I get you don't like the show, but based on how Peterson and Alex Davy have reacted to questions about the Ghost in the past, I don't see how you get that it was "forced" on them. Alex in particular seems to be a big fan of the show.

And every actor saying a bad film is great says hi.

It's called promotion they could very well see it the same as me but they wont say that on camera as it's bad PR, they have to push the product to make higher ups happy.

You think every GW rep pushing age of sigmar on people actually thinks it's a good game? they just have to put aside their morals if they want to keep their jobs.

There is some very odd reasoning here. Because Alex Davy has said he likes the show, he actually hates it?

Do you have any better evidence than this?

Given I didn't make a positive claim I don't need any.

I'm going to sidestep the epistemic gibberish in there and simply point out that "Disney [are] pushing product and ffg can't say no or they lose the license" clearly needs something to back it up. It's not even a negative claim, regardless of whatever silly ideas about those you may have. So the question remains: how do you know this? Or even: how do you infer it?

I just said even if he didn't like the show he wouldn't say that in an interview.

This is another epistemic trick. Once evidence contrary to a claim is given, it is dismissed as evidence and even taken as evidence for the counterclaim. I've debated biblical 'literalists' who denied that there were no transitional forms between two fossils. When presented with exactly such a transition, they'd claim victory, because now there were not two but three fossils without transitions!

Look, if you think that Davy actually hates the Rebels ships and is being forced, against his will, to produce game material like the Ghost expansion, the onus is on you to back that up. Simply rejecting the clear indication that he does, in fact, like them, just won't do. As it stands, you're just trying to save a claim for which you have presented zero evidence.

I totally understand what you are trying to say, but there really is no reason for me to actually believe any of it. This makes your example regarding even more poignant, because there you suddenly are able to give some evidence: "when it was safe he apologised for lying to people."

Anyone who isn't excited for docking in X-Wing should be punched. Rebels, regardless of wether you like it or not, brings us some mechanicaly highly interesting stuff.

The Gonzanti is an instant buy for me, as is the Ghost, because the both look amazingly fun to play.

I get you don't like the show, but based on how Peterson and Alex Davy have reacted to questions about the Ghost in the past, I don't see how you get that it was "forced" on them. Alex in particular seems to be a big fan of the show.

And every actor saying a bad film is great says hi.

It's called promotion they could very well see it the same as me but they wont say that on camera as it's bad PR, they have to push the product to make higher ups happy.

You think every GW rep pushing age of sigmar on people actually thinks it's a good game? they just have to put aside their morals if they want to keep their jobs.

There is some very odd reasoning here. Because Alex Davy has said he likes the show, he actually hates it?

Do you have any better evidence than this?

Given I didn't make a positive claim I don't need any.

I'm going to sidestep the epistemic gibberish in there and simply point out that "Disney [are] pushing product and ffg can't say no or they lose the license" clearly needs something to back it up. It's not even a negative claim, regardless of whatever silly ideas about those you may have. So the question remains: how do you know this? Or even: how do you infer it?

I just said even if he didn't like the show he wouldn't say that in an interview.

This is another epistemic trick. Once evidence contrary to a claim is given, it is dismissed as evidence and even taken as evidence for the counterclaim. I've debated biblical 'literalists' who denied that there were no transitional forms between two fossils. When presented with exactly such a transition, they'd claim victory, because now there were not two but three fossils without transitions!

Look, if you think that Davy actually hates the Rebels ships and is being forced, against his will, to produce game material like the Ghost expansion, the onus is on you to back that up. Simply rejecting the clear indication that he does, in fact, like them, just won't do. As it stands, you're just trying to save a claim for which you have presented zero evidence.

I totally understand what you are trying to say, but there really is no reason for me to actually believe any of it. This makes your example regarding even more poignant, because there you suddenly are able to give some evidence: "when it was safe he apologised for lying to people."

Unless this was just for the benefit of others. In which case: carry on.

I love the Rebels show, so I have the Ghost on Pre-order already regardless of how it plays. From the pic I seen it has a card for every crew member so that is real cool. I can't wait to play it!

