Rule change poll up.

By Silver leader, in X-Wing

Made a poll at this link

http://vote.pollcode.com/47863368

3 simple answers, yea, nay, meh. I have my own feelings, and you do too. But I'm super curious about the community as a whole.

I disagree with your Meh answer, they don't keep changing the rule. When the TFA set came out the rule was implemented that 1-1 the old damage deck would be phased out. That rule was changed for the first and only time this week.

Just change it to "meh, don't care".

I think it'll end up at around 50/50, if the past 32 threads are any indication.

I disagree with your Meh answer, they don't keep changing the rule. When the TFA set came out the rule was implemented that 1-1 the old damage deck would be phased out. That rule was changed for the first and only time this week.

Just change it to "meh, don't care".

Can't alter,unfortunately.

I think it'll end up at around 50/50, if the past 32 threads are any indication.

Quite possibly. But while there are a lot of vocal parties, I thought it would be nice to hear from those that have an opinion, but don't wanna get involved in the debate.

I disagree with your Meh answer, they don't keep changing the rule. When the TFA set came out the rule was implemented that 1-1 the old damage deck would be phased out. That rule was changed for the first and only time this week.

Just change it to "meh, don't care".

It will be phased out but the question is when. 1-1 could still be the answer but not 1-1-2016. 1-1-2017 might be better.

I think this next year will be the phase out year. Both decks will be legal for casual and store competitive play. The old one will still be used in Epic games and Escalation until a FAQ updates those formats. As for competitive scene yes both will be in effect with the exception of premier events. Next year's regionals much like worlds will require the new damage deck, and just like worlds will hand out a damage deck to all players at these premier events. This allows FFG to distribute more new damage decks for the change over without having to sell them separately. This also give another year for players to either buy a new TFA set or attend a premier event such as regionals for the new deck.

Much ado about nothing.

Next year's regionals much like worlds will require the new damage deck, and just like worlds will hand out a damage deck to all players at these premier events.

This is, of course, speculation as it is neither in the article nor in the Tournament Rules, only Worlds 2015 is mentioned as far as I can see.

Much ado about nothing.

True, but I'm a fan of data. And this is a "clean" way to get it. Anonymous, simple. If arguments arise, that's on those who choose so. I'm more interested in the communities opinion.

True, but I'm a fan of data.

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I'd say that solves that.

To reiterate a previous post, if you're dissatisfied with the rule change, I would encourage you to--politely and briefly--get in touch with FFG's organized play group and let them know.

Just change it to "meh, don't care".

Anyone who doesn't care shouldn't bother voting.

Much ado about nothing.

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Just change it to "meh, don't care".

Anyone who doesn't care shouldn't bother voting.

Why not? It's a valid position where either outcome is okay with you.

It doesn't matter. If you play competitively you have to play by the tournament rules. Period. If all you do is play casual then whatever is agreed upon between you and your opponent is good.

This is the only solution FFG could have come up with, short of giving away damage decks for the next year, to fairly make the new deck legal. FFG has NEVER required the purchase of anything past the original Core to play this game. Glad to see they are keeping it that way.

Why not? It's a valid position where either outcome is okay with you.

But that's just it, if either outcome is okay with you, then the results don't really matter to you. So why vote?

If you don't have a vested interest in seeing one side or the other come out on top, there's no reason to bother participating.

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I'd say that solves that.

Hardly:

1. Only 77 people were involved.

2. Question 3 is nonsence as Dagonet observed.

3. Most importantly, people unhappy with the status quo are much more likely to vote in this sort of poll; inevitably skewing the result.

You have gained no information here.

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I'd say that solves that.

Hardly:

1. Only 77 people were involved.

2. Question 3 is nonsence as Dagonet observed.

3. Most importantly, people unhappy with the status quo are much more likely to vote in this sort of poll; inevitably skewing the result.

You have gained no information here.

Twice as many people have voted now and it's still 70% against the rules change.

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I'd say that solves that.

Hardly:

1. Only 77 people were involved.

2. Question 3 is nonsence as Dagonet observed.

3. Most importantly, people unhappy with the status quo are much more likely to vote in this sort of poll; inevitably skewing the result.

You have gained no information here.

And the polling group is hyperinvested into the game, people travelling days to attend regionals and nationals.

This is the only solution FFG could have come up with, short of giving away damage decks for the next year, to fairly make the new deck legal. FFG has NEVER required the purchase of anything past the original Core to play compete in premier tournaments for this game. Glad to see they are keeping it that way.

I fixed that for you, because the new deck never meant you couldn't play the game still.

You've always been required to purchase more than the core to compete, though, because how else were you going to get a 100-point squad?

Nevermind. Some smart-alec is going to come along and tell me it's always been perfectly legal to bring a 39-point-squad of Luke, R2-D2, Marksmanship, and Proton Torpedoes for a tournament, and they have a point.

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I'd say that solves that.

Hardly:

1. Only 77 people were involved.

2. Question 3 is nonsence as Dagonet observed.

3. Most importantly, people unhappy with the status quo are much more likely to vote in this sort of poll; inevitably skewing the result.

You have gained no information here.

And the polling group is hyperinvested into the game, people travelling days to attend regionals and nationals.

This seems like a claim without supporting evidence. Level/frequency of play and investment in the game was not part of the poll.

This seems like a claim without supporting evidence. Level/frequency of play and investment in the game was not part of the poll.

Look at the people on this forum, they are not your average run of the mill, a game a month with some buddies people.

They are the avid listbuilders, they know the rules inside and out, they not only are aware of a metagame, they help define the worldwide metagame. They are in regular contact with the designers and are basically done playing with a wave before it even hits the boats.

Go poll people in LGS's, you'll get a different result.

Why not? It's a valid position where either outcome is okay with you.

But that's just it, if either outcome is okay with you, then the results don't really matter to you. So why vote?

If you don't have a vested interest in seeing one side or the other come out on top, there's no reason to bother participating.

Of course there is, there is likely a large group who really don't care either way, and that group too is affected by the rules change. Why does their opinion not matter to you? Why are you telling them they shouldn't even vote? FFG has to take them into account as well. It's a polling of opinions, you can't then just say that some opinions have no weight.

It's not a competition where one group wins and the other one loses, that is silly.