Thanks for killing the fun guys.

My pleasure. And now for my next trick, I will EAT a kitten on live television!

I can best that ...

I will incinerate a mint-condition, still-in-the-bag, promotional Boba Fett figure, followed by complete sets of FFG's EoE, F&D, AoR and WEGs D6 SWRPG

*off camera: What about Star Wars D20?*

Me: Security? Remove that person from the audience please

I like the info on F&D only because of knowing the films and a little from waaaaay back playing d6.. It certainly helped me when coming up with my F&D Cerean,

but canon? I'M SO CONFUSED... thank The Force for the internet!

Okay, serious question time - does anyone know if the old NPR radio plays survived the Canon Junking? They were always "actual and real canon unless overridden by the movie", much like the novelizations. I wonder if they are still considered such or are they on the "Sucks to be you" pile?

Okay, serious question time - does anyone know if the old NPR radio plays survived the Canon Junking? They were always "actual and real canon unless overridden by the movie", much like the novelizations. I wonder if they are still considered such or are they on the "Sucks to be you" pile?

Dunno, and pass me the Ranch for my basket of deep fried kittens.....

I treat this canon like a timeline change just like the two latest Star Trek movies.

In the Star Wars universe something happened shortly after Return of the Jedi. In the extended universe of the novels the Rebel fleet went to deal with a crisis on the planet Bakura (read the novel Truce at Bakura). In the new canon nothing happened at Bakura so the Rebels and the Empire had a showdown at the planet Jakku instead.

So we have two divergent timelines, one which is the new canon and the other one which is Legends. Which one is "real" while the other one is the hazy visions of Force-Sensitives dabbling with the Foresee power is up to you.

Not that Bakura and Jakku have to exclude one another. Bakura only involved a token force in the few days after Endor, while Jakku was a massive engagement just over a year past Endor.

As much as I *really* hate to say it...especially before even actually seeing TFA, I've gotta say that early indications say that, to me, while I think the movie will be visually brilliant, and have better acting/dialogue than we're used to, I think that story-wise, trading the old EU timeline for this one will largely be a wash in terms of overall interesting and plausible threats. Instead of invaders from beyond the known galaxy, cloned emperors, and warlords of the week, it seems like they're going instead with, 'when in doubt, a new sith lord pops up. fighting ensues". That's not to say it's going to be a bad movie...just that, from what I can tell, they've decided to break very little new ground in terms of story.

At this point, I'd prefer the campy, often ridiculous villainy of the Legends timeline over what seems to be a setting where we can pretty much repeat the same story and change the timeline by altering the names filling the various positions.

I'm trying to keep an open mind though, and really, truly hope that I'm blown away in late December.

The Wookiee says, quote: "Loyalty officers appear in Star Wars canon, starting with 2015's Aftermath."

Loyalty officers are special ISB agents, embedded in regular troops to root out dissent, just like Red Army political commissars. They might have existed in some apocryphal WEG splat, but now they're canon.

So WEG invented them but now because they're canon that magically makes them a good thing now?

If we're talking "for our own use", then I suppose you're free to do whatever you want with EU stuff. Use, ignore, adapt any of it. Chalk them up to historical mistakes, if you want. Five thousand years from now, there's a good chance that real world historians will have all the evidence they need to proclaim that Abraham Lincoln was the President of the USA that fought vampires while he was in the office around the same time that England fended off a zombie invasion thanks to Elizabeth, Jane and Kitty Bennet...

If we're talking "for our own use", then I suppose you're free to do whatever you want with EU stuff. Use, ignore, adapt any of it. Chalk them up to historical mistakes, if you want. Five thousand years from now, there's a good chance that real world historians will have all the evidence they need to proclaim that Abraham Lincoln was the President of the USA that fought vampires while he was in the office around the same time that England fended off a zombie invasion thanks to Elizabeth, Jane and Kitty Bennet...

That's one of the great tragedies of Palpatine's rule, the loss of so many primary sources for historical research and continuity of facts. Jedi holocrons in particular, being interactive AIs with the knowledge and personalities of persons of historical significance are amazing resource that have been lost. In real life (from an USA perspective) it would be like losing access to complete interactive digital personalities/knowledge of the Founding Fathers.

On the upside - from a game perspective it really does give a license to tell stories however a group wants. Anything could be propaganda, lies, or misinformation. In a FaD game Mon Mothma could know all along that there were other isolated groups of force sensitives out there rebuilding the Jedi traditions, but protected them by maintaining a cell network and prevented one Inquisitor security breach from leading to all their deaths. Luke just becomes the one who became famous and drew most of the attention of the Empire his way, letting others survive and possibly thrive.

If you choose, you wouldn't be alone in rejecting the entire Disney counter-continuity.

I prefer to go that way:

Legend is not canon. But it may be used as inspiration for canon. It clearly already has, with the Interdictor from Rebels.

Things like the Imperial Knights, the Dark Saber, etc.. Can all exist.eventually in the new canon.

I prefer to go that way:

Legend is not canon. But it may be used as inspiration for canon. It clearly already has, with the Interdictor from Rebels.

Things like the Imperial Knights, the Dark Saber, etc.. Can all exist.eventually in the new canon.

That is pretty much what J.J. said in one of his interviews. The Legends will inspire the new canon. ANd that is what I am hoping for.

BUT NOT YOU YOU STOOPID YUUZHAN VONG! Get offa my space!