I'm just not feeling it with the Ghost at the moment. It may just be because I haven't seen Rebels, but it's my least anticipated X-Wing ship ever.

Yeah this next wave stinks of Disney pushing product and ffg can't say no or they lose the license.

We'll have to suffer through it every few years to keep this game going.

But at least we get dengar

If this had been LFL, this would've been Wave 7, not 8. And I just cannot understand anyone seeing Alex's obvious enthusiasm for "marketing talk".

As for the topic, it is far, far, far too early to make any claims on the Wave 8 meta. There is just too many cards coming that we don't know what they do to make any claims on viability.

1st up, season 1 spoiler!!

I'm just not feeling it with the Ghost at the moment. It may just be because I haven't seen Rebels, but it's my least anticipated X-Wing ship ever.

Yeah this next wave stinks of Disney pushing product and ffg can't say no or they lose the license.

We'll have to suffer through it every few years to keep this game going.

But at least we get dengar

If this had been LFL, this would've been Wave 7, not 8. And I just cannot understand anyone seeing Alex's obvious enthusiasm for "marketing talk".

As for the topic, it is far, far, far too early to make any claims on the Wave 8 meta. There is just too many cards coming that we don't know what they do to make any claims on viability.

^ this!!

Were getting a new turret and more (unique even!) crew cards than we know what to do with. Its not like the wave seven meta saw a ton of k's on the top of the list heap

Oh noes, the big bad evil disneys.

Personally, I'm looking forward more to the Ghost than Towelhead "have another turret" Dengar.

I like the Ghost visually (fugly chin notwithstanding), but it feels like it'll be kind of boring to play. It's going to take almost all the damage sent its way, it can't do anything with EPTs, etc.

On the other hand, the JumpMasterNuhvok is a ship that's deliberately low-costed by making the ATK3 turret into a title, and it has THE perfect upgrade slots to be a munitions beast with a backup turret (kind of like the Outrider is a great cannon platform with a backup turret but unfortunately people actually use the title).

Oh noes, the big bad evil disneys.

Personally, I'm looking forward more to the Ghost than Towelhead "have another turret" Dengar.

Oh noes, the big bad evil disneys.

Personally, I'm looking forward more to the Ghost than Towelhead "have another turret" Dengar.

Sorry to go off-topic, but is Dengar really presented as such a great pilot in the EU? The game puts him in the same league as Vader, Soontir Fel and Han, and above Luke and Corran Horn... I've read very few EU books, so I might have missed something here. Is there enough justification for PS 9 Dengar?

Put simply, yes. At an earlier time in their lives, he was a big rival to Han. There is a big swoop bike race between them in which Dengar probably should have won, but Han cheats, causing Dengar to crash.

He may be a mediocre bounty hunter, but he's an incredible pilot.

Oh noes, the big bad evil disneys.

Personally, I'm looking forward more to the Ghost than Towelhead "have another turret" Dengar.

Sorry to go off-topic, but is Dengar really presented as such a great pilot in the EU? The game puts him in the same league as Vader, Soontir Fel and Han, and above Luke and Corran Horn... I've read very few EU books, so I might have missed something here. Is there enough justification for PS 9 Dengar?

Put simply, yes. At an earlier time in their lives, he was a big rival to Han. There is a big swoop bike race between them in which Dengar probably should have won, but Han cheats, causing Dengar to crash.

He may be a mediocre bounty hunter, but he's an incredible pilot.

Whereas Boba Fett is just mediocre at everything. *shots fired*

I like the Ghost visually (fugly chin notwithstanding), but it feels like it'll be kind of boring to play. It's going to take almost all the damage sent its way, it can't do anything with EPTs, etc.

On the other hand, the JumpMasterNuhvok is a ship that's deliberately low-costed by making the ATK3 turret into a title, and it has THE perfect upgrade slots to be a munitions beast with a backup turret (kind of like the Outrider is a great cannon platform with a backup turret but unfortunately people actually use the title).

Once again, you are making a lot of assumptions. There are six unique crew in the pack, which looks to be the Ghost's main upgrade. I'm sure there will be at least one to deal with the damage issues it will face.