But there were small problems. Too many of them. Obi Wan in the OT makes it seem like he met this guy named Anakin, who was a great pilot, and it just kind of sets up a scene where Obi Wan should have met Anakin on his own, and taken it upon himself to train him - but Episode 1 changed all of that, and let to a huge inconsistency.

The two events dont really conflict. We obiwan first met anakin in ep 1 it was after his amazing race that won them 5he parts they needed to fix their ship.

The OT also makes you feel like Yoda trained Obi-Wan in a similar manner that Luke gets trained, with a lot of 1 on 1 training - and the prequels somewhat contradict this and turn Yoda into a Kindergarten teacher.

Thats not really a contradiction, we where never shown what went into normal jedi training in the ot.

And Padme being "fine" with Anakin slaughtering an entire village, including women and children.

The village full of raiders that were going around maming and killing random people. The same raiders that were seen by padme in the previous movie taking shoots at podracers and even took out at least one. Most importantly of all these are the same people that abducted anakins mom and for months tortured her till she died.

Padme may have felt some sympathy for the tuskin raiders after they were killed BUT left alone they would still be killing people, talk8ng some as slaves, and torturing them till they die.

Its not like she didn5 know about how deviant raiders were, she was having a talk with anakins stepdad when he told her about the rescue groups sent out 5o get anakins mom being wiped out by the raiders.

It sucks they had to die but lets face it, they were a threat to anyone on that planet except maybe the hutts.

And one of the worst things, was that you do not, at all, get the idea that Anakin and Obi Wan were "Good friends". The very first time we see Anakin and Obi Wan together as "Master and Student" in episode 2, they are arguing. In fact Anakin complains about Obi Wan virtually non-stop throughout the entirety of 1 and 2.

They show their friend ship in ep 3 as well as the cw.

And there were big ones. Medicloriens was a big one. Anakins sudden and immediate decision to serve the emperor and kill children was another.

How are the Medicloriens a big contradiction? They made clear why Anakin wanted to serve the Emperor. The jedi had the force abilities to keep padme alive... they only teach it to masters and healers, hence why anakin was angry about not being a master, sidious was the onlyone offering to teach him an ability more powerful than the one he could have learned from the jedi, to keep his wife and children alive. He was suffering nightmares nonstop like the ones he had before his mom died. Even a force attuned child is a threat and at the least can be used as a beacon of hope by any future rebel forces.

That being said i dont think Vader killed all the children, just the uncorruptble ones. He probably took the rest to be trained to be agents of the new order and or shadow guard.

I know I'm gonna regret this, but....

Obi-wan didn't get to see Anakin pod race or fly the N-1, he just saw some slave boy from a hutt world. Qui-Gon was the guy who was so impressed with Anakin and how good a pilot he was, and how the force was so strong with him he was the only human able to pilot a pod racer, at nine years old! George threw Qui-gon into the story because he wanted some tragedy for Kenobi and have a noble sacrifice to show how bad Maul was. Sorry, it just doesn't work.

The midichlorians being introduced early in the PT does pay off with one of the few good, menacing scenes in the prequels, the speech about Plageus at the opera. Too bad the midichlorians water-down the mystical parts of the force that Yoda told Luke and the energy field-science explanation from ANH. If he Jedi had physical evidence of organelles/bacteria/whatevers that can be seen in a blood sample then why was the Force and the Jedi treated like a hokey religion? Why couldn't a person just implant or inject lots of midichlorians and then become force sensitive, even temporarily? A better explanation would have been Jedi having a special part of their brain that keeps them in tune with the force like an antenna, or even better, NOT explaining the force any more Han it had already been explained.

Anakin's face/heel turn ALMOST works given Palpatine's subtle dialogue to Ani, but it all comes down to him deciding to attack Mace Windu for a story that some old guy told him. Anakin hated the Sith, yet when told some legend once that just happens to touch on his fears of losing his wife he is totally willing to join them and screw over the people who took him away from a life of slavery and obscurity to become the greatest hero and warrior in the Galaxy. What a jerk.

But there were small problems. Too many of them. Obi Wan in the OT makes it seem like he met this guy named Anakin, who was a great pilot, and it just kind of sets up a scene where Obi Wan should have met Anakin on his own, and taken it upon himself to train him - but Episode 1 changed all of that, and let to a huge inconsistency.

The two events dont really conflict. We obiwan first met anakin in ep 1 it was after his amazing race that won them 5he parts they needed to fix their ship.

