shooting helpless target

By jack_px, in Dark Heresy Rules Questions

the rules only states what happen if you hit a target in melee, but what about ranged attacks?, would you get a bonus at least??

I don't think so. It's not different as shoot a bottle.

Yea but you actually get a bonus from shooting a stuned target

As written there isn't any bonus but that's stupid since stunned does give one so I'd give at least as good a bonus as shooting a stunned target, probably more. +30 maybe.

As written there isn't any bonus but that's stupid since stunned does give one so I'd give at least as good a bonus as shooting a stunned target, probably more. +30 maybe.

Yep, thats my point it should be even easier than shooting a stunned target, ill use it like this :3

As written there isn't any bonus but that's stupid since stunned does give one so I'd give at least as good a bonus as shooting a stunned target, probably more. +30 maybe.

Yep, thats my point it should be even easier than shooting a stunned target, ill use it like this :3

It is in the rules. You can find it in Table 7-5 on p.231. +30 for attacking a Surprised or Unaware target.

As written there isn't any bonus but that's stupid since stunned does give one so I'd give at least as good a bonus as shooting a stunned target, probably more. +30 maybe.

Yep, thats my point it should be even easier than shooting a stunned target, ill use it like this :3

It is in the rules. You can find it in Table 7-5 on p.231. +30 for attacking a Surprised or Unaware target.

This is not the same thing. Just because you are helpless doesn't mean you are unaware or surprised. One of the most common ways of being considered helpless is when trapped by a snare weapon. You can be and likely are very aware of an enemy while webbed to the wall or tied up by a bolas.

I use +30 for helpless targets since I think it is a similar state as being surprised or unaware.

I rule +30 on immobilized targets (like those under webs), for completly helpless targets (unconcious, sleeping, tied etc.) I use the old rpg rule: full round action and target dead. I make exceptions depending on weapon and target for ex you cannot make a coup de grace on a spacemarine with a kinfe and so on. You can make a coup de grace with ranged weapons under 5m, if it seems appropriate even more.