do you run into NebB vs NebB battles anyway? Well, maybe you guys do more often, but I'm The NebB guy in my neighborhood, so not often enough for me to pack them.

Me personally, I run two NebB's in my list, and two NebB's each sporting the TRC is two to four more damage a round of shooting for me. I'm all over that myself, but that's just my opinion on the subject.

I sense you feel strongly about this...

Trust me I think it's good but just "meh" on the neb but I do agree most other turbolaser upgrades are worse I am just surprised you care about TRC Neb-bs so much

My only argument with you at this point, is over the "meh" on a NebB versus "auto include" on the CR90. Other than possibly activating two Evades for two attacks with the Corvette, I really don't see how it's so much better on it than it is on the Frigate. Especially considering that the NebB relies on its Brace token for defense with the Evade as an afterthought if it doesn't get nullified by Accuracy, while the CR90 relies on its Evade token with the Redirect being less effective because of limited shields and the possibility of an Accuracy.

My NebB flips its single Evade to get the damage bonus from TRC, and still has both Brace tokens waiting for defense. Your CR90 flips one Evade token for the damage bonus, hopes the enemy doesn't get an Accuracy to lock the other Evade token, and if it does it has nothing left but a Redirect on a ship with a low Engineering rating for shield repairs. Just seems the NebB has better synergy with TRC than the CR90, but I will concede that this is simply my opinion versus yours.