The state of the game post-Worlds

By Biophysical, in X-Wing

Are people still wedded to PTL for some indiscernible reason?

Look, forgeT the interceptor. The star viper isn't it; play empire if you want that.

Xizor and Guri are far more like Bwings if Bwings could actually take a hit, got rid of all their reds, added sloops, got free engines & could then take thrusters

They're a lot more blunt than soontir, which lets them survive **** like green dice and stress a lot better. They are NOT dedicated arc dodgers. They CAN arcdodge (Not to the extent of the most maneuverable small ships obv), but they don't need to. Hell, they can even barrel right into self blocks and not give a ****, provided their ability and/or system slot triggers.

An abilitied XIzor (which works off friendly ships in range 1, not just Zs) and jammer guri are hilariously difficult to kill in a hairball

in short: Adapt your expectations accordingly or pull out an actual tie interceptor

Edited by ficklegreendice

Given the prevalence of stress control, looking at a ship's greens is important. Though, most are still very, very wedded to the idea that you MUST do a green while stressed. Even though things like Lone Wolf, Wired, FCS, and Bossk exists now.

Lone wolf, predator, crackshot,wired, FCS, jammers, thrusters,guri and Xizor's ability; no reds apart from sloops

Stress is, at most, a very minor issue

I was wondering, is Biggs decent anti-Stressbot tech? Biggs generally doesn't do red maneuvers and doesn't really need his actions that badly. Stick him next to a ship that actually needs not to be stressed and he could be a real help beyond his normal ability to soak up damage.

Edited by WingedSpider

I was wondering, is Biggs decent anti-Stressbot tech? Biggs generally doesn't do red maneuvers and doesn't really need his actions that badly. Stick him next to a ship that actually needs not to be stressed and he could be a real help beyond his normal ability to soak up damage.

Yeah, he really can be. Right now he's really just waiting for the integrated astromech and the 1 point extra hit point that he needs to really be cost effective. Once wave 8 hits, he'll start showing up again.

Unfortunately, Biggs will rise again. And again. and again...

Funny cartoon from Dave the Direman.

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Truth.

concerning generics: exactly. the awing was useful (always was!), the Z95 was useful etc - I'd like to see useful yts, bombers, ewings etc, too. we all have the models, we just need a competative generics-card here and there*.

*and everyone who burns a corran horn card when flying against me with a generic ewing, may reroll all his dice while the card burns. :)

Mind if I sig this?

concerning generics: exactly. the awing was useful (always was!), the Z95 was useful etc - I'd like to see useful yts, bombers, ewings etc, too. we all have the models, we just need a competative generics-card here and there*.

*and everyone who burns a corran horn card when flying against me with a generic ewing, may reroll all his dice while the card burns. :)

Mind if I sig this?

to quote the right hand of our beloved gentle and just leader, long may he reign:

"We'd be Honored if You Could Join Us"

go ahead ;-)

if you use it against me in a tournament, flying 3 generic ewings and a stack of 70+ corran cards burning wildly..

-you really deserve to win! :-)

Edited by WokeUpDead

Was amazed at the amount of dice angst on the twitch stream. Three-time champ definitely shows that luck is not the deciding factor in X-wing.

You're assuming he's not cheating.

I am not making that assumption.

(Nor am I making an accusation.)

Was amazed at the amount of dice angst on the twitch stream. Three-time champ definitely shows that luck is not the deciding factor in X-wing.

You're assuming he's not cheating.

I am not making that assumption.

(Nor am I making an accusation.)

Yes, yes you are. Setting these conspiracy rumors is disrespectfull and you should stop doing that. The thought that FFG is not going to check his dice and other stuff befor letting him on stream or after winning their top tournament is absurd.

Was amazed at the amount of dice angst on the twitch stream. Three-time champ definitely shows that luck is not the deciding factor in X-wing.

You're assuming he's not cheating.

I am not making that assumption.

(Nor am I making an accusation.)

Yes, yes you are. Setting these conspiracy rumors is disrespectfull and you should stop doing that. The thought that FFG is not going to check his dice and other stuff befor letting him on stream or after winning their top tournament is absurd.

he certainsly seems to be a good sportsman, so that "accusation between the lines" is itching, unneccessary and perhaps rude. could also be in jest or sarcastic, smilies would help to transport that (so people don't get mad about it) ;)

that being said, IMO sharing a set of dice from player1 and a set of damage cards from player2 would go a long way to kill of these rumours/accusations/feelings.

not that it should be enforced, but maybe encouraged.

in my 2,5? years of xwing I have seen exactly -1- person cheating, and everybody knew about him before and said "watch this one.." - but the rest (dozens if not more): all good players and most of the time very good sports. we should not "poison" our very casual/fun/positive attitute in the community in general with .. "suggestions" in between lines ;)

Edited by WokeUpDead

Was amazed at the amount of dice angst on the twitch stream. Three-time champ definitely shows that luck is not the deciding factor in X-wing.

