Concentrate Fire Token Question

By Lucrin, in Star Wars: Armada Rules Questions

So I am a little unclear on the allowed order for taking a concentrate fire token. You don't have to expend a concentrate fire command dial until after you roll your attack. So, for example if I reveal a concentrate fire command dial and then roll my attack and I am happy with the result, can I at that point decide to cash in the command dial for a token to save for later? Or, do I have to expend the dial for a token immediately as soon as I reveal it? Thanks for the clarification.

The ONLY time you can change any dial to a token is immediately after the dial is revealed.

The ONLY time you can change any dial to a token is immediately after the dial is revealed.

I wanted to respond to affirm that this is the correct answer. Makes the timing rather tricky with Concentrate Fire, I'm afraid. If you're using black or red dice primarily, you might be able to safely bank the token as you're likely to roll a blank anyways - rerolling a blank dice is exactly the same as rolling one more dice (unless you have another source of rerolls). Obviously this won't work with blue dice though and you never know when you might not roll a single blank dice ;) .

One other thing the OP may not know: because you can only resolve each command once per activation, if you decide to do a Concentrate Fire command you would need to spend both your dial and a token at the same time if you wished to use them both. You could not apply a dial to one attack and a token to another (as that would be using the command twice in the same activation).

Video is a bit long (once I get better software. . . I will remake it) but it goes over all the commands.

So I am a little unclear on the allowed order for taking a concentrate fire token. You don't have to expend a concentrate fire command dial until after you roll your attack. So, for example if I reveal a concentrate fire command dial and then roll my attack and I am happy with the result, can I at that point decide to cash in the command dial for a token to save for later? Or, do I have to expend the dial for a token immediately as soon as I reveal it? Thanks for the clarification.

Whenever you reveal any command dial, you must at that point commit to either using the dial for its full effect in that activation, or trading it for a token (which gives a lesser effect). The token could still be used in the same turn, or kept for a future turn. Ships can have as many tokens as their command value and cannot have more than one of the same type of token.

Once you have decided to keep/trade the dial, engineering and squadron commands are resolved immediately, whilst concentrate fire and navigate commands are resolved during those steps in the activation.

You can only perform each command once per turn, regardless of if you have a dial, a token, or a dial and a token.

So for example, as given by another poster above, you cannot use your dial on your first attack and your token on your second, as that would be doing the same command twice in your activation, but you could use your dial and token together on one attack.

The grey area around this is if you have to spend the dial and token before you see the results of the extra dice rolled e.g, you roll 3 hits and want to add a 4th dice, having to commit to the reroll token before even rolling the dice is strange as it goes against the way other rerolling or modifying effects work in the game. (i.e. evade tokens, you get to see the result before spending other tokens) and the fact you get to see the original roll before choosing to use the dial to add the dice. Infact, during the worlds final for Armada it looks like this was exactly the way the Imperial player used it - he rolled, added a dice, then took the token off his ship and rerolled a dice. I have put a request for clarification in to FFG but havent heard back yet.

Edited by MaverickNZ