Daredevil + rock +PTL

By Rakaydos, in X-Wing Rules Questions

If Psycho Tycho Daredevil's into a rock, he loses his perform action step, but he has just performed a Action. Can he still use PTL off that action to boost off the asteroid, or has losing the perform action step ended the action chain?

Edited by Rakaydos

Running into the obstruction stopped actions from being performed, same as if you had bumped a ship.

Beeing on an asteroid doesn't prevent you from doing actions. As noted, it only instruct you to skip your "perform action"-step. So to answer the OPs question, Tycho could trigger PTL of the daredevil action (where the stress would have stopped most other pilots) and possibly boost of the rock.

Edited by Smuggler

Beeing on an asteroid doesn't prevent you from doing actions. As noted, it only instruct you to skip your "perform action"-step. So to answer the OPs question, Tycho could trigger PTL of the daredevil action (where the stress would have stopped most other pilots) and possibly boost of the rock.

Why would he be able to boost off? he is not dash and you may not perform an a boost or barrel roll if your template would overlap an obstacle. Are we assuming that his edge is hanging off? I am not sure how that would go down in that case.

As far as being able to work the system by not worrying about the "skip the perform action step" since he already was in the perform action step and procced PtL off of an action seems iffy but I wont argue with it since the timing does lead me to believe it is possible.

As long as the boost template doesn't touch the rock, Tycho should be golden.

Edited by WWHSD

If Psycho Tycho Daredevil's into a rock, he loses his perform action step, but he has just performed a Action. Can he still use PTL off that action to boost off the asteroid, or has losing the perform action step ended the action chain?

The question of whether you immediately end the Perform Action step if something makes you skip it when you're already in it is actually irrelevant -- which is good, since I don't believe there is an official answer to it. (There are some situations where Darth Vader would care.)

Edited by Quarrel

The question of whether you immediately end the Perform Action step if something makes you skip it when you're already in it is actually irrelevant -- which is good, since I don't believe there is an official answer to it. (There are some situations where Darth Vader would care.)

Vader barrel-rolling through a Conner Net or using Daredevil to hit a rock while Yorr is in range are the only two I've been able to think of.

FAQ 3.22 page 14 says you can perform free actions while overlapping an obstacle. So as long as the template does not overlap the obstacle he should be able to boost off the roid.

Well that's freaking awesome. Pt that one in the weird rules interaction thread.

Well, if he flies into it using the Daredevil, and not his basic movement, he gets to trigger his PTL.

After the damage roll, mind you. So he can possibly take a crit that prohibits him to use his abilities, lose the PTL or get DERP'ed to 0 hull points.

P.S. Does anyone know why was Daredevil FAQ'd from Red maneuver to White maneuver+Stress?
It could have worked wonders with Outlaw tech, but now it does not.

P.S. Does anyone know why was Daredevil FAQ'd from Red maneuver to White maneuver+Stress?

It could have worked wonders with Outlaw tech, but now it does not.

As I recall, the old wording (with the old rules) menat you didn't get stress from a red maneuver otside of the ordinary maneuver step as the "check stress"-part was not included in executing a maneuver.

P.S. Does anyone know why was Daredevil FAQ'd from Red maneuver to White maneuver+Stress?

It could have worked wonders with Outlaw tech, but now it does not.

As I recall, the old wording (with the old rules) menat you didn't get stress from a red maneuver otside of the ordinary maneuver step as the "check stress"-part was not included in executing a maneuver.

Yeah, that's absolutely correct. You'd execute your maneuver, check stress, then perform an action. Daredevil was a red, which meant nothing as you'd already checked for stress. It was pretty clear that the intention was to have Daredevil cost you by giving you a stress token, and initially it was probably played that you'd pick up a stress token after performing the red maneuver. But someone must have pointed out that this action was after the Check Stress step, hence the errata on the card. The colour of the maneuver for Daredevil is white so that any ability that rewards a green maneuver doesn't end up giving you a double bonus, like R2-D2.

P.S. Does anyone know why was Daredevil FAQ'd from Red maneuver to White maneuver+Stress?

It could have worked wonders with Outlaw tech, but now it does not.

As I recall, the old wording (with the old rules) menat you didn't get stress from a red maneuver otside of the ordinary maneuver step as the "check stress"-part was not included in executing a maneuver.

Yeah, that's absolutely correct. You'd execute your maneuver, check stress, then perform an action. Daredevil was a red, which meant nothing as you'd already checked for stress. It was pretty clear that the intention was to have Daredevil cost you by giving you a stress token, and initially it was probably played that you'd pick up a stress token after performing the red maneuver. But someone must have pointed out that this action was after the Check Stress step, hence the errata on the card. The colour of the maneuver for Daredevil is white so that any ability that rewards a green maneuver doesn't end up giving you a double bonus, like R2-D2.

The point I have is that by far the only upgrade cards that give bonuses for red maneuvers....

Are Jawa outlaw tech.

And the combo is 146% perfect for Bossk.

Otherwise outlaw dude is almost worthless, just letting you have a focus every time.

Maybe they could have let it be red, but add a stress line?

P.S. Does anyone know why was Daredevil FAQ'd from Red maneuver to White maneuver+Stress?

It could have worked wonders with Outlaw tech, but now it does not.

As I recall, the old wording (with the old rules) menat you didn't get stress from a red maneuver otside of the ordinary maneuver step as the "check stress"-part was not included in executing a maneuver.

Yeah, that's absolutely correct. You'd execute your maneuver, check stress, then perform an action. Daredevil was a red, which meant nothing as you'd already checked for stress. It was pretty clear that the intention was to have Daredevil cost you by giving you a stress token, and initially it was probably played that you'd pick up a stress token after performing the red maneuver. But someone must have pointed out that this action was after the Check Stress step, hence the errata on the card. The colour of the maneuver for Daredevil is white so that any ability that rewards a green maneuver doesn't end up giving you a double bonus, like R2-D2.

The point I have is that by far the only upgrade cards that give bonuses for red maneuvers....

Are Jawa outlaw tech.

And the combo is 146% perfect for Bossk.

Otherwise outlaw dude is almost worthless, just letting you have a focus every time.

Maybe they could have let it be red, but add a stress line?

If that's how they would have fixed it at the time, Daredevil would now cost two stress to use.