I have often thought about the prequels, and how I initially felt when watching them. The truth is, I enjoyed myself while going to the theater to see them opening night. There was hype, and by Episode 3, the hype was more like "Boy I hope this one is FINALLY the one that get's it right". Each time I was moderately satisfied, as were many, but I think it's the reflection of the film that is where our frustration really developed.

I just want to say that there ARE plenty of good things about the prequels. Liam Neesan for example. In fact, nearly all of Episode 1, up until Jar Jar hit the screen, was amazingly good. But there were small problems. Too many of them. Obi Wan in the OT makes it seem like he met this guy named Anakin, who was a great pilot, and it just kind of sets up a scene where Obi Wan should have met Anakin on his own, and taken it upon himself to train him - but Episode 1 changed all of that, and let to a huge inconsistency. The OT also makes you feel like Yoda trained Obi-Wan in a similar manner that Luke gets trained, with a lot of 1 on 1 training - and the prequels somewhat contradict this and turn Yoda into a Kindergarten teacher. And Padme being "fine" with Anakin slaughtering an entire village, including women and children. And one of the worst things, was that you do not, at all, get the idea that Anakin and Obi Wan were "Good friends". The very first time we see Anakin and Obi Wan together as "Master and Student" in episode 2, they are arguing. In fact Anakin complains about Obi Wan virtually non-stop throughout the entirety of 1 and 2.

And there were big ones. Medicloriens was a big one. Anakins sudden and immediate decision to serve the emperor and kill children was another.

I think if Disney were to re-do this entire prequel trilogy, it could be great. they'd have to retcon a ton of stuff. But man - I'd love to see a fresh take that makes sense.

Just let them fade away.

And one of the worst things, was that you do not, at all, get the idea that Anakin and Obi Wan were "Good friends". In fact Anakin complains about Obi Wan virtually non-stop throughout the entirety of 1 and 2.

I attribute that to a bad script, Hayden, and the fact that they wanted to make Anakin into angst ridden whiny punk. I enjoyed the prequels to a point, but my god Anakin especially in Attack of the cones was such a whiny b*** I just about lost it.

I mean if anything he should of turned to the emo side of the force...

Medicloriens was a big one.

That never bothered me. I never took it as a way to actually explain the force, because they were not what made the force, they were simply how people connected to it. But at least they had the good sense to drop them from the other movies.

Anakins sudden and immediate decision to serve the emperor and kill children was another.

That was IMO due to there not being enough film, if you include the Clone Wars show, there's plenty of reason why he did what he did, and it's not nearly so jarring.

But even then I always took that as a in for a penny, in for a pound, or 'If I'm going to go, I'm going to go big!' type of thing. He had at that point decided that the dark side was his only chance to keep Padme alive, and he wasn't going to try and ride the line between light and dark, so he went full bore dark side. Killing the children was just what a Sith does, so that's what he'll do.

It was jarring and sudden but it makes sense if you look at it like that IMO at least.

They could take a cue from the trailer where Han seems to be addressing that there are rumors as the recent history of the galaxy. Setup a framing device where somebody is questioning how Anakin became Darth Vader and a wise sage, maybe Luke, can say, that was the story, from a certain point of view - and then retell it properly this time. I.E. - the prequels were the Empire's version of events

It would nice. But I think the effort and dollars could be spent better elsewhere.

One of the big differences between the OT and the prequels is the depth of the universe. In the OT we get a glimpse of other elements and our own imagibation fills the gaps. What is force? Who is bounty hunter Hanran into at Ord Mandell, what Han and lando's history, etc.

We shape the universe yo our own design, we're invested in it.

The EU and prequels break that down. They define every minute detail, taking away our own constructs. No imagination is required, there is no personal or emotional investment/connection

YES!

I have often thought about the prequels, and how I initially felt when watching them. The truth is, I enjoyed myself while going to the theater to see them opening night. There was hype, and by Episode 3, the hype was more like "Boy I hope this one is FINALLY the one that get's it right". Each time I was moderately satisfied, as were many, but I think it's the reflection of the film that is where our frustration really developed.

