Clone Wars content in future waves?!

By Jimbo2142, in Star Wars: Armada

I dont know if this is already discussed before, but what do you think about some stunning clone wars ships on your Armada table?

Wave 2 is just around the corner and from that point on we got the most important imperial/rebel ships known from the movies in the game (nearly all ships from the movies, expecpt the rebel transporter GR-75, Liberty and Executor) and a really deep/working mechanic of the civil war stuff.

So what do you think about Wave 3 (or in general future waves) to be Clone Wars Waves? If Wave 3 will contain 2 new ships and squadron packs like Wave 2, we could imagine a completely working Clone Wars content in one Wave so 2 republic ships and 2 CIS.

Just think about the Episode III Battle over Corouscant and how superb it would be on the table.

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No.

I don't mind, the understanding I have is the technologies of Star Wars are old and change ever so slowly. So for my thoughts we probably shouldn't be too surprised if the Emperor had some old rust buckets floating around.

Yes please.

The custom CW stuff looks great. Would be a great addition down the line. Around wave 5.

I wouldn't mind if they did, as the ships look pretty cool. However due to the stat system FFG uses for Armada I don't see it happening, since the Clone Wars era ships should be inferior to GCW era ships there is just too little room within the lower spectrum of the stats to create interesting ships. Would like to see maybe an Acclamator for the Imps (as they still used them) and one CIS ship for the rebels though.

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Not gonna happen. There is nothing prequel in the other ffg minis games and it seems the prequels are being distanced from by Disney.

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Eeeeeeeeh, I'm just really not into the Clones Wars aesthetic or theme. From a faction standpoint it's a solid 'meh' from me as there's nothing and no one who appeals to me on either side of that conflict.



I don't universally hate the Clone Wars equipment based on principle, I mean, I'd might pick up some ARC 170's, Providence, and Munificent, but I'm not champing at the bit for it. I'm more interested in the unfolding Force Awakens story than the Clone Wars, and there's sitll a lot for the age of the Empire that I'd like to see.



There's a lot of concept material in the Clone Wars that just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Without derailing the topic and without non-solicited diatribes which just go to show how desperate I am to see wave 2, Clones as good guys, droids, and Jedi don't do anything for me. All the best to people that like it, if we get it ( I shan't complain), but It's not my cup of tea.


I'll pass. I want more Galactic civil war era stuff, no waves catering to the prequel era or pirates.

Tech wise, the clone wars stuff would work. Awaken TIEs are better then Star Wars TIEs, but not by much, if the new box set is to be believed.

The 2 big hangups are theme and just how god awful the acting, script and characters were in the last three movies. FFG doesn't want to burst your tactical suspension of disbelief by having Luke blowing up General Grevious s on his Trade Federation battleship. And the Mouse wants too put those movies in the vault next to the Christmas episodes.

If they just re shot Phantom, Clone and Revenge, I could see Clone Wars ship being sold by the Mouse. Until then, Get thee to a 3d printer!

I will agree that I'm not terribly interested in seeing prequel content. HOWEVER, we already do have Clone Wars content in the game: the venerable Victory-class Star Destroyer hails from the Clone Wars.

I wouldn't mind if they did, as the ships look pretty cool. However due to the stat system FFG uses for Armada I don't see it happening, since the Clone Wars era ships should be inferior to GCW era ships there is just too little room within the lower spectrum of the stats to create interesting ships. Would like to see maybe an Acclamator for the Imps (as they still used them) and one CIS ship for the rebels though.

This was a big debate a couple of months ago. I don't even remember what topic it was on. But the consensus seemed to be that there really was not a technological boom between the two trilogies , rather, there was a change of mentalities (best seen in the change from Arc 170's to Tie's). So Clone Wars ships wouldn't necessarily need to be worse. However, I would rather see Imps having Republic ships and Rebs have Sep ships, which according to various legends' sources, was the case.

I'm pretty sure that FFG explicitly said at some point that they would not do Clone Wars stuff. Though I believe the context was X-Wing, I imagine the same applies to Armada.

With that in mind, the second set of custom ships, squadrons and upgrade cards from Shipyards will be a fully standalone Clone Wars environment, with Venators, Acclamators, Peltas, Arquitens, Consulars, ARC-170s, V-Wings, Jedi Starfighters, etc. And of course Munificents, Recusants, Providences and all manner of droid and Sith starfighters for the Separatists. Early versions of some of that material are already up on the website already, though the bulk is still to come.

I dont think the Clone Wars will be featured in Armada.

BUT

I do believe The Clone Wars fits better the style of war despicted in Armada.

I will agree that I'm not terribly interested in seeing prequel content. HOWEVER, we already do have Clone Wars content in the game: the venerable Victory-class Star Destroyer hails from the Clone Wars.

X-wing and TIE Fighter in the early 90s, actually, if not the even older RPG books. They may have appeared in the Clone Wars cartoon but they certainly didn't make their first appearance there, much like other things like the Z-95 and the Hound's Tooth.