The OT also makes you feel like Yoda trained Obi-Wan in a similar manner that Luke gets trained, with a lot of 1 on 1 training - and the prequels somewhat contradict this and turn Yoda into a Kindergarten teacher.

Thats not really a contradiction, we where never shown what went into normal jedi training in the ot.

And Padme being "fine" with Anakin slaughtering an entire village, including women and children.

The village full of raiders that were going around maming and killing random people. The same raiders that were seen by padme in the previous movie taking shoots at podracers and even took out at least one. Most importantly of all these are the same people that abducted anakins mom and for months tortured her till she died.

Padme may have felt some sympathy for the tuskin raiders after they were killed BUT left alone they would still be killing people, talk8ng some as slaves, and torturing them till they die.

Its not like she didn5 know about how deviant raiders were, she was having a talk with anakins stepdad when he told her about the rescue groups sent out 5o get anakins mom being wiped out by the raiders.

It sucks they had to die but lets face it, they were a threat to anyone on that planet except maybe the hutts.

And one of the worst things, was that you do not, at all, get the idea that Anakin and Obi Wan were "Good friends". The very first time we see Anakin and Obi Wan together as "Master and Student" in episode 2, they are arguing. In fact Anakin complains about Obi Wan virtually non-stop throughout the entirety of 1 and 2.

They show their friend ship in ep 3 as well as the cw.

And there were big ones. Medicloriens was a big one. Anakins sudden and immediate decision to serve the emperor and kill children was another.

How are the Medicloriens a big contradiction? They made clear why Anakin wanted to serve the Emperor. The jedi had the force abilities to keep padme alive... they only teach it to masters and healers, hence why anakin was angry about not being a master, sidious was the onlyone offering to teach him an ability more powerful than the one he could have learned from the jedi, to keep his wife and children alive. He was suffering nightmares nonstop like the ones he had before his mom died. Even a force attuned child is a threat and at the least can be used as a beacon of hope by any future rebel forces.

That being said i dont think Vader killed all the children, just the uncorruptble ones. He probably took the rest to be trained to be agents of the new order and or shadow guard.

I know I'm gonna regret this, but....

Obi-wan didn't get to see Anakin pod race or fly the N-1, he just saw some slave boy from a hutt world. Qui-Gon was the guy who was so impressed with Anakin and how good a pilot he was, and how the force was so strong with him he was the only human able to pilot a pod racer, at nine years old! George threw Qui-gon into the story because he wanted some tragedy for Kenobi and have a noble sacrifice to show how bad Maul was. Sorry, it just doesn't work.

The midichlorians being introduced early in the PT does pay off with one of the few good, menacing scenes in the prequels, the speech about Plageus at the opera. Too bad the midichlorians water-down the mystical parts of the force that Yoda told Luke and the energy field-science explanation from ANH. If he Jedi had physical evidence of organelles/bacteria/whatevers that can be seen in a blood sample then why was the Force and the Jedi treated like a hokey religion? Why couldn't a person just implant or inject lots of midichlorians and then become force sensitive, even temporarily? A better explanation would have been Jedi having a special part of their brain that keeps them in tune with the force like an antenna, or even better, NOT explaining the force any more Han it had already been explained.

Anakin's face/heel turn ALMOST works given Palpatine's subtle dialogue to Ani, but it all comes down to him deciding to attack Mace Windu for a story that some old guy told him. Anakin hated the Sith, yet when told some legend once that just happens to touch on his fears of losing his wife he is totally willing to join them and screw over the people who took him away from a life of slavery and obscurity to become the greatest hero and warrior in the Galaxy. What a jerk.

Obi-wan didn't have to see Anakin piloting those craft, the people invovled in those events told Obi-wan about what happend.

They show that the Jedis understanding of the force has some flaws, what Yoda teachs Luke in ep V is something not taught to the Jedi back in the days of the REP. Yoda learned the more correct understanding of the force when he was off by himself with the Ghost of Qui-gon and the sisters, they were Whiles I believe. This happend in the last season of the CW.

Why would know one know about midiclorians...? Probably because the Empire doesn't want the majority to know about force users, nor methods that can be used in a physical that can help IMPs track down force senstive people and ether induct them or excute them. The Sidious effectively had the Jedi as well as the Sith and any other force using tradition purged from the databases used by the citizens of the GE.

