Looking for an ace killing wingman for Corran

By surly88, in X-Wing

I currently have some great results with this build:

Corran Horn (35)
Push the Limit (3)
Fire-Control System (2)
R2-D2 (4)
Engine Upgrade (4)

Total: 48

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He's basically my go-to ship right now. He singlehandly killed 2 Aggressors, killed various Dash or Miranda builds and also almost always comes out ahead when he faces TLT spam lists. Basically whenever I face something with lower PS than him I feel pretty confidant that he can pull of a win.

However, most of his strength comes from his dreaded range 1 double taps, and most ships with PS9+ won't stay there since they simply boost away. Which mainly concerns these lists:

Han and Jake (the combination at least - Han alone is a walk in the park)

Soontir, Vader and PalpMobile

RAC with Whisper/Soontir/Vader and initiative bid

VI Corran or Poe with anything

I tried a lot of different options so far for the remaining 52 points, but can't really come up with anything that can gun down some of these ships. Main targets are Soontir, Vader, Whisper and Jake, since they see the most play in our area.

Right now I'm considering Jake myself and an A-Wing Protopilot with 4 points of initative bid, though I'm not so sure if I like it or not.

Any input you can give me would be highly appreciated. I'm sure there's a decent ace-killer option for 52 points that simply didn't come to my mind.

Thanks a lot, cheers! :lol:

I run 48 pts Corran with poe and one tala.

Corran with R2D2,Predator,Engine Upgrade,FCS

Poe with BB8,PTL,Autothursters

Tala

100 pts.

you can swap tala for bandit if u want a smal bid.

also Predator and PTL are interchangable on corran but i tend to do better with the former one

Poe with vi, auto thrusters, and r5p9?

Thanks for the replies!

I run 48 pts Corran with poe and one tala.

Corran with R2D2,Predator,Engine Upgrade,FCS

Poe with BB8,PTL,Autothursters

Tala

100 pts.

you can swap tala for bandit if u want a smal bid.

also Predator and PTL are interchangable on corran but i tend to do better with the former one

Well, since both Corran and Poe have PS8 it doesn't really threaten something like Soontir any more than Corran alone would ... I guess? :unsure:

Poe with vi, auto thrusters, and r5p9?

Yeah I played with Nathan's worlds build for quite some time, even before it became popular when he placed that high. And while Poe is great, he never really felt like he could hunt down something like Soontir. Most of the time he simply wants to focus since it's just so strong on him combined with R5P9, sometimes he boosts and very rarely has the time to TL.

So even when he gets a nice shot, most of the time he won't have a reroll, which hinders his offensive potential a lot. Because throwing 2-3 hits at Soontirs face won't really cut it unless Soontir gets really unlucky ...

Imo Poe is a great ship, and super efficent for 37 points, but imo more of a take all corners ship than a really specialiced one, meaning he's good at everything and can do many things good, but none of them perfect. I see his most potential in a list like Heaver's one actually ...

Am I the only one whith this impression of Poe?

PS race at it's finest...

Take Lando+VI

he moves after you, and (you don't PTL yourself!)

triggers an action.

and it then triggers PTL (finally!)

so your Horn suddenly has 1-2 movement actions at PS9. Out-ardodging pesky arcdodgers!

try the popular dash/corran combo.

or, if you want to try something new, take a different yt2400. against high-ps-aces, most people generally use the outrider/hlc to threaten/kill the ace and corran sticks around the yt, covering the r1-hole.

the nice thing is that the list is VERY flexible and you can basically do whatever you like. the bad thing is - you'll have to fly an ugly e-wing mini, but that's personal taste^^

The TLT stresshog, the awnser to all your action dependant opponents. Mix in 2 Z's for blocking and lane clogging and soontir will have nowhere to go but into range 2/3 of your Y.

try the popular dash/corran combo.

or, if you want to try something new, take a different yt2400. against high-ps-aces, most people generally use the outrider/hlc to threaten/kill the ace and corran sticks around the yt, covering the r1-hole.

the nice thing is that the list is VERY flexible and you can basically do whatever you like. the bad thing is - you'll have to fly an ugly e-wing mini, but that's personal taste^^

1. cut off the cameltoe nose.

2. glue plastic

3. make it a straight, angular prolonged nose.

4. add some length to wings, the ends look cut

5. paintjob

6???

7. awesome.

p.s. without modifications E-wing really IS ugly.

Edited by Warpman

Corran is a pretty good Ace Killer...

Corran is a pretty good Ace Killer...

