Stay on Target while stressed

By stabbald, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Okay so this came up in a game recently and I tried to search for the answer but didn't come up with anything solid.

Keyan Farlander has Stay on Target and starts the turn stressed having used it last turn and not gotten a shot off to clear it. He then picks a green 2 forward which he uses to turn into a 2 bank using Stay on Target which is now red... What happens now?

I suspect the answer is that the opponent gets to pick any non-red maneuver for the B-Wing to go on instead as stress isn't cleared until the check stress step which is after movement, but does switching to a 2 bank in this case count as "revealing a red maneuver".

May sound strange but I couldn't find a clear definition of "revealing" a maneuver when you change it after you've revealed your dial.

Based on other similar cases ruled in the FAQ, I'd say stay on tyargets rotating to a new maneuver conts as revealing it. So it would be a bad idea to do it while stressed as it would result in your opponet picking a new maneuver for you.

Look in the FAQ for Tetran Cowall f.ex.

On the other hand, the FAQ allso has this to say about Stay on target:

"Even if the chosen maneuver is changed by an ability such as Navigator, the maneuver that the ship executes is always a red maneuver"

So I guess the "hand over the dial"-thingy is not an "ability", or it would be imposible to chose a non red maneuver as you are required to do.

Based on other similar cases ruled in the FAQ, I'd say stay on tyargets rotating to a new maneuver conts as revealing it. So it would be a bad idea to do it while stressed as it would result in your opponet picking a new maneuver for you.

Look in the FAQ for Tetran Cowall f.ex.

I was trying to find language like this but could not find it. I searched on counts and rotating but it didn't pop out at me. Not saying your wrong, just trying to find out where the FAQ talks like this.

If my opponent chose to use Stay on Target while stressed I would probably stop him before he went on. But if he was quick on the draw I would tell him since you cannot execute a red maneuver while stressed, and Stay on Target happens after revealing that you would have to execute the maneuver your revealed. But if there is a precedent for a change in dial counting and he was quick on the draw, then there is a case for having to hand over your dial.

I don't believe that you would be allowed to choose an illegal maneuver with Stay On Target.

RRG Page 18:

"A stressed ship cannot execute red maneuvers or perform actions. If a stressed ship reveals a red maneuver, the opposing player chooses any non-red maneuver on that ship’s dial for that ship to execute."

Having your opponent set your dial when you reveal a red move when stressed is the only real recourse as it would be unfair to let the player who made the mistake of setting an illegal move benefit from knowing where other ships had moved. A maneuver becoming red because of an optional ability that is invoked when the dial is revealed doesn't require the same remedy. It can just be disallowed. No replacement maneuver needs to be chosen.


I don't believe that you would be allowed to choose an illegal maneuver with Stay On Target.

RRG Page 18:

"A stressed ship cannot execute red maneuvers or perform actions. If a stressed ship reveals a red maneuver, the opposing player chooses any non-red maneuver on that ship’s dial for that ship to execute."

Having your opponent set your dial when you reveal a red move when stressed is the only real recourse as it would be unfair to let the player who made the mistake of setting an illegal move benefit from knowing where other ships had moved. A maneuver becoming red because of an optional ability that is invoked when the dial is revealed doesn't require the same remedy. It can just be disallowed. No replacement maneuver needs to be chosen.

I agree with this, I'd just have the opponent keep their original move as it seems the fairest thing to do (and in fact this is what we did in game). I was mostly just curious as to how it worked as I couldn't find a definite answer.

I think treating Stay on Target as though it had been errata'd to say it can't be used while stressed is probably the best plan for now, but this might be worth a trip to the Rules Question form, if only so we know they know about this gap.

I like keeping the original move in this scenario

This one's fairly simple when you break it down. Normally the revealed maneuver would become whatever Stay on Target would change it to, but always a red. And as WWHSD has stated, you can't do a red when you're stressed. Stay on Target makes it a red maneuver, so you can't use Stay on Target when you're stressed.