I just want to say that there ARE plenty of good things about the prequels. Liam Neesan for example. In fact, nearly all of Episode 1, up until Jar Jar hit the screen, was amazingly good. But there were small problems. Too many of them. Obi Wan in the OT makes it seem like he met this guy named Anakin, who was a great pilot, and it just kind of sets up a scene where Obi Wan should have met Anakin on his own, and taken it upon himself to train him - but Episode 1 changed all of that, and let to a huge inconsistency. The OT also makes you feel like Yoda trained Obi-Wan in a similar manner that Luke gets trained, with a lot of 1 on 1 training - and the prequels somewhat contradict this and turn Yoda into a Kindergarten teacher. And Padme being "fine" with Anakin slaughtering an entire village, including women and children. And one of the worst things, was that you do not, at all, get the idea that Anakin and Obi Wan were "Good friends". The very first time we see Anakin and Obi Wan together as "Master and Student" in episode 2, they are arguing. In fact Anakin complains about Obi Wan virtually non-stop throughout the entirety of 1 and 2.

And there were big ones. Medicloriens was a big one. Anakins sudden and immediate decision to serve the emperor and kill children was another.

I think if Disney were to re-do this entire prequel trilogy, it could be great. they'd have to retcon a ton of stuff. But man - I'd love to see a fresh take that makes sense.

Watch Plinkett's reviews, it's pretty obvious where things went wrong.

The biggest things, in my opinion (obviously) are:

The romance and chemistry (or lack thereof) for Anakin and Padme

The seduction of Anakin to the Darkside instead of the sudden face/heel turn

Kenobi's and Anakin's relationship

You know, the whole point of the trilogy! I don't care about jar jar or roger roger or midi midi, I just want the story to actually be there instead of second to the CGI.

No.

There is much better ways for them to go than to rehash a somewhat poorly received bunch of movies. New stuff, not retreads.

And dear god, no one has to watch any of the **** youtube "reviews" to have their own opinion on the movies.

I wouldn't be suprised to see more clone wars era content come out of Disney, but they'll stop short of re-writing the prequels.

It could be tv, cartoon or stand alone files (like rogue one).

The cartoons do add a lot more depth to the prequels, like in the TCW show when padme tells Anakin that they shouldn't see each other any more. His force choking padme in episode 3 is less out of character once you know he was a bad husband with a violent temper.

His child killing spree makes a bit more sense once you've watched Ezra's brush with the dark side in rebels. Kanan explains that there is a dark side to the force and when you use the force in anger you open yourself up to it, when the dark side takes control it forces you to do unspeakable things. Suddenly the child killing makes a bit more sense, it wasn't a case of Anakin getting power and thinking "I've always wanted to kill some children and now I can" it was more about the emperor tricking Anakin into letting the dark side in and it making him do the evil deeds.

After watching the entirety of The Clone Wars over the last couple of month I think I'd be happiest if they remade the prequel films as animations. They could then fill them out properly with extra detail etc.

I honestly think if they did that I could happily forget about the film versions whilst retaining the stories.

Yes make the Lucas abominations disappear.

Yeah, why not? It's not like they can make them worse .

Should Disney remake the Original trilogy?

Ill take that as a NO then.

Ok okay! It was a retorical question! sheesh!

Yes make the Lucas abominations disappear.

Now this is the thing I just don't get. Why is there all this hate on George Lucas? If it wasn't for him, we wouldn't be playing X-wing to start with. OK, he took a wrong turn with Ep1, by trying to make it more family friendly, thus killing the drama. But it was his original story that he was trying to tell. I can understand the hate on the prequels, but I can't understand the hate on the guy that gave us the OT.

