Amazed to see an 8 a-wing squadron win worlds. Love to see some meta-countering happen, and show off the strength of squadrons in the process.

List was:

CR90 W/ Garm
AFMKII-B
AFMKII-B

8x A-Wings.

No upgrades that I could see.

So what will the new name be for this? The A-Hole list? Because you feel like an a#$hole when you lose to it, since so many assumed squadrons were shite?

Never mind. :-)

What do you mean? A-wings didn't win Worlds...

They pretty much did. . .

I said it on the twitch feed and I will say it here. We just saw the same skills winning worlds that have won xwing the last few years. Read the meta, get ahead of it, play to win from round zero and just be **** good.

Congrats Jonathan.

edit - I was LasombraUK on the twitch for anyone who was there. Great community spirit on there too, enjoyed it. Thanks all.

Could be called 'the A team'

A great list, and very well flown from what I managed to watch.

Have y'all seen the Little Caesars commercial where he claims that they're "getting off the grid!" and then claims they're "getting back on the grid!" At the end?

I'm pretty sure you can replace grid with squadrons and that's what's going to happen with the meta now.

I said it on the twitch feed and I will say it here. We just saw the same skills winning worlds that have won xwing the last few years. Read the meta, get ahead of it, play to win from round zero and just be **** good.

Congrats Jonathan.

edit - I was LasombraUK on the twitch for anyone who was there. Great community spirit on there too, enjoyed it. Thanks all.

Saw his round five game 274 to 11. Tabled the VSD and a glad. Was very impressed with the list.

Did anyone know what he faced in round 1 to 3?

Also was funny folks where calling for him to take adv gun and said sensor sweep wtf.

Saw his round five game 274 to 11. Tabled the VSD and a glad. Was very impressed with the list.

Did anyone know what he faced in round 1 to 3?

Also was funny folks where calling for him to take adv gun and said sensor sweep wtf.

Intel Sweep made life easier.

The issue with the GenCon Special is that it is a ruthless list that needs to ignore objectives and get the kill in by turn 3 or sooner.

Are they saving the streams for later viewing? I'd love to watch what happened when I have the chance.

So what do you due with this list at 400 points? Add boosted comms? X17? Max out a wings to 110? And toss in yaravis?

It's effectively just a rehash of 10 RhymerBall beats All-Ship beats Some Squadron beats 10 RhymerBall.

Just with A-wings instead of Rhymerball. :-)

Are they saving the streams for later viewing? I'd love to watch what happened when I have the chance.

They said they should be available on twitch. I asked about posting on youtube.

At 400 points? I'd think spamming more Squads would be less effective than adding another hull that needs to go to table. 8 A's is a lot already.

Back of the Envelope math says... You could throw in another AFMK-II and go to 10As, calling it a Day, I feel...

+++ World's @400 Rebels (397pts) +++

Assault Frigate Mark IIB (72pts)

Assault Frigate Mark IIB (72pts)

Assault Frigate Mark IIB (72pts)

CR90 Corvette A (82pts) [•Admiral Ackbar (38pts)]

+ Squadrons (99pts) +

A-Wing Squadron (11pts)

A-Wing Squadron (11pts)

A-Wing Squadron (11pts)

A-Wing Squadron (11pts)

A-Wing Squadron (11pts)

A-Wing Squadron (11pts)

A-Wing Squadron (11pts)

A-Wing Squadron (11pts)

A-Wing Squadron (11pts)

Aha, so my QuickMath was right... If you just wanted to add without changing, then yes, another AFMK-II and 2 more A-Wings still fit.

Just because A wings worked good in worlds this time does not mean they will be as great once wave 2 comes out. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying A wings will be bad, but you will have to consider how the new scums and villains will be in comparison to them. And really, any uncontested squadron mass will greatly affect the outcome of a battle.

Just because A wings worked good in worlds this time does not mean they will be as great once wave 2 comes out. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying A wings will be bad, but you will have to consider how the new scums and villains will be in comparison to them. And really, any uncontested squadron mass will greatly affect the outcome of a battle.

The reason why we're rallying about this is the core argument of the GenConSpecial, which is "Squadrons don't matter, you just have to kill the Ships to win." - and this was showing that Squadrons can indeed stop you from doing that.

Aha, so my QuickMath was right... If you just wanted to add without changing, then yes, another AFMK-II and 2 more A-Wings still fit.

Just because A wings worked good in worlds this time does not mean they will be as great once wave 2 comes out. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying A wings will be bad, but you will have to consider how the new scums and villains will be in comparison to them. And really, any uncontested squadron mass will greatly affect the outcome of a battle.

The reason why we're rallying about this is the core argument of the GenConSpecial, which is "Squadrons don't matter, you just have to kill the Ships to win." - and this was showing that Squadrons can indeed stop you from doing that.

Well, the actual argument is true. Squadrons DON'T matter, and you DO have to kill the ships to win.

I'm really pleased that a squadron list won this one, but lets not get carried away. The game before this against another all ship list was VERY close, and all ship lists were at least half of the top 4. And the Imperial player in the final effectively lost in deployment.

To me this suggests excellent balance, and not that squadron heavy is in any way superior. And thats exactly as it should be, leaving room for everyones preferred play style.

In fact....the winning list at Worlds (or a variant of) placed 2nd at gencon, and the winning Gencon list placed 2nd here. Thats pretty **** balanced.

A-Wings are the most efficient squadrons in the game.

They attack ships almost as good as bombers and wreck havoc on fighters and bombers with counter 2 and 4 hull. AND they are speed 5.

For 11 points thats a bargain.