Motti3x ISD I + XI7 + Gunnery Team
Oh, goddammit.
Ardaedhel vs Rekkon
OH GODDAMMIT!
Motti3x ISD I + XI7 + Gunnery Team
Oh, goddammit.
Ardaedhel vs Rekkon
OH GODDAMMIT!
I'm assuming you mean Maturin and not Monturin.
Anyone want to play for fun tonight?
I'm assuming you mean Maturin and not Monturin.
I'm sure I did. Too much Balder's Gate on the mind I suppose.
Keep the stats up, I love shh like this.
Can you do a ship breakdown?
Yup, that was one of the things I wanted to get to as well. Original post is updated with it.
My Objectives are:
Precision Strike
Fleet Ambush
Dangerous Territory
Okay, got some data broken down here for funsies (yes, I do data analysis on Armada tournaments stats for funsies). If you don't see a stat that you're curious about, ask and I'll pull out the data.
Factions
12 Imperial
15 Rebel
Admirals
There are SEVEN of us playing Ackbar in this tournament: by far the most-taken admiral. Next-most popular is Motti, at 5. Ackbar is obviously the new hotness; I think Motti is just popular right now because STAR DESTROYERS. The one that really surprises me is the single Vader in the field. I think he's really good, but maybe that's because I'm a Rebel and he's just good at projecting fear.
Rounding out the list, we have 3 each of Garm, Mon Mothma, and Ozzel; 2 Screeds; and 1 of each of the others.
Fleet point value
- Mean: 394.7
- Mode: 390
Pretty even spread throughout the 390's for initiative bids. Five people swaggered in yelling "come at me, bro" at 400 points, while NebulonB was so confident in his 388 bid that he just posted his objectives for the world to see, since nobody will get to pick initiative over him anyway. Overall, this is substantially lower than we normally see in my area. I wonder how much of that is due to the publicly-posted lists...
Activations
Activations run the gamut, with Ceryliae and Green Squadron brazenly pinning their hopes on 2 ships; while Biggs, Brozojoe, and JJs Juggernaut bringing 5 each. Interestingly, no real Raider swarms, which I really expected to see. Most people are running 3-ship builds (15), with several 4-ships as well (7).
Deployments
CaptainICT's ten Rebel fighters and stripped-down ships let him out-deploy anybody else, which will give him the advantage he'll need in deploying those B-Wings and completely naked MC80 flagship. Doobleg and Deadshane went entirely the other direction and sacrificed deployment for a monster gunline and a 183-point ISD2, respectively. Otherwise, nothing too remarkable on the deployment front, with a pretty even spread between the extremes. Of note, 12/27 players took an odd number of fighters, foregoing deployment considerations to get the specific fighters they wanted.
Points Ratios
This one I pulled out just cause I was curious. A couple of the questions I see a lot from new players are how many upgrades and how many fighters they should take. While obviously there's not a hard-and-fast answer, I'm curious to see the performance of the various ratios. For now, overall ratios for ships to upgrades to squadrons are roughly 3/1/1: 61% of points were spent on ships, 22% on upgrades (including admirals), and 17% on squadrons. The ratios in the lists vary widely, though. I think there will be some more interesting data coming out of this section once we can analyze placing and MoV against it.
Squadrons
Only Doobleg was fool enough to bring no fighter screen at all(edit: Rekkon, too. Fffffffffff....). I was nearly right there with him, before I chickened out a few days ago. I'm definitely interested to see how you fare, though, because I like to think that all-ship is still viable.
On the other hand, we have about 8 people who are really leaning hard on their squadrons, with 6 lists over 100 points. The only real Wave 1-style Rhymer ball I see is Reath28, which is a relief to me because I ******* hate them. There are a couple of Firespray-centered Rhymerballs, though, which will be interesting to see. I personally don't think Firesprays are as great as everybody else does, which means I'm probably wrong.
Points Pinatas
There are a lot of tasty points pinatas in the field. The award for biggest, meanest point dump goes to Qark for Darth Vader's ridiculous 184-point ISD2 Relentless of which I am, quite frankly, ******* terrified. Honorable mentions go to the four-way tie for second place, with 2 ISD2's and 2 Command MC80's clocking in at 183. You horrible people responsible for these atrocities, you know who you are.
Ships Breakdown
A total of 92 ships of all types are joining the field of battle, 52 Rebel and 38 Imperial. CR90A's are the most popular (not particularly surprising), with a total of 13 of them in play, followed closely by the Empire's 11 GSD-I's. Three types are completely unrepresented: AF2A (unsurprising, they're wasted points), Raider-II (also unsurprising), and the GSD-II. I'm a little surprised nobody took the GSD-II, as it's been gaining popularity locally ever since the advent of a consistent squadron meta, but maybe it just hasn't caught on elsewhere yet. The full breakdown:
13 - CR90A
11 - GSD-I
9 - ISD-II
8 - Raider-I
7 - MC80C, AF2B
6 - MC30S, MC30T, Neb-B (E), ISD-I
4 - Neb-B (S)
3 - MC80A
2 - CR90B, VSD-I, VSD-II
0 - AF2A, GSD-II, Raider-II
Hope you guys enjoyed this. If there's anything you're curious about, let me know and I'll post it. I've got a couple more things I want to find out myself, but it's pizza time right now.
edit: updated to account for Rekkon's last-minute add and to add the ship breakdown. I'd like to do the same for fighters, but not sure I'll get to it.
First of all, heck, I love what you are doing here, most interesting.
Secondly, where the hell did I post my objectives? ![]()
Or just admonishing me for not stating them? ![]()
Do we have a count on total rogues? I've seen multiple people with 'sprays and 2400s, not sure how common any other rogue squadrons are though.
