Most of these have to do with the raider.

Right now, I'm trying to get an answer from FFG themselves, because a friend of min insist that the rule book for the raider is correct. You get 2 primary shots, and for 2 energy, a third shot. The argument has gone on and gotten heated. Nothing but an actual answer from FFG will change his mind on that. So, I wait, and I will post the response here when I get it [which I noticed in another thread that the response is... The second shot was the one for 2 energy...]

The Allusion to "Two Primary Attacks" in the rule book is a reference to the ability to spend 2 energy to perform the attack a second time. The Raider only gets 2 primary weapon attacks" So that puts that to bed!

Second...

The raider can fire its primaries out of all printed firing arcs correct? There isn't anything that says other wise as I've found in the book and it makes sense to me. Or is it only the front arc?

Third...

When shooting at a huge ship, you may target the front or the back, just so long as your line does not trace through the blue line on the card correct? You do not fire at the closest point on the ship at all times?

The Raider only gets 2 primary weapon attacks" So that puts that to bed!

Yes. The rules are actually quite clear on this point. He's trying to use flavor text to trump the rules themselves.

I'd ask him to point out in the actual rules where it says the Raider gets 2 free primary attacks.

Second... Or is it only the front arc?

Only the front arc. That might be in the FAQ, or perhaps it's only in a email someone posted here. But I know FFG clarified that.

When shooting at a huge ship, you may target the front or the back, just so long as your line does not trace through the blue line on the card correct?

Correct, you can fire on either section as long as that section is a legal target.

There is no FAQ for Epic unfortunately =( And that is in fact what he did. In the Raider Rule Book under attacking with the raider, it quite clearly states that the raider gets 2 primary attacks. However, I now have in my hands an email from a designer that says "No, the raider gets 1 attack and for 2 energy, a second attack."

I'd like to find that "front arc only" thing. I actually made that mistake and told the other guys I thought it could fire from all arcs.... But it makes sense now. The primary is listed on the forward card only.

When shooting at a huge ship, you may target the front or the back, just so long as your line does not trace through the blue line on the card correct? You do not fire at the closest point on the ship at all times?

But what happens, if a Tantive wants to shoot with the primary weapon (range 3-5) at a Raider whose front is at range 2 while the rear is at range 3 and where you are crossing the blue line?

If I understand the rules correct, the Tantive cannot attack the Raider at all, because you can’t shoot at the front (< range 3) and are not allowed to shoot at the back, because you cross the blue line.

To me this concept makes no sense! Either you can attack the rear which is in range, or in the other case with the front blocking the path you would hit the front by accident…

What do you think?

Under the Huge Ship Rules PDF on Page 2, it states:

Huge Ship Attacks
During the Combat phase, each huge ship may perform one attack with its
primary weapon and may perform one attack with each of its secondary
weapons. Each attack must be fully resolved before it begins another.

I'm not sure how much more clear than this we're expecting it to be. The Raider special ability on the Fore section allows it to take a second primary attack, for 2 energy.

Source: https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/2d/47/2d47a35a-6ec7-4d4b-a262-efacde97dfa3/huge_ship_rules.pdf

Under the Huge Ship Rules PDF on Page 2, it states:

Huge Ship Attacks

During the Combat phase, each huge ship may perform one attack with its

primary weapon and may perform one attack with each of its secondary

weapons. Each attack must be fully resolved before it begins another.

I'm not sure how much more clear than this we're expecting it to be. The Raider special ability on the Fore section allows it to take a second primary attack, for 2 energy.

Source: https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/2d/47/2d47a35a-6ec7-4d4b-a262-efacde97dfa3/huge_ship_rules.pdf

I totally agree with you! We got into a bit of a spat the other night because "Well one rule book says this, and one rule book says that, and this card is trumped by rules and and and and." =/ Was not entertained!

FAQ trumps special card text trumps Rules, at least how I see things.

When shooting at a huge ship, you may target the front or the back, just so long as your line does not trace through the blue line on the card correct? You do not fire at the closest point on the ship at all times?

But what happens, if a Tantive wants to shoot with the primary weapon (range 3-5) at a Raider whose front is at range 2 while the rear is at range 3 and where you are crossing the blue line?

If I understand the rules correct, the Tantive cannot attack the Raider at all, because you can’t shoot at the front (< range 3) and are not allowed to shoot at the back, because you cross the blue line.

To me this concept makes no sense! Either you can attack the rear which is in range, or in the other case with the front blocking the path you would hit the front by accident…

What do you think?

