The Gozanti just can't handle the awesomeness of the Punishest. Don't even try. Having 4 of the uber bombers all in one place would create a black hole of awesomeness so awesome that everything in the universe would jump the shark.
Why not any type of Tie on a Gonzati?
I too was hoping ANY type of TIE could be loaded. I'm more upset that the four TIEs it carries must be uniform. I happen to love using Advanced to run along side Bombers as support.
This is my main concern as well, any sort of escort (ln, Int, adv) to two bombers would have been great.
The docked fighters are the escort for the Gozanti. Although a load of bombers would be a great assault force, backed up by another Gozanti loaded with Interceptors or advanced aces
Looking at the design of the docking clamp I don't think those other ties can attach to it with out some serious modding. I'm surprised the TIE bomber fits after looking at it.
Edited by Radarman5How long before someone mods TIEs to fit 'correctly' by moving the clear peg holder to the dorsal hatch and filling in the hole on the central side? 5 min after getting th gozer...or has someone already done so?
Alternative real reason.
If the Gozanti could take phantoms, defenders and punishers. Someone would make it into a cloaking HLC firing torpedo blazing voltron.
How long before someone mods TIEs to fit 'correctly' by moving the clear peg holder to the dorsal hatch and filling in the hole on the central side? 5 min after getting th gozer...or has someone already done so?
Probably already done. What I want to see is someone that goes to the trouble of sawing their TIE apart, hollowing it out, and placing a magnet on the inside. Magnet in the clamp and Robert's your father's brother.
Looking at the design of the docking clamp I don't think those other ties can attach to it with out some serious modding. I'm surprised the TIE bomber fits after looking at it.
I believe, with the way the docking clamps are designed on the model, TIE Bombers will not fit. I was surprised that FFG included them on the list that could dock. I thought that they would keep it to models that can physically dock to the Gozanti.
Edited by zathras23Several reasons feel free to take your pick.
Defenders, phantoms and bombers all had long range hyper drives and were independant ships
They all were specialized ships and had few squadrons of them
None of them phisically fit on a gonzati
Edited by GungoEdit: Disregard.
Edited by Engine25Alternative real reason.
If the Gozanti could take phantoms, defenders and punishers. Someone would make it into a cloaking HLC firing torpedo blazing voltron.
*science ninja team Gatchaman*
Edited by JJFDVORAKProbably already done. What I want to see is someone that goes to the trouble of sawing their TIE apart, hollowing it out, and placing a magnet on the inside. Magnet in the clamp and Robert's your father's brother.How long before someone mods TIEs to fit 'correctly' by moving the clear peg holder to the dorsal hatch and filling in the hole on the central side? 5 min after getting th gozer...or has someone already done so?
This is a great idea. I think I might try this. All you'd have to do is cut off the clear peg receiver on the bottom, hollow it out with a drill bit the same diameter as the clear pegs, jam a small rare earth magnet that is again the same diameter as the pegs in there, and reglue the clear peg receiver back in so it is flush with the bottom of the ship. I'm sure I can find a magnet small enough. The magnet in the clamp would have to be bigger but it would work and only take a few minutes to do.Probably already done. What I want to see is someone that goes to the trouble of sawing their TIE apart, hollowing it out, and placing a magnet on the inside. Magnet in the clamp and Robert's your father's brother.How long before someone mods TIEs to fit 'correctly' by moving the clear peg holder to the dorsal hatch and filling in the hole on the central side? 5 min after getting th gozer...or has someone already done so?
This is what I have been planning on doing ever since I saw they were upside down. It should be pretty simple to do!
I wonder if it is going to be worth the effort. Do you plan on having some TIEs for hanging and others for playing?
Defenders and Phantoms were designed to be long range craft that could operate without any sort of capital ship support. So, thematically, that's why they can't. The Tie advanced, I think, didn't quite have that capability, so that's why it can.
I have no idea about the Tie punisher. Probably cause it's a giant mess of a starfighter
Maybe they meant the TIE Adv which we all know doesn't mean TIE Advanced.
Oh the pain of it all... ![]()
I wonder if it is going to be worth the effort. Do you plan on having some TIEs for hanging and others for playing?