Do we have a count on total rogues? I've seen multiple people with 'sprays and 2400s, not sure how common any other rogue squadrons are though.
I haven't broken out a lot of the fighter data yet, nor did I get the spreadsheet posted before I got called away unexpectedly tonight. May be tomorrow night before I get to this.
BiggsIRL: Since you have a bye going would putting another player in work? We got about a week to get the game in. Let me know!
First of all, heck, I love what you are doing here, most interesting.
Secondly, where the hell did I post my objectives?
Or just admonishing me for not stating them?
It... would appear I misspoke. First time for everything, I suppose.
Must've gotten you mixed up with somebody else, there are a couple or three folks who did post their objectives. I was right in that it really doesn't matter for you, though, since you'll be picking initiative every game... ![]()
Speaking of which, PSA: if you posted your objectives, probably want to go back and take em down... Biggs said it's honor system not to change them, and having access to them will inform your opponents' decision if they're choosing player 1 or player 2.
BiggsIRL: Since you have a bye going would putting another player in work? We got about a week to get the game in. Let me know!
Seems preferable. Byes are quite boring for the player involved.
I would agree:
Empire Fleet (398 of 400 pts) <Bid = 2>
Commander: Admiral Screed (26 pts)
Flagship: (104 pts)
Fleet Ship 1: (86 pts)
Fleet Ship 2: (49 pts)
Squadrons (133 of 134 pts):
Is what I'd be running.
Edited by Bitharne
BiggsIRL: Since you have a bye going would putting another player in work? We got about a week to get the game in. Let me know!
Seems preferable. Byes are quite boring for the player involved.
+1 (says the guy with the bye) ![]()
*** VASSAL VASSAL VASSAL ***
I recommend that all players DOWNLOAD AND RE-INSTALL 2.1.5 before playing.
CHECKSUM SHOULD BE: 96bfd8b6
It's not a big deal, just some people having trouble with placing the maneuver tool left (from the menu, the shortcut SHIFT+CTRL+LEFT works as normal) and experiencing repeated tiling upon startup (doesn't really impact gameplay much, so is not essential).
I've also had a report of command dial changes not getting reported. This has to do with the turn number = 0. As stated in the 2.1.0 readme you have to update to turn 1 for get reports to trigger.
Edited by Green KnightI would agree:
Empire Fleet (398 of 400 pts) <Bid = 2>
Commander: Admiral Screed (26 pts)
Flagship: (104 pts)
- Victory I-Class Star Destroyer(73 pts)
- Warlord (8 pts)
- Ordnance Experts (4 pts)
- Heavy Turbolaser Turrets (6 pts)
- Expanded Launchers (13 pts)
Fleet Ship 1: (86 pts)
- Gladiator I-Class Star Destroyer(56 pts)
- Demolisher (10 pts)
- Wulff Yularen (7 pts)
- Engine Techs (8 pts)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes (5 pts)
Fleet Ship 2: (49 pts)
- Raider I-Class Corvette(44 pts)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes (5 pts)
Squadrons (133 of 134 pts):
- 2x Tie Fighter Squadron (16 pts)
- 2x Tie Interceptor Squadron (22 pts)
- 1x Howlrunner Tie Fighter Squadron (16 pts)
- 1x Tie Bomber Squadron (9 pts)
- 1x Major Rhymer Tie Bomber Squadron (16 pts)
- 1x Aggressor Assault Fighter (16 pts)
- 1x Firespray-31 (18 pts)
- 1x Punishing One - Dengar (20 pts)
Is what I'd be running.
Bye player is okay with it, so I'll allow it.
DAB DARKLIGHTER vs. GREEN KNIGHT: Saturday, December 5th, 7 PM (GMT).
Deadshane vs Captain ICT
Tuesday December 1. 3pm Central -6:00
Biggs vs Zanos (the hands of fate)
Tuesday @ 8:30pm EST (12:30am Wednesday, GMT)
I am in!!
UK Time (GMT 0.00 I think)
Available to play Monday and Tuesday evenings. Weekends preferred, however.
Will post list soon!
EDIT:
Presenting the seafood stirfry
Flagship: Cuttlefish Prime- 172
SHIP:MC80 Assault Cruiser 114
UPGRADES
Admiral Ackbar: 38
Advanced Projectors: 6
Redundant Shields: 8
Heavy Turbolaser Turrets: 6
Shrimpo 1: 81
SHIP: MC30c Scout Frigate 69
UPGRADES
Assault Proton Torpedoes: 5
Turbolaser Reroute Circuits: 7
Shrimpo 2: 81
SHIP: MC30c Scout Frigate 69
UPGRADES
Assault Proton Torpedoes: 5
Turbolaser Reroute Circuits: 7
The sides:
YT-2400: 16
YT-2400: 16
Dash Rendar: 24
Total: 390 pts
Edited my post (page 1) with my list
Good try, but still going to get blown away
Oh has the trashtalk begun?
Your mother was a womp rat, and your father smells of Bantha poodoo! ![]()
You scruffy looking nerf-herder
Ardaedhel vs Rekkon, tentatively scheduled for Wednesday at 1900 CST (GMT -6), though subject to change.
In Soviet Russia, shrimp eat YOU!
Im gonna kick the Dooku out of everyone!
Edited by DeadshaneIm gonna kick the Dooku out of everyone!
Truthiness vs Maturin
Tonight, 7-9pm PST
We'll be Teamspeaking...perhaps on Ceryliae's very generously donated server?
Edited by Maturin