People don't / can't just inject themseleves with midiclorians because they are genetically linked to the person that was born with them. Also having a fixed midiclorian count means next to nothing to Sith and other Darkside users, all though having a high count is nice. The Darkside is un-natural even a non-forcesentive person can become a Sith lord if they find the Sith teaching in some sort of information database or are personally taught the sith teaching by a Sith or Darkside ghost.

Anakin had been seeing the Jedi do questionable moral things up to the point he killed Mace. They had been over steping their moral line, they also were starting to turn on themselves. Also Sidious had been good friends with Anakin nearly his whole life, while Mace had been hostile towards Anakin his whole life, hell even when Anakin was a littile boy Mace told him to his face he didn't like him. Psychologically wise Anakin is going to trust the person that has been more friendly to him his whole life as apposed to the person that has been hostile to him his whole life.

Also their was a good chance Mace and a good portion of the Jedi under him would really have taken over the REP. Like I said before, they were step over their bounds, when it came to their role in the universe and their teachings in the force as well. From what I have seen Mace was a Dark Jedi, although not as coniving as Sidious, he had through his teachings, poorly trained alot of the younger jedi, after all, lots of them became Dark Jedi, Emperors hands, Shadow Guards, and Inquistors. No jedi should ever use fighting style form VII. You can't use the Darkside, like Mace did, and not be corrupted by its power.

I doubt the Galaxy under the Jedi would have been as bad as the Empire. And Yoda would have been there to temper Mace. Eventually, if the Jedi did declare martial law and suspend the office of the Chancellor I doubt they would have disbanded the senate (which took Palpatine 19 years to do anyway). No one Jedi would have ruled, and there was a good chance the Jedi would have ceded power back to the Senate and a new chancellor with more restricted powers. Anakin made a very poor decision.

It can also be argued that Palpatine had been clouding the minds and powers of the Jedi for decades even before the battle of Naboo since he was already a Senator and would have had at least some access to the Order by proximity. The Jedi would not have acted as they did (without the full benifit of their connection to the force and the foresight it brought) if Palpatine wasn't using his influence on them and the senate and the Galaxy as a whole.

I'm sure the Jedi would have had to stage a coup as we did see in ROTS, it was the only option they had to quickly deal with the hostile Sith Master that had control over 2 armies and the entire galaxy by default. That was Palpatine's plan, you know, force the Jedi's hand by putting them in a very bad situation and then spring his trap with Order 66 and being seen as justified in doing so.

Also midichlorians not being known to at least the learned residence of the Republic is dubious. We have seen that a simple multifunction handheld device can perform a bloodtest and even wirelessly transmit the results. We know the Jedi contucted these blood tests or had health care professionals conducted tests on their behalf, testing throughout the Republic and across many species. We know of some species that live for many centuries and have had force sensitive individuals on the council during the Clone Wars. Knowledge of the Jedi and their midichlorian blood test must have been widespread.

With only 10,000 Jedi serving the republic most star systems wouldn't even be visited by Jedi regularly, with most contact being with the said blood test. Most people would know of the Jedi and their historical actions but few would have seen any or their use of the force...until the Clone Wars, where they were famously fighting in the frontline all across the Galaxy and even into the Outer Rim during the sieges. There must have been a huge stigma against the Jedi when it was known they had tried to assassinate the Emperor in a failed coup.

This might explain the view of the Jedi using the force as 'simple tricks and nonsense' if they were so easily wiped out by mere clones. With the clones 'retiring' after the war, millions of witnesses to the Jedi's powers would have had to lie about what they saw...but suddenly being given an order that brands your commanders as traitors to be executed will give any clone the incentive to deny the Jedi and the Force. But...it's all just too convenient. At Least Tarkin had a grudging respect of the Force and the Jedi and treated them as real historical facts, though forever in the past.

Of course the Sequels being over 50 years after the Clone Wars would explain why the Jedi would be but stories to young humans in the outer rim. Older aliens may have a different perspective on history though.

What about this for an alternative plotline for the prequels?

--At the start of the first film, the galaxy is on the brink of the Clone Wars.

--The crawl explains that the elites of an increasing number of systems in the wild and unruly outer rim have regressively turned to cloning as a source of slave labour. As the guardians of freedom and justice, the Jedi are avowedly hostile to this practice and determined to stamp it out.

--Jedi Knight Obi Wan arrives on Tattoine on a Jedi mission to put an end to a cloning operation in which a band of vicious (Trandoshan?) bounty hunters have been hired by the cloners to kidnap from the local population suitably impressive cloning candidates. Obi Wan brings with him in support a small squad of peacekeeping soldiers from the Republic's woefully inadequate military peacekeeping force - space marines, or whatever you want to call them.