If there was the remote possibility to remake any of the movies, then I would like to think they should make them with a more dramatic feel, and not the "family friendly" spin that they inevitably ended up with. I look at it this way: when we first saw the OT, most of us were kids at the time. We all watched these stories unfold with that wonderful youthful ignorance. They were innovative for their special effects at the time and no one had seen anything like it before. It was a sense of awe and amazement that you only get when you're a kid. And then 16-17 years later, here's the start of the epic story, but guess what? - we're all adults watching it this time around, and with a completely different mindset this time. And most of the die-hard fans have now immersed themselves deeply in Star Wars lore, that their expectations are very high.

Little surprise that the new movie was aimed specifically at a young audience, and was disappointing to the serious Star Wars fans. I wasn't a serious fan by any stretch. Over the years I bought and built half a dozen Star Wars kitsets, and read the novels of the OT and maybe three others. But I definitely wasn't into any of the EU otherwise. So when the prequels came out, I watched them and enjoyed them for the entertainment value that they were. No expectations, no pre-conceptions. I went in with only the questions that I had after watching Ep6.

George Lucas gave us an epic space opera, which is exactly what he set out to do. Were there things that could've been left out? Yes. Were there things that should've been left out? Definitely. Is JJ Abrams going to do a better job with Ep7. I don't know, but I hope he doesn't screw it up, because I'm pretty unimpressed with his heavy-handed take on Star Trek. His reliance on big special effects, and " don't worry too much about the storyline " attitude could be the death of a franchise. And is Disney the best home for the franchise? I don't think so. Their track record of providing G-rated family entertainment may see our beloved franchise aimed at younger audiences again, and any sense of real drama will be scarce. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

But please don't hate on George Lucas just because a couple of his "babies" grew into annoying pains in the ass. He did give us three movies that made big fans of us all.

Young Lucas gave us the universe, then he turned to the dark side growing more wretched and evil each time he made an unnecessary change.

Even then his wife saved the script and the editor saved the first film.

The prequels are terrible not just as star wars films but as films in general, he wrote them, he directed them he had a major hand in most aspects and its 100% fair to blame him for mess they were.

Hitler used to paint pictures and was always kind to dogs should we just ignore what he did in later life? Of course not you look at all the things a person has done to judge them.

Lucas showed his spite when the prequels were rejected he changed the ending of Jedi ramming the prequels where no one wanted them, he pushed prequel products at the expense of OT stuff.

And when all we wanted was an original high definition version of the OT he refused.

He earnt the communities displeasure, he threw away our good will.

We like this George Lucas:

Not this George Lucas:

In a way he IS Anakin/Vader...

George was a great movie maker, but he was murdered by an aprentice of mine, Darth Lucas.

Rehashing the prequels will do more harm than good, in my opinion. The Clone Wars series was excellent, but it built upon the current prequels. If you change them too much, you get even more inconsistencies. But if you keep the core of the stories and just get new actors, dialog, etc., then I'm not sure it's even worth doing.

For my part, I think the Prequels are fine. I like them just the way they are and when I want to watch a Star Wars movie, it's a pretty even split between choosing an OT episode and a PT episode.

They should just bury all evidence of them in a landfill site in Mexico.

Put them in a hole, then throw away the hole.

No.

Fans should (attempt) to remake the prequels. They all seem to think they know better how it should have been done.

There was a lot I didn't like about the prequels, and I'm not going to go over it again, but what is done is done. We're stuck with them now.

Perhaps in a decade or two, when all excitement wears off, someone will make a reboot of the whole saga starting at Episode One. Then someone else will reboot the reboot before it is rebooted by another.....

.....DC and Marvel movies complaint there.

No.

Fans should (attempt) to remake the prequels. They all seem to think they know better how it should have been done.

There was a lot I didn't like about the prequels, and I'm not going to go over it again, but what is done is done. We're stuck with them now.

Perhaps in a decade or two, when all excitement wears off, someone will make a reboot of the whole saga starting at Episode One. Then someone else will reboot the reboot before it is rebooted by another.....

.....DC and Marvel movies complaint there.

Sony rebooted Spiderman, Fox rebooted fantastic four marvel hasn't rebooted anything so far closest they came was changing from ed Norton to mark ruffelo.

No.

There is much better ways for them to go than to rehash a somewhat poorly received bunch of movies. New stuff, not retreads.