I dont think the Clone Wars will be featured in Armada.

BUT

I do believe The Clone Wars fits better the style of war despicted in Armada.

Ya, Clone Wars did have the big boys facing off.

Will we see the Republic and Separatists as factions about a 90% chance of no, considering I don't think FFG has that era as a part of their contract or just don't like that era at all. They seem to be big Star Wars fans, and a fair number of fans hate the prequels so it wouldn't be surprising if they shared that view. That said there is the chance that we may see some Clone Wars era ships, provided that they were used by either the Rebels or the Empire.

For example any Republic era ship from the CGI Clone Wars series that also shows up in Star Wars Rebels I think has a fair chance of being added. Which means we will probably get the Pelta class frigate for the Rebels since one was used as Phoenix Home. And the Empire will get access to the Arquiten cruiser. As for other Republic era ships the Empire at some point may get the Acclamator seeing as it was in Empire at War same as the MC30 and Assault Frigate MK II. And we might see the Venator Star Destroyer at some point considering that it was used by the Empire at the end of episode 3, though if FFG doesn't have the rights to the prequel era that ship will probably be left aside.

2 more factions (like Republic and CIS) would give Armada a new dimension and depth. I know, some people got a problem with the prequel contents, BUT its a huge part of the Star Wars universe with all that ships, characters, etc. and I think we cant disclaim that.

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2 more factions (like Republic and CIS) would give Armada a new dimension and depth. I know, some people got a problem with the prequel contents, BUT its a huge part of the Star Wars universe with all that ships, characters, etc. and I think we cant disclaim that.

FFG can and does.

Yeah unfortunately FFG seems to have problems understanding that the ships were among the good things about the prequels and thinks everything from the PT was bad. While I was admittedly disappointed by the overall capital ship inventory of the PT I have nothing against the individual designs.

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I will agree that I'm not terribly interested in seeing prequel content. HOWEVER, we already do have Clone Wars content in the game: the venerable Victory-class Star Destroyer hails from the Clone Wars.

X-wing and TIE Fighter in the early 90s, actually, if not the even older RPG books. They may have appeared in the Clone Wars cartoon but they certainly didn't make their first appearance there, much like other things like the Z-95 and the Hound's Tooth.

I think you misunderstand me: in the canon, the Victory-class Star Destroyer was created during the Clone Wars by the Republic and thus it was inherited by the Empire when the Republic became the Empire. That's been established in-setting for some time, even before we knew what the Clone Wars even were. Thus, Victory-class Star Destroyers are "Clone Wars content."

Yeah unfortunately FFG seems to have problems understanding that the ships were among the good things about the prequels and thinks everything from the PT was bad. While I was admittedly disappointed by the overall capital ship inventory of the PT I have nothing against the individual designs.

I don't think that's the problem. I think they are being strategic in their marketing. Fans of the prequels won't leave X Wing, or Armada just because FFG doesn't include those things, but people who hate the prequels might leave the game if FFG does include them. Look at the number of people who left X Wing because of the Scum faction. Not A ton, now imagine something significantly more polarizing.

i think it would be awesome to have a Clone Wars system at a smaller scale. Kind of an Epic 40k for Armada.

I will agree that I'm not terribly interested in seeing prequel content. HOWEVER, we already do have Clone Wars content in the game: the venerable Victory-class Star Destroyer hails from the Clone Wars.

X-wing and TIE Fighter in the early 90s, actually, if not the even older RPG books. They may have appeared in the Clone Wars cartoon but they certainly didn't make their first appearance there, much like other things like the Z-95 and the Hound's Tooth.

I think you misunderstand me: in the canon, the Victory-class Star Destroyer was created during the Clone Wars by the Republic and thus it was inherited by the Empire when the Republic became the Empire. That's been established in-setting for some time, even before we knew what the Clone Wars even were. Thus, Victory-class Star Destroyers are "Clone Wars content."

Using that logic Luke and Leia are Clone Wars content

I'm pretty sure that FFG explicitly said at some point that they would not do Clone Wars stuff. Though I believe the context was X-Wing, I imagine the same applies to Armada.

Correct it was their CEO at an interview during worlds 2014 with Team Covenant. He said Galactic civil war forward.

I will agree that I'm not terribly interested in seeing prequel content. HOWEVER, we already do have Clone Wars content in the game: the venerable Victory-class Star Destroyer hails from the Clone Wars.

Do we ever see the Victory-Star Destroyer in the Clone Wars cartoons? That's the thing, there's a few old ships from legends that have been around "since the clone wars" but when the opportunity comes, we never see them. Sure the Y-Wing is there but that's almost literally the only thing. Z-95s were even a variant. Where were the Dreadnoughts and Victory-Star Destroyers?

I believe Emperor Peterson says he does not like Clone war stuff, so I doubt we will see anything.

Although a lot of cool ships from that era. Could you imagine the challenges of playing the Malevolence?