... when he has VI. Without, he has a really hard time getting them.

Sadly, my playgroup won't let me play 2 of him. Such wimps :blink:

Edited by surly88

Give Corran vi, and for a wingman a gold (or grey) y wing btl with r3a2. Once an ace has 2 or 3 stresses they become pretty easy to kill.

Corran is your ace killer with VI if you're not digging Poe. That's about it. The PS War is real and Corran is a victim of it.

Corran lists don't necessarily need to kill aces. You have so many more points that it's enough to just not die.

And your opponent knows that. So they have to gun for him.

Jake seems like he has some potential for a strong one shot at PS 9 and Proton Rockets, and having Boost and Barrel Roll available makes him able to keep up with other arc dodgers. Admittedly the 2 Attack after the alpha strike of the prockets as a downside, but hopefully you've landed a decent amount of damage and got rid of any annoying Stealth Devices in the process.

Jake Farrell (24)
Push the Limit (3)
Proton Rockets (3)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Autothrusters (2)
A-Wing Test Pilot (0)
Total: 33

I hate to say it but maybe Han: vi and gunner

Corran is a pretty good Ace Killer...

... when he has VI. Without, he has a really hard time getting them.

Sadly, my playgroup won't let me play 2 of him. Such wimps :blink:

you're lucky he isn't banned.. YET *still trying to*^^

corran+r2d2 is a (the!) pest. without the rengen-o-droid ..

..maybe a petition to restrict r2d2 to "luke skywalker only" would be better

can't have unfaithful droids around here..! :-D

Edited by WokeUpDead

Surprised no one has mentioned: Gold, TLT, R3-A2, BTL

EDIT: Never mind, someone did mention it, I'm just blind.

Double stressing their ace makes killing them with yours (even a PS8 one) much easier.

Edited by Hida77

Surprised no one has mentioned: Gold, TLT, R3-A2, BTL

Double stressing their ace makes killing them with yours (even a PS8 one) much easier.

Someone did:

The TLT stresshog, the awnser to all your action dependant opponents. Mix in 2 Z's for blocking and lane clogging and soontir will have nowhere to go but into range 2/3 of your Y.

how about Miranda TLT and Tactician.

leaves enough for Proto with Refit, or Bandit with ion pulse missiles... allowing for control of enemy ace.

Any form of applying stress is going to work because the only reason aces have an advantage on Corran is being able to perform actions after him. Remove those actions and they're sitting ducks.

Poe with vi, auto thrusters, and r5p9?

Imo Poe is a great ship, and super efficent for 37 points, but imo more of a take all corners ship than a really specialiced one, meaning he's good at everything and can do many things good, but none of them perfect. I see his most potential in a list like Heaver's one actually ...

Am I the only one whith this impression of Poe?

I see him as an ace counter with regen and resilience to TLTs. It's hard to ask for more!

I think he pairs perfectly with a PTL R2D2 Corran. Corran's only weakness is PS9+ aces which Poe covers quite well. Furthermore, having two regen ships is a nightmare for anyone.

VI Ten Numb with Mangler owns the imperial squads you listed. I actually destroyed an imperial ace squad with him this week. Opening volley reduced Soontir to a baby faced academy pilot. That was picked off by a lowly wingman. He doesn't like TLTs though.

Edited by 2Hard

Ten Numb still got game!

Back to Poe, though: I played against my friend's 'Nathan' list twice last night, my god the double Regen is a pain! Both games, though, the dark lord of the sith managed to hunt Corran down and eviscerate him before he could do his normal trickery. Vader is such a goddamn bully, ever since I got the Raider he's an autoinclude in every list.

As for Poe, the guy is great but you have to be careful: lay a block on him and he weeps. A high-skill, but also a highly-forgiving list, funnily enough. My friend made a few big errors, but had the chance to bring it right back.

Looks like fun, and definitely get my thumbs up as the answer to your question...

Edited by banjobenito

I've actually been toying around with the idea of a Wild Space Fringer with Intel Agent and Ion Projectors as a nice ace-counter. It clocks in at 40 points, but between its incredible dial, large base, built in barrel roll, and Intel agent so you know right where you need to be... Well there simply is no better blocker out there. Block that ace, take away his actions, and get a 50% chance of ionizing him too.

It might be a little lacking in overall firepower, but you could fit the wild space blocker and Corran and a prototype in a list.

Edited by Herowannabe

Have Roark ace for you.

Give Craken VI and have him hand Jake actions at PS 10. Might be the start of a fun squad if missiles get one more buff