if you would change the YV-666 model to fit the artwork of Moraldos' pilot card?

There are minor differences to the model itself, most obvious are the cockpit windows.

What do you think?

Only paint can be different, no other physical mod is legal for tourneys

As long as it's still obvious that it's a YV-666 and not another ship, like say a Firespray or something unidentifiable, then I'm sure you'll be just fine.

I think the purpose of that model modification rule is to prevent shenanigans where someone comes in with a fleet of hodge podged ships that could be anything and then he claims "this one is a TIE Fighter, This one is a TIE Phantom, etc" in an attempt to confuse and mislead his opponent.

Only paint can be different, no other physical mod is legal for tourneys

Technically this is true. Practically physical mods are accepted most of the time unless it's made the model unrecognizable.

I would still recommend having a stock YV with you as backup, just in case someone doesn't like it, since it technicaly is illegal.

That cockpit window appears on Eval's card because they're using old art. That's what the Hound's Tooth's front window looked like when it was over 60 metres long (about the same size as a Gozanti). The window is much smaller because the cockpit is much smaller relative to the ship: they redesigned the window in TCW when they rescaled the Tooth because the window was then comically small. While you could mod the cockpit, you'd be making the ship look out of scale.

That cockpit window appears on Eval's card because they're using old art. That's what the Hound's Tooth's front window looked like when it was over 60 metres long (about the same size as a Gozanti). The window is much smaller because the cockpit is much smaller relative to the ship: they redesigned the window in TCW when they rescaled the Tooth because the window was then comically small. While you could mod the cockpit, you'd be making the ship look out of scale.

And THAT YV-666 is the TRUE 666.

Three-decked Trunk of awesome and gruesome!

666 IS out of scale, just as Firespray, Aggressor and some others.

lets be honest guys, you could hit a brick with a large hammer, put one of the shards on the plastic pole, and no-one would be able to tell the difference. accordingly, no-one will care if you use a minutely modified version of the real thing.

and if they do, hit them with the rest of the brick.

Only paint can be different, no other physical mod is legal for tourneys

Only paint can be different, no other physical mod is legal for tourneys

Technically this is true. Practically physical mods are accepted most of the time unless it's made the model unrecognizable.

I would still recommend having a stock YV with you as backup, just in case someone doesn't like it, since it technicaly is illegal.

this. I say: Go wild and paint/convert the heck out of it! most (all?!) people really appreciate something 'special' on the table, it enhances the game in so many levels;

that said: if there is one of those nay-sayers out there, be prepared and bring a stock-model, too.

the thing is to be gentle and polite about it - though you are free to think of "forcing someone to bring the stock-model" whatever you like.

I'd say think that such people haven't gotten the spirit of the hobby and are only there for their ego/the prices, not the fun.. but: a tournament is a tournament is a tournament.

let's treat the people "without the spirit" with equal respect that we expect ourselves - for the tournament-time. I highly doubt they'll be in for the fun-part afterwards, anyway (talking about geeky stuff and having a beer ..or 2)

That cockpit window appears on Eval's card because they're using old art. That's what the Hound's Tooth's front window looked like when it was over 60 metres long (about the same size as a Gozanti). The window is much smaller because the cockpit is much smaller relative to the ship: they redesigned the window in TCW when they rescaled the Tooth because the window was then comically small. While you could mod the cockpit, you'd be making the ship look out of scale.

The 60 + meter long Houndstooth is the correct scale for the ship that Bosk has during the civil war era

Source?

There aren't two completely different sizes of YV-666 flying around, and if there were they wouldn't both be designated YV-666. Bossk doesn't have a Russian doll-style set of Hound's Teeth. His YV-666, the Hound's Tooth, is one ship, and the sources for its size in the Legends canon contradict because TCW likes overwriting stuff. (If you treat TCW as part of the new canon only like I do, then it's the larger form in Legends with the line-window). The sources for its size in the new canon (pretty much just TCW so far I think) don't: it's at the scale presented in X-wing which I think is about 40m.

Nowhere do both versions co-exist, the closest you get is the Schrodinger's Cat-esque undefined state of the TCW-inclusive Legends Tooth. The Tooth is either the smaller, large windowed version or the bigger, line windowed version. The FFG Tooth is modelled on and scaled to the new canon version.

666 IS out of scale, just as Firespray, Aggressor and some others.

All the scales are based on LFL's official numbers (also used by the animated series they make so many of now) and measurement of models. On the Firespray I couldn't disagree with you more: make it significantly bigger and the cockpit window is even more comically oversized, significantly smaller and it looks tiny next to the starfighters. The Aggressor has so few sources that who knows what the proper size for that is meant to be?

The Tooth is scaled correctly to its TCW appearance.

as some as said, paint only for a tourney to be safe, as the Mouse that oversees the game could get mad if you were to have it on a primer table in play. I have a kick butt HWK that is mod, and still looks like a HWK, but I would imagine that if it were on the table and videod I would be asked to change it, which sucks, as it was done before the change in rules.

as some as said, paint only for a tourney to be safe, as the Mouse that oversees the game could get mad if you were to have it on a primer table in play. I have a kick butt HWK that is mod, and still looks like a HWK, but I would imagine that if it were on the table and videod I would be asked to change it, which sucks, as it was done before the change in rules.

In the case of Evals 666 the differences are on his pilot card.

So if you would change the model to fit the artwork, it would even easier to recognize him.

To fit the respective artworks is what i want to do.

Until then it was only a different paintjob.

But now there are minor differences on the model itself.

And then: how could it illegal if your model matches the artwork of the pilot card??

Seems like the rules needed to be updated.

All the scales are based on LFL's official numbers (also used by the animated series they make so many of now) and measurement of models. On the Firespray I couldn't disagree with you more: make it significantly bigger and the cockpit window is even more comically oversized, significantly smaller and it looks tiny next to the starfighters. The Aggressor has so few sources that who knows what the proper size for that is meant to be?

The Tooth is scaled correctly to its TCW appearance.

I understand that it's the correct size by the numbers, but what bugs me is how is a Zed supposed to fit inside in such a manner that it makes a functional escape pod without taking up almost all of the interior room?

I think part of the problem with scale is that one person picks a set of numbers for the length/width/height and someone else adds functionality that doesn't necessarily jive with that or without considering the consequences or a(nother) canon source comes along later and overwrites the original size without being able to keep the Z-95 AND the jacuzzi...

It's all space-fantasy make-believe, so I'm not terribly invested, but that's where scale arguments come from.

666 IS out of scale, just as Firespray, Aggressor and some others.

. The Aggressor has so few sources that who knows what the proper size for that is meant to be?

The Tooth is scaled correctly to its TCW appearance.

It's description is simple: it's a shell filled to the brim with weapons and engines, no life support systems lest for the prisoner hold, cockpit cruped so hard that only a droid will fit, inertial systems removed for some "kill the pilot" high-G maneuvers.

On a single-manned fighter chassis.

And we get an XBOXHUGE thing as if it's Falcon-size beast. With cokpit for a pilot, co-pilot and a wookie.