I was wondering the same thing. I'll end up with extras so maybe gluing them on? But then visually it won't be Bombers or Advanced.
My latest Advanced, from the Raider, is extremely loose fitting anyway. Actually jiggles on the peg. And one of my bombers has the peg mounted backwards for some reason. Never worried about it until now.
Edited by Ken at SunriseInterceptors, TIE/ln, Bombers and several of the EU TIES were built according to standard Imperial methodology. Overwhelming numbers for the lowest price.
This means, no life support, no shields, no hyperdrive, no armor.
Defenders, Punishers (Interdictors), Phantoms, Advanced (X1) all represent a shift in Imperial thinking. That said none of them went into full production because of prohibitive costs. For example one Defender cost the same as 5 standard TIE/ln.
The Gozanti is designed as a quick response area denial and interdiction carrier. By comparison it is small and fast and lightly armed. This mission profile does not require massive firepower or Advanced ops. Just some firepower in the right place. The Gozanti is a support craft generally paired with a Decimator or as an addition to Old Republic era Garrison cruisers on the Outer Rim.
Thats why.
Interceptors, TIE/ln, Bombers and several of the EU TIES were built according to standard Imperial methodology. Overwhelming numbers for the lowest price.
This means, no life support, no shields, no hyperdrive, no armor.
Defenders, Punishers (Interdictors), Phantoms, Advanced (X1) all represent a shift in Imperial thinking. That said none of them went into full production because of prohibitive costs. For example one Defender cost the same as 5 standard TIE/ln.
The Gozanti is designed as a quick response area denial and interdiction carrier. By comparison it is small and fast and lightly armed. This mission profile does not require massive firepower or Advanced ops. Just some firepower in the right place. The Gozanti is a support craft generally paired with a Decimator or as an addition to Old Republic era Garrison cruisers on the Outer Rim.
Thats why.
Still prefer my explanation, also yours doesn't cover why not Advanced.
The Gozer is a re purposed old republic era escort freighter that has been retrofitted so that it can carry a few TIEs on racks.
this is an awesome discussion!
Interceptors, TIE/ln, Bombers and several of the EU TIES were built according to standard Imperial methodology. Overwhelming numbers for the lowest price.
This means, no life support, no shields, no hyperdrive, no armor.
Defenders, Punishers (Interdictors), Phantoms, Advanced (X1) all represent a shift in Imperial thinking. That said none of them went into full production because of prohibitive costs. For example one Defender cost the same as 5 standard TIE/ln.
The Gozanti is designed as a quick response area denial and interdiction carrier. By comparison it is small and fast and lightly armed. This mission profile does not require massive firepower or Advanced ops. Just some firepower in the right place. The Gozanti is a support craft generally paired with a Decimator or as an addition to Old Republic era Garrison cruisers on the Outer Rim.
Thats why.
It's kinda funny that everyone keeps saying TIEs offered no life support, but that's the first I heard of no 'armor'.
That suit the pilots wear couldn't provide life support for lengthy patrol duty unless it was 'plugged in' to the TIE to provide supplemental life support. I suppose the claim comes down to not pressurizing the cockpit. Rebels of course shows unprotected individuals flying TIEs and not dying, so some kind of life support must be present.
The myths about TIEs are repeated over and over and pretty much enshrined in the wiki. The /ln models were not particular cramped (cockpit had more room that X-wings and y-wings) or small, the wings and pylons/struts have about as much mass as an x-wing minus the hyperdrive and shrinking the engines to tiny exhaust ports. There's even evidence that the TIEs serving picket duty for the first Death Star had some shielding, given the special effects shot of the Falcon's guns firing on the sentry ships in the rebels' escape.
Also the TIE advanced existing at the same time as the has TIE as well as the a Avenger and Defender programs coming to fruition at about the time the Interceptor began production prove that the Empires starfighter doctrine included both cheaper production models and higher-end shielded craft being fielded simultaneously throughout the rebellion era. In fact the TIE Fighter game shows the reasons why the Avenger and Defenders never went into true mass production: Imperial defections and destruction of production facilities meant that ultimately these two fighters had much lower numbers than planned. Cost didn't seem to be much of a concern for an empire that could build Death Star after Death Star.