You're assuming he's not cheating.

I am not making that assumption.

(Nor am I making an accusation.)

Wow. I really don't understand your post?

You might not intend it that way but it's exactly how it comes across. As an accusation. If your not assuming he isn't cheating then you're expressing doubts over the validity of his results. At least a desire to muddy the water.

I like to believe when someone wins gold at the Olympics, they did so by ability, perseverance and consistency. By being the best. I don't instantly wonder if they are a drug cheat or somehow nobbled their opponents. When evidence to the contrary is presented, that's when I question Al that individuals results.

I do and will continue to presume the 3 time Xwing world champ is not cheating. In the absence of suspicious behaviour or incidents I see no reason to do otherwise. I've watched many of Paul Heavers games online and I've always been more impressed by his builds and flying than I have his dice results. I've never seen anyone involved in or watching his games express doubts so why should I?

I see a three time world champion of evidence that luck isn't the deciding factor in X-Wing. Maybe the angst being referred to is just people that refuse to accept its not luck stopping them from being the best.

A hot roll at a fortuitous time is nothing other than dice being dice. No different to rolling 4 blanks with Soontir the first time someone gets a nice hit on him. Sometimes a person can have hot or cold dice to the point it affects a game. I do accept that but they are outlying cases and usually across a game and certainly across a tournament it evens out.

First of all, accusing a guy who won of cheating without any proof sounds an awful lot like jealousy IMO.

Secondly, it's not that hard to get a dice edge in x-wingo if you're willing to spend some time and money. I wouldn't call it cheating since you wouldn't break any rules.

X wing dice aren't exactly top quality as they have plenty of air bubbles. This means, each individual dice is prone to rolling certain faces more than others.

Normally, with 3-6 dicwe from a pack that are randomly flawed I doubt it's an issue. However, somebody could buy let's say 10 dice packs, roll each dice 1000 times and select a set of 6 dice that are most prone to rolling hits or evades.

Secondly, it's not that hard to get a dice edge in x-wingo if you're willing to spend some time and money. I wouldn't call it cheating since you wouldn't break any rules.

X wing dice aren't exactly top quality as they have plenty of air bubbles. This means, each individual dice is prone to rolling certain faces more than others.

Normally, with 3-6 dicwe from a pack that are randomly flawed I doubt it's an issue. However, somebody could buy let's say 10 dice packs, roll each dice 1000 times and select a set of 6 dice that are most prone to rolling hits or evades.

If someone wants to take the time to spend that much time and money to find the dice that are more likely to roll hits and evades, so be it. I currently have 9 of each dice from buying core sets that I carry with me. I grab five of each out of my travel box and play with those. I just don't understand why people would want to cheat just to say they won. It's not like we are playing for large sums of money like in MtG.

Are people still wedded to PTL for some indiscernible reason?

Look, forgeT the interceptor. The star viper isn't it; play empire if you want that.

Xizor and Guri are far more like Bwings if Bwings could actually take a hit, got rid of all their reds, added sloops, got free engines & could then take thrusters

They're a lot more blunt than soontir, which lets them survive **** like green dice and stress a lot better. They are NOT dedicated arc dodgers. They CAN arcdodge (Not to the extent of the most maneuverable small ships obv), but they don't need to. Hell, they can even barrel right into self blocks and not give a ****, provided their ability and/or system slot triggers.

An abilitied XIzor (which works off friendly ships in range 1, not just Zs) and jammer guri are hilariously difficult to kill in a hairball

in short: Adapt your expectations accordingly or pull out an actual tie interceptor

To be fair you can just not PtL every turn. With angled boost the stress shouldn't be too much of an issue. There is also the advanced sensors PtL combo.

PTL on a starviper is a square peg round hole situation.

PTL on a starviper is a square peg round hole situation.

I would not go that far. It can work, especially with Advanced Sensor. That can actually turn the Viper into a mini-Phantom by Barrel rolling, boosting then executing his green maneuver. Even if there is not many green on the dial, good luck guessing where it will be.

Also, it's not because you have PtL that you need to use it every turn. Plan ahead. Before doing your second action, think about your next turn maneuver. Is a green move next turn a viable choice?