I beg your pardon Blue Five but imagine a situation where move up with the Gozanti and when near the enemy you decide to drop Vader, Strom (With PTL), Steele (With PTL) and Alozen all with Advanced targetting Computer and Prockets.

Bad day for the Rebellion.

Actually i'm wrong, you're right it can carry bombers. Somehow missed that on the card. Still... 2 Gozers..... bombers and inters...

Epic. in so many ways.

TL;DR?

Docking IS cool.

/thread

So..... Jonus docked on Gozanti, which is carrying ordnance experts. Raider full of missiles and torps. Does the Raider get to change one blank to a hit and get two rerolls on each shot?

No, Jonus is not in play.

Also.. and this is really minor

Gozers can't carry TIE Bombers.

I could have sworn Bombers were listed on the card

They were, i missed it and was mistaken.

They were, i missed it and was mistaken.

We all make mistakes. From time to time. Especially when excited. .

_{I remember some mistakes I made, just because I was *ahem excited}

As long as you're carrying Jonus on a Gozanti, may as well put Rhymer on there with him. That way, he's protected from those pesky Single Turbolasers and CR-90 primary weapons until he reaches optimal Advanced Homing Missile range.

Fighter carrier, interceptor carrier, bomber carrier or the almost completely pointless Advanced Carrier.

Only pointless if you don't have raider and 4 advanced to use that juicy title with.

So can I mix FOs withth LNs since they're both tie fighters ?

Too bad about TAPs, but better than breaking it with tie/x1

Yeah, avoiding that start of game joust is NEVER pointless.

They were, i missed it and was mistaken.

We all make mistakes. From time to time. Especially when excited. .

_{I remember some mistakes I made, just because I was *ahem excited}

Yeah my range extender suffers from that problem.

I am curious about TAP's. Kinda crazy if they are not allowed considering we see one on a Gozanti on screen but I don't plan on buying more than maybe two TAPs anyway.

Fun thing with RAC crew you can deploy all four Ties in one turn. Maneuver, deploy 2, RAC action maneuver, deploy other 2.

I guess the Advanced Prototype might skate by under the (slightly contentious) naming convention rules, but disappointing that the TIE/FO can't be carried, I guess it is because they are from the future (well really the past, just not as much of the past as the others). The sloop is the perfect move to do off the back of a Gonzanti.

Docking Clamps is not very future proofed unfortunately.

The future of imperials hopefully sees something other than a "Tie".

They could always make "Advanced Clamps" with different ships listed... Just not much room on the card.

The card itself will be interesting as it doesn't predict future releases.

I'm not sure how they'll really handle that.

The rules say that TIE/FO Fighters can take TIE Fighter only upgrades, so why wouldn't a TIE/FO Fighter not be able to dock on to a clamp that allows TIE Fighters? The same would also apply to TIE Advanced Protypes by the same logic.

Not sure that the logic is correct there though...

That's why this'll need faqs.

That particular card will need many, i'm trying to think of a better way they could have done it but... can't see it.

The rules say that TIE/FO Fighters can take TIE Fighter only upgrades, so why wouldn't a TIE/FO Fighter not be able to dock on to a clamp that allows TIE Fighters? The same would also apply to TIE Advanced Protypes by the same logic.

Which rules exactly? Technically you are right about the TIE advanced (though there are some issues yet to resolve there around whether TIE protos can take the TIE Advanced only upgrades, I don't want to get into that here).

As far as I am aware the TIE/FO never has the word "fighter" attached to it which is what it needs for it to be able to classified as a TIE(/FO) fighter. It is simply referred to as a TIE/FO and does count as a TIE for TIE only cards, but not a TIE fighter.

So..... Jonus docked on Gozanti, which is carrying ordnance experts. Raider full of missiles and torps. Does the Raider get to change one blank to a hit and get two rerolls on each shot?

No, Jonus is not in play.

Also.. and this is really minor

Gozers can't carry TIE Bombers.

But a trio of Bombers can ride up safe useing this new glorioues ship to block for them. This is a smart way to play since the good ole Tantive came out. But here since you have TIE escorts to zoom out in frony firt the slow meanie Bomber can get some work done right in the middle of the battelfield all fresh... if you fly it all together and wait for thre best moment to nail the coffin shut!

The Gon-Zillah is one of the best expansions for strategic games.

STAR WARS IS EPIC. And now you CAN get that game EPIC Glory going for REAL my Star Brothers.

It's better than you know yet mate. You've not seen the other goodness it's giving us, have you? (Suggest reading the silence has broken thread. Enjoy). (Picture new uses for the CR90s...)

The rules say that TIE/FO Fighters can take TIE Fighter only upgrades, so why wouldn't a TIE/FO Fighter not be able to dock on to a clamp that allows TIE Fighters? The same would also apply to TIE Advanced Protypes by the same logic.

Which rules exactly? Technically you are right about the TIE advanced (though there are some issues yet to resolve there around whether TIE protos can take the TIE Advanced only upgrades, I don't want to get into that here).

As far as I am aware the TIE/FO never has the word "fighter" attached to it which is what it needs for it to be able to classified as a TIE(/FO) fighter. It is simply referred to as a TIE/FO and does count as a TIE for TIE only cards, but not a TIE fighter.

Page 20 of the rules reference from the new core set.

Ship-type only: This upgrade con only be equipped to a ship of the specified type. If the ship's type includes the entirety of the restricted type, it can equip that upgrade. For example, a TIE/fo fighter can equip an Upgrade card restricted to "TIE Fighter only."

(Emphasis mine)

Whilst this rule is regarding which ships can equip which upgrade cards, I think it's the nearest we have to a precedent to work with.

Checking the cards, the FO is called "TIE/fo Fighter" on the pilot cards, so they work. The only difference for the TIE Advanced Prototype is that they've had to abbreviate "Advanced" to "Adv." for space reasons. In this case I think it's pretty clear that the TIE Advanced Prototype is still a TIE Advanced Prototype.

I agree. Wait for official word but for Theorycrafting purposes, I would expect that both Tie/FO and TAP's are a go for Gozanti.

Yeah, so would I. In a casual that's how I'd rule it.

The rules say that TIE/FO Fighters can take TIE Fighter only upgrades, so why wouldn't a TIE/FO Fighter not be able to dock on to a clamp that allows TIE Fighters? The same would also apply to TIE Advanced Protypes by the same logic.

Which rules exactly? Technically you are right about the TIE advanced (though there are some issues yet to resolve there around whether TIE protos can take the TIE Advanced only upgrades, I don't want to get into that here).

As far as I am aware the TIE/FO never has the word "fighter" attached to it which is what it needs for it to be able to classified as a TIE(/FO) fighter. It is simply referred to as a TIE/FO and does count as a TIE for TIE only cards, but not a TIE fighter.

Page 20 of the rules reference from the new core set.

Ship-type only: This upgrade con only be equipped to a ship of the specified type. If the ship's type includes the entirety of the restricted type, it can equip that upgrade. For example, a TIE/fo fighter can equip an Upgrade card restricted to "TIE Fighter only."

(Emphasis mine)

Whilst this rule is regarding which ships can equip which upgrade cards, I think it's the nearest we have to a precedent to work with.

Checking the cards, the FO is called "TIE/fo Fighter" on the pilot cards, so they work. The only difference for the TIE Advanced Prototype is that they've had to abbreviate "Advanced" to "Adv." for space reasons. In this case I think it's pretty clear that the TIE Advanced Prototype is still a TIE Advanced Prototype.

Sorry, that would be me being lazy, I didn't bother to go check the TIE/FO cards, you are correct. Logically they should be allowed.