Simillar things can happen to any ship trying to attack a huge ship. One section can be out of arc while the same section blocks the shot on the other section. It's not very intuitive, but it does mean no shot is possible.

When shooting at a huge ship, you may target the front or the back, just so long as your line does not trace through the blue line on the card correct? You do not fire at the closest point on the ship at all times?

But what happens, if a Tantive wants to shoot with the primary weapon (range 3-5) at a Raider whose front is at range 2 while the rear is at range 3 and where you are crossing the blue line?

If I understand the rules correct, the Tantive cannot attack the Raider at all, because you can’t shoot at the front (< range 3) and are not allowed to shoot at the back, because you cross the blue line.

To me this concept makes no sense! Either you can attack the rear which is in range, or in the other case with the front blocking the path you would hit the front by accident…

What do you think?

Simillar things can happen to any ship trying to attack a huge ship. One section can be out of arc while the same section blocks the shot on the other section. It's not very intuitive, but it does mean no shot is possible.

Where in the rules does it say you MUST attack the closest section of a huge ship? Everything I've read says you choose a section, then measure. As long as your ruler doesn't cross the blue line, you're good.

Where in the rules does it say you MUST attack the closest section of a huge ship?

you don't have to attack the closest section. But it is possible to have one section be out of arc, but also block the other section.

Here's the rules from the PDF. "To target a huge ship, choose a section (either fore or aft) of a huge ship that the attacking ship can target normally. Then, measure a line from the exact center of the attacking ship’s base to the exact center of the base for the chosen section of the huge ship. If this line is not obstructed by the blue center line on the huge ship’s ship token, the attacker can declare the chosen section as his target."

That means you can have the for section out of arc, but not be able to trace the line from the center of the attacker to the center of the rear section. Here's a picture of it. You can see the green line crosses the blue line on the Raider meaning the rear section isn't legal. But the fore section is not in arc so it too is not a legal target.

Where in the rules does it say you MUST attack the closest section of a huge ship?

you don't have to attack the closest section. But it is possible to have one section be out of arc, but also block the other section.

Here's the rules from the PDF. "To target a huge ship, choose a section (either fore or aft) of a huge ship that the attacking ship can target normally. Then, measure a line from the exact center of the attacking ship’s base to the exact center of the base for the chosen section of the huge ship. If this line is not obstructed by the blue center line on the huge ship’s ship token, the attacker can declare the chosen section as his target."

That means you can have the for section out of arc, but not be able to trace the line from the center of the attacker to the center of the rear section. Here's a picture of it. You can see the green line crosses the blue line on the Raider meaning the rear section isn't legal. But the fore section is not in arc so it too is not a legal target.

Is this a Vassal error? If I compare this diagram to a picture on google, it almost seems as if the line is drawn from the "exact middle of the attaking ship's section" instead of "the exact middle of the ship's base" in the case of the Raider.

Is this a Vassal error?

It's not precise, but it was a quick setup I did to give a visual example.

But you draw the line to the middle of the base for that section, which is pretty close to where I drew that line.

Under the Huge Ship Rules PDF on Page 2, it states:

Huge Ship Attacks

During the Combat phase, each huge ship may perform one attack with its

primary weapon and may perform one attack with each of its secondary

weapons. Each attack must be fully resolved before it begins another.

I'm not sure how much more clear than this we're expecting it to be. The Raider special ability on the Fore section allows it to take a second primary attack, for 2 energy.

Source: https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/2d/47/2d47a35a-6ec7-4d4b-a262-efacde97dfa3/huge_ship_rules.pdf

It's not clear at all. In the rulebook that came with the raider (not the downloadable 'huge ship rules'), it says on page 5:

"During the combat phase, the Raider may perform up to two attack with its primary weapon and may perform one attack with each of its secondary weapons".

This reads as if it were a property of the ship, the Raider, and not the particular pilot. It's not clear if the pilot ability of spending 2 energy for an attack is for a third attack, or is part of one of these two attacks.

There's an argument to be made about whether the Raider's printed ability is exactly analogous to a pilot ability, or if its a property of the ship. The only point is that the 3 attack interpretation vs 2 attack interpretation is NOT clear without making assumptions.

I'm glad someone asked FFG and we have an official answer! It should really be in the FAQ.

Some things are just badly worded

The rule book I'd actually referring to the pilot ability

It can make up to two attacks. Problem is it doesn't state the second attack require energy

Honestly though

How sick is that?

3 attack with 4 dice and still haven't used secondary.

Your buddy should take a moment and just think about it for a minute