Epic Questions

By Blail Blerg, in X-Wing Rules Questions

My last post was completely not answered at all in satisfactory ways so I'm going to have to post this again.

My raider is attacking something with its primary (on the fore) and with a hardpoint on the fore. I have Darth Vader in the aft. Does "you" count as the whole ship? So can I use Vader crew on the attacks from the front? Also do I pick which hull to deal 2vader damage to? Or is only the one that he's equipped to? Can I split it and deal 1 damage to each side?

After a side is crippled, do the face up damage cards still apply?

This mainly is about the one fore damage card that says: "You must spend 1 energy to take any action." Does that only count actions in the front?? Since if "you" is the whole ship like in the Vader example, it should be thus both sides.

I guess "you" should be both sides, since if you attack with the primary weapon, the fore card has the ability that says "YOU may spend 1 energy to attack again." But all of your energy is placed on the aft side of the ship.

Do you have to measure TL from the side it originated from? Say, TLing from the aft as an action. Do I measure from the front of the raider?

When both sides are crippled the ship is destroyed right?

I don't know about anyone else but it is hard to read anything after the fist sentence of the post.

It'd be easy to answer if you didn't make the text nearly the same colour as the page. You can't read it unless you highlight it.

It'd be easy to answer if you didn't make the text nearly the same colour as the page. You can't read it unless you highlight it.

Depends entierly on what theme you are running. It reads just fine for me (i'm on the old theme where everything is a nice shade of greay so my eyes don't burn up from all the brigth white light).

1. Yes, "you" refers to the whole ship, including both sections. Under "Huge Ship Sections," page 1: "Huge ships count as a single ship consisting of two bases, one ship token, and one or two Ship cards." Vader can trigger off of attacks originating from either section.

2. Your opponent gets to choose where Vader's damage is applied. Under "Damage," page 3: "If a huge ship suffers damage from a source that does not explicitly affect a single section, the opposing player chooses which section suffers the damage. Crippled sections cannot be chosen." The damage is applied together to one section, not that your opponent is likely to want to split it up anyway.

3. The rules don't tell you to discard your damage cards until the entire ship is destroyed, so faceup damage cards on a crippled section should still apply. And yes, that particular damage card adds an energy cost to actions from either section.

4. Acquiring target locks works the same for huge ships as it does for small or large - you measure closest to closest. Under "Measuring Range from Huge Ships During Actions," page 2: "When a player performs an action or uses a card from a specific section, he measures range from the closest point of the huge ship to the affected ship(s)." So yes, if you take a target lock action with your aft section, you can measure from the fore or aft section for potential targets. In addition, the blue target lock token is assigned to the ship as a whole, and can be spent during attacks from either section.

5. Yes, if both sections are crippled, the ship is destroyed and removed from play.

Edited by Pandademic

My last post was completely not answered at all in satisfactory ways so I'm going to have to post this again.

My raider is attacking something with its primary (on the fore) and with a hardpoint on the fore. I have Darth Vader in the aft. Does "you" count as the whole ship? So can I use Vader crew on the attacks from the front? Also do I pick which hull to deal 2vader damage to? Or is only the one that he's equipped to? Can I split it and deal 1 damage to each side?

After a side is crippled, do the face up damage cards still apply?

This mainly is about the one fore damage card that says: "You must spend 1 energy to take any action." Does that only count actions in the front?? Since if "you" is the whole ship like in the Vader example, it should be thus both sides.

I guess "you" should be both sides, since if you attack with the primary weapon, the fore card has the ability that says "YOU may spend 1 energy to attack again." But all of your energy is placed on the aft side of the ship.

Do you have to measure TL from the side it originated from? Say, TLing from the aft as an action. Do I measure from the front of the raider?

When both sides are crippled the ship is destroyed right?

Sorry. For reading. ><

And in case anyone else wants to chip in.

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Thanks Pandademic. I pretty much agree with you.

Interesting that Vader can be used to crit the other section... hmm. Anyone want to confirm that?

I read "you" as both sections too. The FAQ for R2D2crew says for a Huge ship with two section, "you" have to have no shields on both sections. And R2D2 uses the same "you" wording: "If you have no shields... etc etc."

I agree with that particular damage card making both sections require an energy to take an action.

Will need to ask for a confirm about what happens when a section is crippled if its damage cards do anything... if its dealt the remainder of its cards, etcetc. I heard something about this.

From the Huge Ship rules:

If a huge ship suffers damage from a source that does not explicitly affect a single section, the opposing player chooses which section suffers the damage. Crippled sections cannot be chosen.

Vader doesn't specify a section for his own damage, so the opponent chooses where the damage goes.

Crippled Sections for Ships with Multiple Ship Cards

When the number of Damage cards dealt to a section equals or exceeds its hull value, that section is crippled. The crippled section’s Ship card is then flipped to the crippled side.
A Ship card’s crippled side has fewer Upgrade icons than its normal side. When a Ship card’s crippled side is revealed, the controlling player must choose and discard any Upgrade cards in excess of the upgrade icons depicted on that side. Similarly, he must discard any energy tokens in excess of the energy limit on that side. Titles and modifications are not discarded.
Crippled sections cannot be the target of an attack and cannot suffer damage.
If both sections of a huge ship with multiple Ship cards are crippled, that ship is destroyed. Immediately remove the destroyed ship from the play area, discard all of its Damage cards to faceup discard piles next to the Damage decks, and return all of its tokens to their respective supplies.

There's nothing in there that changes the status of the damage cards, so they would remain in effect on a crippled section.

Edited by Parravon

hmm. i did see that.

just wondering if i missed anything. k.

oh can vader deal damage to his own ship off of two different hull zones? suffer 1 damage on each side to satisfy the 2 damage cost?

Because the source of his damage doesn't actually stipulate the section, the opponent gets to choose, but I would assume it has to be on one section only. Although there's nothing to say it can't be split. It all depends on how evil your opponent is.

NM

Edited by Plainsman