Goodbye Soontir.

By darthkray, in X-Wing

I'm excited to try a K-wing with TLT and tactician. If I'm not mistaken that's two stress and range two from any angle.

You are mistaken. Tactician only works in arc.

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"Good shot Red 2!"

That being said, I played Fel, Jax, and a Shadow Squadron Pilot the other night against twin TLT Y-Wings accompanying Corran. Flown right, Fel and his brethern will eat TLTs alive. Get in close, deny them the shot and then make them eat hot laser breath! TM

"Good shot Red 2!"

That being said, I played Fel, Jax, and a Shadow Squadron Pilot the other night against twin TLT Y-Wings accompanying Corran. Flown right, Fel and his brethern will eat TLTs alive. Get in close, deny them the shot and then make them eat hot laser breath! TM

A decent TLT player will probably start kiting you though. So it can be difficult to time the straight 5/bank 3 + boost to jump into close range. You have to wait until they face a corner or some asteroids an then cut in fast.

Alternatively; drag them trough some asteroids so they have to split up and then engage them at long range.

It was a combination of both. He flew into the asteroid field which meant he had to slow down to manoeuvre through and I could catch him. He then flew himself towards the edge, which again meant he was limited in his movement, and '2' banks or turns were enough to keep close to him and keep him in arc.

I'm excited to try a K-wing with TLT and tactician. If I'm not mistaken that's two stress and range two from any angle.

Not quite. The two stress only happened out of the front arc, but it can still murder interceptors. But i don't think it will be the end of Soontir. He's still very effective. He just takes more careful flying. You can't always sit back with him. You might need to get stuck in with those Y's to live

Edited by Tychotic

Beat a Scum Y-wing 4 TLT list with Soontir, Jax, and a Bounty Hunter just last night. Autothrusters plus range 1 maneuvering works to the advantage of the Interceptors.

IM just going to leave this here. TLT has nothing to do with Soontir not doing well. Well flown Interceptors can massacre Y wings.

Kinetic Operator playing Matt Shadowlord on Vassal

Looks like you can say that Soontir... Fel out of style.

Here we go again. :unsure:

It's the Arc Dodgers Vs Turrets Debate!!!

:P

didn't I already tell everybody to just move along? now go already!

:D

also, 1 less soontir on the tables (as its unplayable now, set in stone) is maybe not the worst thing for the sake of variety on the table.

some people are simply convinced the sky is falling each and every day, and there's no way to even suggest they should reconsider. best to not get into that discussion and simply fly our unplayable soontirs, still ;)

After loosing 4 times in a row with him on my team. It's just frustrating. TLT's everywhere I play.

Try out this build and any TLT player is going to start rage mode.Seriously, Fel, Autothrusters and System Jammer are best counters for TLT. Commander Alozen (25)Elusiveness (2)Proton Rockets (3)Sensor Jammer (0)Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)TIE/x1 (0)Soontir Fel (27)Push the Limit (3)Autothrusters (2)Stealth Device (3)Royal Guard TIE (0)Darth Vader (29)Deadeye (1)Cluster Missiles (4)Sensor Jammer (0)TIE/x1 (0)Total: 100View in Yet Another Squad Builder

But then you end up with just another two attack ship

Looks like you can say that Soontir... Fel out of style.

Oldest child would say: Now he's Soontir Fail.

That said, not necessarily agreeing with OP.

Soontir Fel is well placed to deal with tlt lists. Much better than most. I don't understand what you're on about. Fly him with doomshuttle and sensorjammer phantom to really destroy tlts, if you need the extra list imbalance.

TLT Ys throw three red dice, and if Soontir isn't in a position to get three almost guaranteed evades (token/autothrusters/etc) then I suggest that maybe your flying is at fault. He really shouldn't be succumbing to TLTs, especially not with the Interceptor's unmatched capacity for zooming into range 1 of the enemy.

I beat TLT plenty of times using Soontir. Vader always has a problem against TLT.

I still think Soontir fits in. He's honestly been the most successful imperial ship I've played vs TLT spam. Albeit, my support ships HAVE to knock # of TLT ships to 2 for Soontir to have a chance. He won't survive getting shot by 3+. Or even another ship + 2 TLT.

Soontir eats agility 1 ships with turrets for breakfast when properly loaded. If the Palpmobile is with him.... Forgetaboutit

The key to Soontir is to always place yourself in the most advantageous position. Sometimes that means you will not be shooting at anything on some rounds. Pull ships out of position, get the range and the angle you want, and blast away!

So I played a bunch of games lastnight with poe (vi, at,r2) and hes also a threat to fel. Played Poe, k with tlt tac, and stresshog vs palp mobile list and if you fly it right its close game. You have to kill poe first though because if it comes down to po vs fell, r2 wins the day.

Ill be toying around with this list latter in the week vs aces some more,

Maranda

tlt

tac

poe

vi

at

r5p9 (the other regin r5 unit)

gold

tlt

btla

r3a2

I hope the change from r2 to r5 doesn't cost me here, this list is more difficult to fly I think but having 2 ships regening shields is nice vs the ace list.

I like R5P9 on poe, makes him less predictable than with R2D2

I'm excited to try a K-wing with TLT and tactician. If I'm not mistaken that's two stress and range two from any angle.

Nope, Arc-only.

But still, tough call.

The only thing really broken would be imperial ships with twin laser turrets and the ruthlesness ept. It's a good thing there are no imperial ships with secondary turrets yet.

I like R5P9 on poe, makes him less predictable than with R2D2

Mostly because it's a droid that the pilot was tweaked for.

you don't see any other pilots that keep their focus every time...

The only thing really broken would be imperial ships with twin laser turrets and the ruthlesness ept. It's a good thing there are no imperial ships with secondary turrets yet.

Add Kallus and the Emperor into the mix and you start to see the reason why.

I like R5P9 on poe, makes him less predictable than with R2D2

Mostly because it's a droid that the pilot was tweaked for.

you don't see any other pilots that keep their focus every time...

The problem is that stress controll is growing more popular, against that R2 definitly has an edge.

I like R5P9 on poe, makes him less predictable than with R2D2

Mostly because it's a droid that the pilot was tweaked for.

you don't see any other pilots that keep their focus every time...

The problem is that stress controll is growing more popular, against that R2 definitly has an edge.

Stress control grows more popular because people are SICK of highskill boosters.

And I'm with them on that. What's use the game of predicting arcs and movements when some ships fly with cards already played?