And dear god, no one has to watch any of the **** youtube "reviews" to have their own opinion on the movies.

It's not that we need someone else to bash a movie so that we can mindlessly agree with them - it's more about the fact that a lot of the "Good" Youtube takes on the prequels point out a lot of things that the general viewer may have missed. Some of them also have AMAZING ideas of how the prequels could have been awesome. Great stuff.

Should Disney remake the Original trilogy?

Ill take that as a NO then.

Ok okay! It was a retorical question! sheesh!

Actually I say yes. But not now. Eventually. Before I die.

I'd like to see a more modern re-telling of Star Wars. I'd be cool with either a scene for scene re-creation with very little "change" (Maybe just some minor fixes, like put Yub Nub back in, or have more rebel troopers get shot by stormtroopers, to make the Stormtroopers appear less inept -

Or perhaps do an alternate universe re-telling. Suppose Leia went to Tatooine, and Luke went to Alderaan. Leia gets trained as a Jedi - what implications would that have? How would the Han Solo relationship differ? Would Luke have told Tarkin about the Yavin 4 base?

No.

Fans should (attempt) to remake the prequels. They all seem to think they know better how it should have been done.

There was a lot I didn't like about the prequels, and I'm not going to go over it again, but what is done is done. We're stuck with them now.

Perhaps in a decade or two, when all excitement wears off, someone will make a reboot of the whole saga starting at Episode One. Then someone else will reboot the reboot before it is rebooted by another.....

.....DC and Marvel movies complaint there.

Sony rebooted Spiderman, Fox rebooted fantastic four marvel hasn't rebooted anything so far closest they came was changing from ed Norton to mark ruffelo.

I've not read the comics, but I'm sure they've not been rebooted.

But the movies.

These are just my opinions and I don't expect others to agree.

I much prefer The Amazing Spiderman over the other Spiderman movies.

Christian Bale is the best Batman yet. Michael Keaton was second best. Val Kilmer and George Clooney were just..... NO!

X-Men have gotten the time travelling reboot. But X-Men First Class was the best of the movies.

I didn't even bother watching Fantastic Four. But I didn't enjoy the other two much anyway.

Superman? Nobody can replace Christopher Reeves. But the reboot was good. Not great, but I wasn't disappointed.

So the reboots haven't been bad, and in the case of Spiderman and Batman were the best yet, but it gets irritating after a while. Especially when they hit rewind to the origins again.

No.

There is much better ways for them to go than to rehash a somewhat poorly received bunch of movies. New stuff, not retreads.

And dear god, no one has to watch any of the **** youtube "reviews" to have their own opinion on the movies.

It's not that we need someone else to bash a movie so that we can mindlessly agree with them - it's more about the fact that a lot of the "Good" Youtube takes on the prequels point out a lot of things that the general viewer may have missed. Some of them also have AMAZING ideas of how the prequels could have been awesome. Great stuff.

Which is essentially saying that someone's opinion on a movie is wrong. Which is elitist nonsense. I don't need to be told how "wrong" I am for liking the prequels as they are.

Actually, while sounding sometimes pretty smug - the Plinkett reviews treat the Prequels from an objective movie makers point of view. Even giving examples for how they could have been done better.

Lots of their criticism is pretty much spot on. It's up to the grown up and self concsious viewer if he agrees with it or not.

I overall do with most of it...!

No.

There is much better ways for them to go than to rehash a somewhat poorly received bunch of movies. New stuff, not retreads.

And dear god, no one has to watch any of the **** youtube "reviews" to have their own opinion on the movies.

It's not that we need someone else to bash a movie so that we can mindlessly agree with them - it's more about the fact that a lot of the "Good" Youtube takes on the prequels point out a lot of things that the general viewer may have missed. Some of them also have AMAZING ideas of how the prequels could have been awesome. Great stuff.

Which is essentially saying that someone's opinion on a movie is wrong. Which is elitist nonsense. I don't need to be told how "wrong" I am for liking the prequels as they are.

Clearly you do