--The bounty hunters easily kill all Obi Wan's men in the course of the operation. Obi Wan is badly wounded and only finally succeeds in defeating all the bounty hunters with the unexpected intervention and assistance of a young local man called Anakin Skywalker. Reluctant to surrender, the bounty hunters' leader (the last survivor) is goaded into going for his weapon by the boy, who kills him without the slightest hesitation.

--As Obi Wan recovers from his wounds at the Skywalker moisture farm, he learns that the newly minted Separatist Confederacy (of pro-cloning systems) has declared its independence from the Republic and developed an army of superhuman clone warriors, with which it is aggressively attacking pro-Republic systems, to force the Republic to accept its independence. Billions are dying in these horrifying apocalyptic attacks. Begun, the Clone Wars have.

--As he recovers, Obi Wan's suspicions that Skywalker is force sensitive are confirmed. He tries to recruit Anakin as an apprentice, stressing how hard-pressed the Jedi are across the galaxy, and how terrible the Separatist threat is. Against the strong resistance of the Skywalker family, Anakin agrees to come along on what his brother (Lars) contemptuously dismisses as a "damned-fool idealistic crusade".

--In the course of their various combat missions during the Clone Wars (most of Ep 2), Anakin proves himself to be an increasingly able warrior and pilot. But as Obi Wan tries to train his increasingly headstrong apprentice in the subtler arts of the Force, Anakin's moral compass appears worryingly awry. Anakin repeatedly crosses the line, arguing that ultimate victory justifies collateral damage - incl. taking no prisoners (they're only clones, right? Not proper beings, no?) and accepting heavy losses among his dwindling numbers of Republic peacekeeping soldiers and, indeed, civilians. The end justifies the means!!

--Much as in the prequels, as Anakin rises through the ranks of the Jedi order he develops a friendship with an ambitious Senator Palpatine, who plots his way to becoming Chancellor Palpatine by ruthlessly exposing the previous leadership's inability to win the war. Anakin and Palpatine secretly plot to develop illegal cloning facilities for the Republic on the volcano planet Mustafar, to produce a Clone army that could be matched against the Separatists' own clones - fighting fire with fire, as it were!!

--Anakin also embarks on an illicit relationship with a pretty young senator called Padme Organa. She, however, becomes increasingly disturbed by Anakin's ruthlessness, conceals her pregnancy from him, and secretly gives birth to a twin girl and boy.

--The trilogy's denouement, Ep 3, ends much like in Revenge of the Sith. Anakin is by now seriously at odds with the Jedi Council, and when they try to reign him in Palpatine reveals his true identity as a SIth Lord and claims (perhaps with justification?) that the Jedi and Republic will lose the war against the Separatists, because they haven't the stomach for what really needs to be done. Drunk on the new powers that Palpatine gives him, Anakin joins Palpatine in a coup to convert Republic to Empire.

--In a final battle the Empire's secret cloning facility on Mustafar is destroyed (meaning Palpatine must henceforth resort to conscription to recruit his Imperial Army), and in an epic duel with Obi Wan, Vader is badly injured. But Yoda and Obi Wan are the only survivors of the Jedi Order, and must fly into exile. Sympathetic senators incl. Mon Mothma organise a nascent rebellion against the Empire. Vader, recovering from his terrible injuries, switches easily from crushing Separatists to crushing Rebels, with Palpatine bolstering his conviction that this is the only route to "peace".

--Stopping over at Alderaan on his way to Dagobah, Yoda convinces Padme Organa that she must surrender Baby Luke, as keeping two eggs in the same basket is too dangerous in case Lord Vader discovers their existence, and because Luke must be trained as a Jedi when he enters adolescence - it will be his destiny to overturn Palpatine and restore the Republic. Yoda gives Luke to Obi Wan, who remains totally ignorant of the existence of Leia and who therefore assumes "that boy is our last hope". Obi Wan takes Luke to Tattoine, where Luke's Uncle Lars and Aunt Beru will bring him up. Organa never forgives herself for surrendering her son; she is thus the "sad" mother who Leia remembers in RotJ.

Works for me. A lot of Lucas's prequels story resonates well with the OT, but a lot just doesn't. Here, there are fewer glaring inconsistencies with the OT. The Clone Wars now make much more sense, as a conflict against and between clone armies.