Give that most of the Sentient species in the Star Wars galaxy are non-Aquatic pretty much every MC80, with the possible exception of those attached to the Mon Calamari defense fleet would need to be drained unless they plan to force the non-Aquatic crewmembers to wear scuba suits while on duty.

And the problem with that would be?

If anything, I think this would really go hand in hand with the "designed for the Mon Cal physiology" bit, as it's easy to imagine that the Mon Cal eye is designed for excellent vision both in and out of water, and it's possible that the screens, whether 2D or low-level holo, might be designed for use underwater, and account for the refractive properties of the drink, and while the Mon Cal eye can easily adjust for this (similar to how a human eye can adjust for varying light levels), perhaps the eyes of the more landlubber species find that these displays, designed for underwater viewing, look rather warped/distorted/hazy/etc. In the newer, drier bridge.

I always thought the MC80 needing a Mon Cal bridge crew for full efficiency was contrary to the Alliance's ideal that all sentient species are equal.

Well, to be fair, the ships were originally made BY Mon Cals FOR Mon Cals...it only stands to reason that they'd make them to suit.

And at the time of the Rebellion, these were all retrofits, and I think that on an issue that minor (since there were plenty of Mon Cal rebel volunteers to crew these ships) the Rebellion prioritized maximum combat efficiency (and time and credits saved) over an expression of their ideology. As a rebel naval tactician, are you *really* prepared to jeopardize the tide of entire battles, and many beings' lives, over making sure that ship controls didn't especially favor one species?

The more I think about this the more I think it would be fun to have an all aquatic party based out of a flooded MC80.

You'd have that one guy wanting to play as a Seeker/Pathfinder who'd insist on having an animal companion, and then making it either a goldfish or a sea monster.

You'd have that one guy wanting to play as a Seeker/Pathfinder who'd insist on having an animal companion, and then making it either a goldfish or a sea monster.

If that sea monster is the Lochness monster then I'd say go for it!!

Are there stats for new beasties in the book? Someone mentioned Space Slugs somewhere...

Are there stats for new beasties in the book? Someone mentioned Space Slugs somewhere...

A few. Not all of them have pictures anywhere (and we get mynocks again), but yes.

Such as...

Mon Cala eel, keelkana, houjix (a creature found on the dejarik board), a tayan falcon (a Kinyen bird), exogorth (space worm), miim (Sullustan thing), knytix (mantis-dog), blood eagle (giant Thyferran predator), choku, mamien (a pair of Yavin 4 creatures), four Chandrilan creatures (cairnmog, fecklen, blackback, ghorla), tauntaun and wampa.

You had me at space slug!

Just don't think too hard about the Force rating you'd need for a Silhouette 5 animal companion...

I absolutely love the book, well done to the writers, it's really top rate stuff. I think my favourite base is defiant. It would have been neat if we could have had a stage breakdown for each of the bases (probably wouldnt work for polis massa), but that's just a want, not an issue I had with it. I quite enjoyed the new races, I think their rules serve to enforce their fluff and provide interesting choices, and that's always welcome. Great book, very worth the money, thanks again to the creators!

Just out of curiosity sake do MC30Cs carry fighters in FFG? I know they didn't in Empire at War but no rebel capital ships were shown carrying fighters in the game because capital ships deploying fighters was an Imperial only ability outside a few neutral or special circumstance ships.

I've always thought of the MC30C as an ancestor of the ShaShore class frigates from Legacy based on the little data we have about MC30C before Strongholds came out so now I'm curious if both designs carried fighters or just the ShaShores.

Just out of curiosity sake do MC30Cs carry fighters in FFG? I know they didn't in Empire at War but no rebel capital ships were shown carrying fighters in the game because capital ships deploying fighters was an Imperial only ability outside a few neutral or special circumstance ships.

I've always thought of the MC30C as an ancestor of the ShaShore class frigates from Legacy based on the little data we have about MC30C before Strongholds came out so now I'm curious if both designs carried fighters or just the ShaShores.

No, it doesn't, but the MC40a does. The cluster bombs on the MC30c would make a complement of fighters difficult, after all.

Thanks

In Star Wars most Cruiser class vessels carry fighters and given the rebel strategy relying so heavily on fighters I would have been shocked if the 40A didn't though there have been rebel designer Cruiser classes that did not have fighter so it isn't unheard of. Still I'm pretty sure I remember the 40A launching fighters in TIE Fighter.

Frigates are much more iffy though it seems like it is mostly highly specialized Frigate classes that don't with only a handful of line Frigate classes being fighterless.

Rebels shows A-wings external mounted to CR-90 vessels. I'm sure Mon Cal ships can do the same.

It honestly isn't a big deal for me or my group. It makes our homemade WEG D6, custom D6, and Saga statblocks for it wrong but that is no big deal and I'm sure that the weapons array is different then what what we came up with anyways.

I'm not allowed to buy any books until after Christmas

Any new heavy weapons? Like the fixed emplacement type stuff they had at Hoth?

I'm not allowed to buy any books until after Christmas

That sounds like wife-speak for "wait until after Christmas to see what else you still need to buy".

I'm pretty sure there are no emplacements, unless I overlooked them in the base chapter. There are no stats in the player options chapter, at least.

3.) Flooded Spaces: There are some sources that claim many Mon Calamari ships were filled with water to cater to the Mon Calamari. Obviously, in ROTJ the bridge we see with Ackbar doesn't appear to be underwater, so I think this idea has been scrapped for the most part. But consider that filling a ship with water for an aquatic species could have several shipbuilding advantages. You could induce a current in passageways, allowing crew to swim from one end of the ship to another VERY rapidly. You could build the interior of your ship in three dimensions, which COULD explain the strange armature command chair that Ackbar uses in ROTJ on the bridge, because it allows him to move through three dimensions of space to monitor specific crew stations. This would also allow for some very compact, efficient interior workspaces, potentially. It could also assist with damage control. Water does not compress like air does, this could potentially lend a LOT of hull integrity to a ship. There's also the possibility of cryoban grenade-like technology that could freeze water in a space upon a hullbreach, sealing it very quickly. Again, this is a largely cast aside and forgotten element of lore (I'm not sure what source it came from, but it was something obscure that was a low grade of canon).

My head is now swimming with visions of how awesome an adventure location a wrecked, flooded Mon Cal ship would be. An ocean drifting in space...

I'm not allowed to buy any books until after Christmas

That sounds like wife-speak for "wait until after Christmas to see what else you still need to buy".

My wife just told me to go ahead and order it as my birthday gift. Woo-hoo!

Could someone please post me the Stats for the Verpine and Polis Massasans - so long till it will arrive in germany.

Anyone know of any deckplans for Mon Calamari ships?

In this period each Mon Cal ship was different even compared others in the same class so a deckplan would only help if you are using the exact ship the deckplan was made for.